It is astounding how little of the Creation we can possibly comprehend while veiled here. Yet we are often attracted to giving it a go. 
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It still amuses me how much Jesus sounded like a Daoist or Zennist, philosophies concerned with reacquiring a “child’s vision” or a “child’s spontaneity / naturalness”, losing conventional thinking.
A child is afterall a “recent” incarnation of God…closer to the source.
It’s also amusing how close our meaning of the expression “child’s play” is to the meaning of “wu-wei”, without us realising it…because it’s a figure of speech no-one gives any consideration to.
That’s what “faith” is to me, something very similar to a child’s essence and a child’s view.
Alan Watts’ whole message in a nutshell:
The Song Of The Children - G.K. Chesterton
Hello Passer-by that is a temporary permanent resident, lol, I jest,
This post has been intriguing and the talk of the one named Jehoshua really brought my attention to previous observations I have made about the LDS church.
First and foremost, I am not promoting a religious group or a specific religion. This is just an opinion being shared about my own experience.
Secondly, if you feel so inclined, the LDS church has some interesting information that could contribute to this topic in some ways.
Lastly, the reason that I am bringing this up is because there was a revelation and connection I made recently.
In the past, I made a quick judgment about the LDS church and claimed that they are “racist” because of this…
2 Nephi 5:21-25
21 And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.
22 And thus saith the Lord God: I will cause that they shall be loathsome unto thy people, save they shall repent of their iniquities.
23 And cursed shall be the seed of him that mixeth with their seed; for they shall be cursed even with the same cursing. And the Lord spake it, and it was done.
24 And because of their cursing which was upon them they did become an idle people, full of mischief and subtlety, and did seek in the wilderness for beasts of prey.
25 And the Lord God said unto me: They shall be a scourge unto thy seed, to stir them up in remembrance of me; and inasmuch as they will not remember me, and hearken unto my words, they shall scourge them even unto destruction.
So at first I was like… “Oh this cult is racist…”
But then when I looked into the l/l research archive under the search “Africans”
Session June 23, 2021 came up with this.
The origin within the African nations of these particular entities is that which is beyond most ability of any current religious or mystical system of experience or perception to be truly able to understand. There are many sources of third-density races and cultures beyond the third-density Earth which have provided these cultures and races an opportunity to try, once again, to move into the harvest into the fourth density of love and understanding. We find that there are, within many such cultures and races, such as the black cultures of the African nations, the previous experience of having found their own experience upon a third-density planet that did not make the graduation because of the lack of ability to see the Creator in all other entities. Thus, there was the determination upon the part of these entities to attempt to make reparations for their inability to see the One in all upon their own third-density planets. It is interesting and synchronistic, shall we say, that the reparations that were seen as necessary within this third-density planet called Terra or Earth, that the entities would need to experience the same type of difficulties that they had experienced and been responsible for amongst themselves upon their original third-density planet.
Then I was like… 
hmmm… interesting… is this cult also racist?
I left it alone for some time, but coincidently, my education/career path does cross over into anthropology, sociology, society study, geopolitics, etc.
Looking at the culture, the behavioral analysis of Africans, African-Americans, etc.
It is disproportionately more violent, with many more problems compared to other races.
e.g. A lot of African nation faces some of the most brutal violence among each other. Warlords, dictators, etc. etc. The movie “Beasts of No Nation” comes to mind as I am typing this.
Then I looked at the statistical data with African Americans. Crimes, outbreaks of violence, looting, and gang activities are also all weighted heavily on their race.
recent examples can be taken from incidents in Portland, Oregon … San Francisco, California… And places that defunded law enforcement/ crime punishment.
At this point, I am thinking to myself…
Okay, so the Book of Mormon, the l/l research folks… Maybe they are not trying to be racist, but are sharing something that could be factual.
Long story short, after realizing that maybe I could be wrong for calling everybody racist, I should look into it more and see what is really in there.
To my surprise, there is some interesting stuff about Jehoshua in the Book of Mormons and their teachings.
Their first prophet, Joseph Smith, was originally a Freemason.
The ritual practice of endowment in the LDS church. (The veil, etc.)
Amongst many other things,
But without infringing your freewill and telling you where to look in the Book of Mormon or the LDS church.
