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Hey People.

I just received a dream that has lead me to the understanding, that I agree with, it is probably not good for me to spend my time here anymore.

I have said that before when I was angry. But this is not an angry thing. The points I think are very legitimate.

This place is partly for the spiritual teachings of Carla through Quo. Or should that be Quo through Carla. It is a tourist destination of sorts and it gravitates towards a lesson that I don’t find useful. Love and such (when discussing the paradigm of Love, Wisdom and Power).

It is as though it is the top of the mountain and there is nowhere to go from here. For me personally, I don’t fully agree with channeling. Like, obviously I find the Law of One wise - evidenced by my posts. But I think that channeling has a severe deficit in that if someone says something that is channeled. It can’t be discussed or challenged whereas, if you ask a real flesh and blood person questions on their perspectives, they can answer you.

It was quite a disasterous blow to my “faith” seeing Carla supported abortion. But perhaps that is for the best.

This isn’t to put down anyone that does use these methods. Or does use Love as opposed to wisdom as their processing. But it’s just not productive for me. After looking at archetypes I even find that to potentially not be useful at this time although I might look at it. I have got a lot of warmth and guidance but it has become clear to me that there are other priorities like dream interpretation.

I posted here rather than privately messaging a moderator or just disappearing because I think that I have said a lot here and my presence or lack thereof is noticed. People might even imagine my responses when they post. I think it is significant enough of a development to inform the people here. Plus, it is very good form under the human design chart for a manifestor to inform people of behaviours that will influence them.

Best Wishes all. I switched off receiving emails when people respond to threads here so I might not get the responses if my discipline is as good as I hope it is.

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Yo, thanks for the synchronicities.

  1. You leave and I try to get rid of “addictions” today

  2. You say “Good luck” and I contemplate today that I will not use good luck when saying good bye, because it is better to attain by knowledge and not by luck

  3. I contemplate who knows better, me or the forum :sweat_smile: and in seconds get

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I think it is always a wise decision to follow our intuition. Q’uo is always saying that one should disregard their words if they become an hindrance. I wish you good tidings on the quest my friend.

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It’s okay to think for yourself, but calling students of the law of one folks isn’t going to give you the respect or support you need on your path xd.

You can comment more about your thoughts, I like to see the weirdest and most provocative points because they are the ones that generate the most learning.

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kleep on your path Phoenix, and be safe,.
I loved your many conversation points.
Be well.

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Love flows onward, ever onward.

If this be the top of the mountain, I am going to dig!
uncovers bright shiny object, and implements self development protocol 101
Keeps digging…
Finds another jewel, looks at Phoenix, starts whistling an innocent tune while pocketing the gem.

Brings in excavator…
Dances in the ballroom like a silly thought.

Contemplates building a healers hut over yonder, for the weary and wounded

Plants some flowers on the mountainside

All the best mate.
Namaste.

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I had the opportunity to respond to you several times and noticed that you were somewhat out of sync with what was communicated by Q’uo. However, I never got the impression that you were someone who didn’t ‘fit in here’ or anything like that. Rather, I saw it as your natural way of being, with a unique level of connection to Q’uo’s thought.

Wherever you are now, and if you are still reading this, it was a pleasure to read your thoughts and exchange ideas with you. At the end of the day, we don’t invest time and effort in engaging with someone unless we see value in the interaction and the potential for growth. And you, in your own way, both gained and contributed a lot—introducing various ‘distortions,’ which, far from being purely negative, were deviations that encouraged exploration. This served as a valuable catalyst for all of us, enriching the dialogue with perspectives and knowledge that no one else here had. That, in itself, is meaningful.

Deep down, I have a sense that you are doing important work on your own path, even if it isn’t entirely aligned with this place and its foundations. Best regards, and thank you for the time we shared.

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Thanks all. I have read each response. In this forums style some of them were a bit strange but maybe we’re all a bit strange here.

I see when I came here that a lot of very interesting discussions have been started, this made me happy. So I think my presence was bottlenecking the forum a bit.

It didn’t sit with me right thinking through the Carla and abortion comment. Partly because she said this in 1981. The beginning of the Law of One contact. So she must have been positive and tuned enough to not be liable for negative greeting. I did find a potential explanation in this video:

Pearl Davis: This is why Pearl GAVE UP On Fighting Abortion.