I feel you should see what is there, again, if you feel so inclined.
At least for me, what I found in my seeking/curiosity definitely illuminated some understanding.
Much light
p.s. Sorry for the long-winded backstory that essentially reaches the point of telling you to check out the Mormons.
There are people out there who are really against them, and I was on the fence about it in the past, but now… I hold my tongue and let the lips of wisdom speak.
Much, much light
Such is the reason why I often use the metaphor of “VR Realm” or “RPG Games” for this 3rd density incarnation experience.
You’re referencing to this session:
Actually discussing about the phenomenon of ‘enslavement of african culture in america’.
The main thing about ‘entity’s incarnational experience’ is that the entity are not ‘stuck’ or ‘caged’ within a specific human race or even specific planetary being for that matter.
An Angolan today can experience as a Chinese in his next incarnation, an Irish can experience as Brazilians, an American can experience as a Nigerian and so on.
For this particular topic, an unnamed alien on an unnamed 3rd planet, experiencing as African American entities on earth.
The excerpt:
And now, this cycle has come full turn, shall we say, so that the great amount of suffering in slavery that the African American entities have experienced within this country for the last 400 years is that which now is in motion to seek reparations for their own difficulties here, which have been much like that which they experienced and created, shall we say, upon their own third-density planet.
It’s probable that in their own unnamed third density planet the entities were playing the opposite role, as an enslaver. Here they’re experiencing as the ‘enslaved’, in order to balanced out their karma.
The same mechanism is applicable for the “white/black/yellow/red what have you… enslaver” on earth, they will have an opportunity to also balanced out their karma, and it can also be on other 3rd density planet outside of earth where their skin color will be (perhaps) be blue, green or orange…
Back to Jesus topics, the past incarnational experience of the entity known as Jesus was not on earth and definitely not as “Jew”. Yet his incarnation on earth as “Jew” born in Roman province of Galilee around 2000 years ago was seen as the ‘most suitable context’ for the entity’s further learning and serving experience.
There’s a session with Quo where the questioner asked “Where is Jesus now?”, Quo refused to spill out the exact incarnational location of Jesus, but give out a statement that “he is now not serving / incarnating on earth as the entity is progressing on 5th density lessons elsewhere”.
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In a channelling by Terry Brown speaking for RaAn, a part, so to speak, of the smc Ra, in 2021 said that Yeshua/ Jesus doesn’t express a need to be named anything in particular, since he was ’ just one’ of the sons of God, which Jesus loved and concurred on this name choice being acceptable, ha- so the beings there with him in 6th density call him Bob, lol!
I read the Urantia book and felt little if any true resonance with the material. Along with my daily readings of LoO and Confederation material, I’m also reading James Redfields’ The Secret of Shambhala, and am cognizing huge paralells to Ra’s and other Confederation material, as was also the case with his The Celestine Prophecy book.
Very strong philosophical similarities.
The difference is that you cannot feel physical pain in video games, and you have the exit option in video games that doesn’t cause tremendous trauma.
You want to quit in real life? suicide is the only way… Which is physically painful, and emotionally painful to you and those around you.
This comparison is a bit pale when you see it from a “gamer” perspective.
Alan Watts suffers from alcoholism, it was a vice that he used to make god’s creation “fun.”
All that aside, I do understand the spiritual/philosophical meaning behind not taking it seriously because I have experienced an NDE in my life, and when I was on the other side, I realized that you do “wake up” from a dream.
And like a dream, it quickly fades and you move on to the next thing. So it’s not that serious in that sense.
But I think you have enough common sense to keep your mouth shut with that video game metaphor if you were sitting across from someone who has PTSD from being a victim of child sex trafficking.
Hopefully, you wouldn’t tell that person… “hey, its just VR game, chill.”
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The backstory I was sharing from my opinion when talking about blacks in Africa and in the US has nothing to do with the rainbow-colored people analogy you gave.
I understand you are trying to say that entities can incarnate as any race to carry out their lessons.
That wasn’t what I was trying to say.
Never did I say blacks were “stuck” or caged in a specific human race or “planets”
All I said was that both the Mormon scripture and l/l research channelers explained those who are incarnated as blacks on this planet have a history on other planets (AND their home planet) for not seeing the creator in all, and failed to graduate into 4th density.
I compared that with psychosocial data of blacks around the world and in America. and you can see the discrepancy in the crime rate amongst blacks and the culture surrounding their community.
This is the same for any race on this planet,
Here is another channeled material from Latwii from this session.
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Where would the Orientals have come from?
New SpeakerLatwii
I am Latwii. This instrument has this information in her conscious mind, however we will also speak to the subject. These entities are from a place which you would call Deneb.
May we answer you further, my brother?
Different race does have the “flavor” and have some connection to the origin of where they came from, incarnating into this planet.
But, of course, that is not set in stone and an entity can definitely be interracially incarnate.
Unfortunate (or perhaps fortunate) - ly yes, the sense of ‘touch’ cannot yet be simulated using today’s technology.
As for ‘temporary exit’ from the game (pause), in 3rd density VR there are such feature, it’s commonly called as “Sleep”.
Option for permanent exit without suicide/self harm also exist, Ra explained it using the term “walk in”, another entity will logged in to your avatar replacing you while inheriting all of the conscious memory up to that point.
Citing a historical example of “Abraham Lincoln” as among those who has experienced ‘walk in’.
This is similar to handing out the ‘controller’ to another player in the VR game.
Another option is something which the Hindus/Buddhist named as “Samadhi”.
The same mechanism, posting a request that “I want to exit this world in the most positive and joyful manner as possible”. Some example might be Sadhguru’s wife Vijayakumari and of course Siddhartha.
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Yes, true, the sessions that talk about this here.
and here
You have asked this day concerning the entity known to you as Jesus of Nazareth, what he is doing now and what this entity may continue to symbolize and suggest to those who seek the truth. At this level of contact, that is, the light trance of what this instrument calls conscious channeling, we do not wish to attempt to indicate, using this instrument, precisely what planetary sphere or what precise work this particular entity is now doing. We would, however, express our feeling that this entity was one of a social memory complex that was at a stage of graduation to fifth density. This entity and the social memory complex of which it was a part had in common a full consciousness of love and compassion. A love that creates. A love that destroys. A love that transforms. A love that is all that there is. This love was not informed or balanced with wisdom. This state of love of this social memory complex thusly was, if not absolutely perfect, at a very high level of near perfection. And as such, this group was exquisitely poised at the appropriate nexus when the opportunity came for incarnation using Christ consciousness within the Earth plane in third density.
But this entity is of 5th density (now) and was 4th (before)
The higher you go, to more freedom you get to choose.
This is different from what I was talking about before with the Africans topic. You are comparing an entity from 4th (Jesus) with those who are 3rd density, and have failed many times to graduate to 4.
two different things.
Lastly,
Not sure why you hyperfocus on my backstory was purely an opinion of the previous comment.
The main gist of that comment was me recommending to Passer -by to check out the book of Mormon on the topic of Jesus. Wasn’t responding to ya Quid.
Thanks for the runaround though
All these examples are in the context of higher-density beings choosing their path here.
Abraham’s case was extremely rare, and the others have completed all they need to do here as a positive entity.
All these special cases pale in comparison to the majority of 3rd density beings who are going about their lessons here.
Hence, it is not applicable to everyone.
Again, you can try to tell a teenage girl with a history of parental abuse/rape and marking on both her wrists the analogy you just told me… And see where that goes…
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I don’t view individual members of a race in a monolithic fashion. As if Hitler and Albert Schweitzer are the same (both German), as if Rasputin and Leo Tolstoy are the same (both Russian), as if Dai Li and Liu Xiaobo are the same (both Chinese), as if Idi Amin and Nelson Mandela are the same (both “African”), as if Maya Angelou and Robert Mugabe are the same (both “African”) as if Jeffrey Epstein and Albert Einsten are the same (both Jewish)…
And I find the channeling quoted above rather comical, not to mention hypocritical, as if that description doesn’t apply to the majority of entities on planet earth, of all races.
In full disclosure, I’m South African, but not “African”, I’m a descendant of those “evil” colonisers back in the day, so race has been at the forefront of my life experience.
I am perplexed how anyone with a good (or even mediocre) grasp on the history (and current events) of our planet can view Africans as “more violent” than other races, with “more problems”…
You should come to Africa friend, it might be an eye-opener.