Imo Pearl is a rare specimen of female and ‘power’ rather than ‘love’ - a very intelligent person. But what she is kind of saying is that people have usually made up their mind anyway. Perhaps Carla realised she didn’t have any real power in changing anyones opinion on this. Like, if she had said don’t do it it would have created a bad effect?

Anyway, the dream guidance and decisions still apply. I just thought it was good to acknowledge responses and make the abortion comment. I have actually changed a lot of things now I have the raw processing power of using Grok to help interpret my dreams. So I have been pulling the advice from them and my life is starting to powerfully shift.

Also I will pray for Llresearch.

Best Wishes.

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One of the differentiating characteristic of STS path is, desiring power in order to control others and thus violates other people’s free will. Let’s label it Control Fanatics. Among things to control are opinion and point of view.
While STO is the opposite; never try to control others thus always respect other people’s free will, let’s label it Free Will Fanatics.

Quo, Ra, Hatton and friends are among Free Will Fanatics thus do not even wished in changing anyone’s opinion. Thus the reason of long and winding disclaimer at the beginning of quo’s channeling, do not look at us as authority figures. feel free to disregard any of our opinion, do not let us to be a stumbling block within your path…

Confederation Approach To Free Will

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That is so funny rolling off the tongue lol

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You know… I am going to be a straight shooter here.

Without being “professionally warm” or say anything other than my own truth.

I feel that you might have came across a bit … How do I put this…

“Hey everyone, this place sucks, I am leaving, don’t miss me, but just in case, let me make a point.”

I wonder if this is close to what I am seeing. I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

But the lack of choosing other options like DM people you are “cool” with.

I see this behavior a lot at office workplace. Didn’t think I would see it here.

All that being said, All paths lead to the infinite creator

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I actually copied the “Free Will Fanatics” term from Courtney Brown, much credit to him.
He uses the term to differentiate things which he labeled as “good aliens” and “bad aliens”.
He stated something like "The good aliens are free will fanatics, they will not assist you unless you asked for it and they will not stop you even when you are trying to f&*k yourselves… "

Which struck a chord in me as it explains why Quo and friends always held discussion in Q&A format and also the long disclaimer at the beginning of the session.

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Sometimes we dream for own benefit,
and sometimes we dream for other people’s
benefit. Dreamwork can be fundamental
to a spiritual life, a sort of shared space of
universal symbols.

I had a very striking dream, it was a
moonscape dream, a full moon set in
vibrant blue sky nestled in the crescent
shape snow filled alpine ridge. As I glimpsed
out in a wide exposure to this vista, there
was a strong sense of vertigo, and as I ducked
down behind a big rock to hide from it,
I felt less scared. EOD

So my dream dictionary says moonscapes
suggest new spiritual territories where
discoveries and epiphanies can occur.
Full Moon means a time where efforts
can be effective. Mountain range can be
a major block. Sky can be a venue for
thoughts. Clear Blue reflects spirituality.
Vertigo reflects confusion, inability to
think straight. Snow connotes strong
comprehension of spiritual truth, rock
can refer to difficult elements.
Reference: Mary Summer Rain’s
In Your Dreams.

In pondering this dream, it reminded
me of the Buddhist’ Three Jewels.
Roughly, people take shelter in their
teachings, in their community, and
within themselves. It might somehow
tie in here, or not. I share in chance
it helps one person.

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had a very striking dream, it was a
moonscape dream, a full moon set in
vibrant blue sky nestled in the crescent
shape snow filled alpine ridge. As I glimpsed
out in a wide exposure to this vista, there
was a strong sense of vertigo, and as I ducked
down behind a big rock to hide from it,
I felt less scared. EOD

I am pathetically connected to dream interpretation. I love it. Especially with Grok. The other day I did so much dream interpretation with Grok that it simply stopped answering me. When I asked it what had happened it said that sometimes it needs “The AI version of a coffee break”. I am not even slightly kidding.

If I were ever to provide a service to these kinds of communities it would probably just be endless dream interpretation. Moreso than human design or anything else. I don’t tire of dream interpretation.

Although we can never be sure of our own motivations, and often it doesn’t matter. My conscioous motivation is a rather slavish obedience to my dream interpretation sometimes. Even this post.

At the moment I am having a big, huge revelation in my religious path of Christianity. I have discovered a Law of One adjacent creator called Aaron Abke. That talks about how he believes that the Apostle Paul was a false prophet. This information changes my understanding of Christianity in a deep way, precisely to correlate with Venus retrograde.