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Thank you for sharing your heritage and being strongly identified with them.
I have no intention to lean on the biased perspective of one race, or any race.
What was commented on in an earlier post came from a data set.
In this data provided, the number of whites is 4,729,290 and blacks are 1,815,144
and the Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter arrests are 3,650 for whites and 4,078 for blacks.
(I am not intentionally leaving out other races’ arrests, it is just to keep the comparison concise)
If this is about race and judgment, I would like to say that the beginning of my comments was geared toward seeing racism in theological and spiritual texts. Which is something I was strongly against.
In short, and simply put.
I am for black folks, for Africans, and for any beings, any race.
When I saw the texts in the Book of Mormon saying that “dark skin” was cursed by god, I immediately felt offended and thought of them as racist.
Then when I looked at the l/l channeling archive, and just like you have mentioned…
I felt the same…
So we are on the same page when seeing these things as not a “kind” judgment towards other-selves.
But when examining the dataset, the numbers are what I meant by “disproportionate.”
it definitely was, but I am not tied to a strong sense of identity or personally seeing it in different colors.
If words cannot express what I am trying to say.
Perhaps this might,
As I have mentioned before, I jumped the gun on thinking Mormons and perhaps even l/l research was “racist.”
After giving it some time, I understood it in a more harmonious way. This is something I have to leave for other-selves to discover on their own.
I do apologize if it stirred up deep emotion.
If you would like Passer-by, we can discuss this further in a PM.
It’s available for any/all entities actually.
Walk In: Available for all, the difficulty is in “proving it objectively” if one is oriented to do as such. Given the “walk-in-ers” or “the substitute” will also be “veiled”, thus no recollection of it’s past lives and definitely not consciously aware that it is actually a ‘walk-in’. The only characteristic perceivable by it’s surrounding is one will notice a change in character, hobbies/interest or like/dislike.
Samadhi: Definitely available for any entities, one just need to request it and the “game admin” will arrange the events accordingly. Positive entity works based on upon request.
I tend to agree…
Africa is a very wide geographical area, with over more than 1000 distinct languages and traditions. Ancient Egypt where Ra had incarnational experience is Africa, Jesus studied in Egypt as part of his seeking journey, The legendary Atlantis also covered part of Africa, The rich kingdom of Sheba (mentioned in Solomon’s biblical story) is Africa and the richest person in history was also from Africa (Mansa Musa).
Today’s Africa is the result of a trauma incurred by European crusaders, enslavers and colonizers. Then how can one deduced that “Africans” is more violent than the European crusaders, enslavers and colonizers?
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Whoa! Have no fear for atomic energy
'Cause none of them can stop the time
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it’s just a part of it
We’ve got to fulfill the book
– Bob Marley, Redemption Song
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Interesting, Quid, I hope you are not trying to take sides by taking a response of Passer-by that was directed at me to retort to the exchange/discord we had earlier.
If you would like, I would kindly ask you if we can communicate in PM
Could you elaborate on this, or share the findings from the Ra materials that it is “available” to all entities.
I am not sure if dividing and blaming Europeans and others for the current state of Africa is helpful in the sense of bringing unity to the discussion.
But to reply to your comment, Egyptian Pharaohs were the reason for the perversion of the Ra materials.
Atlantis was destroyed due to the same perversion among its population towards advanced crystal technology.
here is a list of Warlords and people that are responsible for Africa’s current state of chaos.
Do you remember Kony?
How is being the richest person in history a good thing? Other than impressing others?
Thank you for offering your perspective and intention.
Mansa Musa is definitely not violent at all, which was the hypothesis being discussed (African=Violent) He was famous when during his hajj trip from Timbuktu to Mecca he brought along a caravan containing many amount of gold to be distributed freely to people along the way. This act resulted in:
- Massive inflation of common good price on cities / villages along the route, as gold was used as a currency back then.
- The story become legend and attract invaders / robbers, especially from the northern area (including Europe) to seek out his infamous “land of Gold”. And history tells the rest.
- Mansa Musa then dubbed as “richest and generous person in history”.
I don’t want to judge his action along good or bad dichotomy, as it depends from which perspective.
Yes it’s available to all entities, rather than asking me, why not try to consult with your higher self? As such is the entities that will then arrange it.
As explained the difficulties lies in trying to prove it objectively.
Having said that you’re free to not believe that it’s available to you or all entities, which resulted in one will not request such event to be performed (Samadhi or Walk In). As mentioned positive entities will never try to impose upon others and only work upon request.
Using Gaming metaphor, if the player want to tackle the game challenges by itself then it is it’s right to do so. The challenges are given by the game to be tackled / solved anyway.
Exactly… it’s the same as labelling “Africans” as most violent, it will not help bringing unity to the discussion.
Having said that; it is a fact that the current state of Africa is influenced by the act of enslavement, conquest and colonization that it has suffered in the near past.
Exactly, in the similar manner as what Roman Emperor did to Jesus materials.
Do I really need to provide the list of Warlords in Europe? (or Asia, America and other continent).
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While Mansa Musa is often celebrated for his wealth, generosity, and contributions to Mali’s cultural and economic development during his reign, there are also some negative aspects and criticisms that can be associated with his rule:
- Economic Consequences: Mansa Musa’s extravagant pilgrimage to Mecca, during which he distributed vast amounts of gold, had significant economic consequences for the regions he passed through. The infusion of so much gold into local economies caused inflation and disrupted trade in some areas. The sudden influx of gold devalued the metal and disrupted the balance of currency exchange in the regions he visited.
- Attracting Invaders: Mansa Musa’s famous hajj and the legends of the “land of gold” that circulated as a result of his generosity attracted the attention of various invaders and adventurers, including those from North Africa and Europe. These outsiders sought to exploit the wealth of Mali, which eventually led to conflicts and attempted invasions.
- Lack of Strong Leadership Succession: After Mansa Musa’s death, his successors struggled to maintain the same level of stability and prosperity that he had achieved. Mali faced internal conflicts and external pressures, and the empire began to decline.
- Slavery: Like many other African empires and kingdoms of the time, Mali was involved in the trans-Saharan slave trade. Slavery was an integral part of the society, and while Mansa Musa himself is not known for particularly harsh or benevolent treatment of slaves, the institution of slavery was pervasive during his reign.
Mansa Musa’s actions can be viewed through various lenses, and while his generosity is often celebrated, some might argue that there were also unintended consequences to his actions, such as economic disruption and conflicts, which could be seen as aspects of self-interest.
From this observation, Mansa Musa could share the trait of a high-level sts where manipulation and the “appearance” of an extremely “good guy” have disruptive consequences.
Also, he did not abolish slavery, but used it like a very rich person.
I can do it for us, here ya go Quid.
26.15 Questioner: Wondering if the one, Abraham Lincoln, could have possibly been a Wanderer?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. This entity was a normal, shall we say, Earth being which chose to leave the vehicle and allow an entity to use it on a permanent basis. This is relatively rare compared to the phenomenon of Wanderers.
You would do better considering the incarnations of Wanderers such as the one known as “Thomas,” the one known as “Benjamin.”
“This is relatively rare”
Indeed, we feel that the addiction that many of your people have to watching television or playing video games has just exactly the same damping effect on spirituality. One cannot do spiritual work when one is totally involved in a video game or watching a show on television, yet those things are enjoyable and are there for you to use when you wish to use them.
Not sure why you use gaming metaphors so much and are so familiar with it. But I do wish you the best and hope you are ok.
This is a twisted logic, If you read my original comment, I was speaking from my personal opinion about how I viewed theological and spiritual texts from the Mormons and l/l research as possible racism in the past, and now I can understand that it is not completely true.
The behavior and psychosocial behavior of each race are linked in the FBI statistical data I shared…
This is blown out of proportion from your following comments.
I apologize, but I do not understand where the “spin” that you are making out of this statement.
You praised about good things of Africa and used Egypt as an example, so I mentioned the perversion of the Ra materials, and now you are spinning it to the Roman Emperor.
So are you saying that you agree with me that Egyptian Pharaohs weren’t that good?
If you would like, that is up to you, We were discussing Africa and so forth and you wanted to keep the premise of this conversation surrounding this by displaying great “African” figures to impress others.
Sorry quid, but I have no intention to participate in bellicosity with the discussion, as I have explained myself many times.