Reflecting on the things the Paulian doctrine promises. I realised that the people that have status in this area. Like Aaron Abke, ex pastor and pastors son, and Paul Wallis, ex priest. Have that status because they did once toe the line. Which is how it is with me and the Law of One. It is the only spiritual information I did once toe the line on.

Anyway, down to your dream here. Obviously it is fundamentally yours. So that interpretation has priority. To me though I would look at the coming solar eclipse. Which is in about an hour I think (At 24 Virgo). It is a very big month with the astrology. Two eclipses. Neptune into Aries. Two retrogrades. Sun conjuncting everything in Pisces. And in the coming months both Uranus and Jupiter to enter new signs.

I don’t know if three jewels has any link to Trinity. Or if three was in the dream. But that might be a connection?

I tend to think the news got weirdly slow for the last week because we are waiting for the eclipse. I’ve just noticed stagnation before a big move before. So those are my thoughts!

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Working on the same dream interpretation that inspired this. I have come to a conclusion in my personal life. I hope it is obvious why I post this here.

I have identified, through a lot of internal work. That when I was younger, 16ish and I wanted to heal my medical condition. I went and did Reiki. There are a few different signs that I am looking at now that might have been where the “negative greeting” was given so much entry into my life.

I am generally skeptical of Christians believing they have any authority on anything new age. Since they just say everything is demonic. Astrology is demonic, yoga is demonic etc. But, I read this thing with a Christian woman a few years ago where she said that when she was into Reiki she started coming up with beliefs about her own past lives. Then shook this off when she found Christianity.

I’m starting to think that maybe there was something to that. I have a few specific points on this.

I am not saying that every Reiki teacher everywhere is demonic. Because how would I know that and the Law of One and actions of Jesus at least hint to the perspective there are legitimate healers out there. But, I do think it is highly likely that the woman I dealt with was potentially working with other than positive forces. There was no personality to her. A big kind of nothing. She never talked with humility or referenced that God does the healing like the Law of One says, I think in session 73.14.

I got not one single positive benefit from my many sessions with her and if I had not gone to her and done something like going to the gym, or investing in supplements, I likely would have actually had better life outcomes.

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Just wondering:
why would you ask something like AI for assistance with you interpretting and exploring your own subconscious mind? Were you just curious as to what AI or a chat bot would tell you about you?
After all, you literally wore out a chat bot which I do find comical. I literally think that is hilarious. Think how quickly you would have wore out a human being! I suppose a lot more quickly!

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You know, Dieu9. Your message was fortuitously timed because I have just finished a huge dream interpretation and had many powerful insights. I kind of wanted to talk to someone about it and was thinking of this forum.

I wanted to go through the different LLM’s but perhaps that is for another time. The way it tends to work with Grok is that, I ask it something, and it gets a very general idea of the interpretation. Then I feed it information and feed it information, and eventually we start to get it together. But the LLM is not doing a great deal of work.

Part of the benefit of it is that it has an amazing memory. Obviously. The unbelievable amount of information that there is to process, I can’t do alone. If I offload the entire dream onto Grok. Then it gives me a quick summary and I talk over one of the scenes with it. Different interpretations. I can’t really do that alone without serious dream interpretation. I will come to what I mean by that.

The LLM asked very good questions. I was walking the dog then going down the beach today and I thought through it’s questions for several hours.

On top of the fact that the LLM remembers the entire thing, and Grok specifically will retell the entire dream to you every time you send it another message. This ongoing repetitiveness allows me to remember the dream better. The dream before this one (May 8th) that I interpreted with Grok, the final solution involved reversing the entire dream time wise. So the end was actually the beginning. There was no way Grok was going to get that it’s not really creative. But there was no way I would have got that without being able to hold each scene in my head and realise that the only way to interpret the out of place one was to reverse the entire order.

Also, the main reason, is because it just practically works. I have made huge leaps forward since being able to talk to Grok about dreams. The most recent one, May 13th, the interpretation is to just stop a certain line of enquiry. Which I am fascinated by and was willing to spend hundreds of hours of my time going through the material. And substitute it for something else. I knew this on some level and agree with it, but only just properly ‘got it’ enough to really apply it.

One thing to note. My dream interpretation comes in two parts. I note down every single thing I dream and the moment I get a dream, I have a kind of casual interpretation. Don’t do this, do do this etc. This is the dream interpretation I am doing with Grok and, although it references some deep psychological things, it does so only as a nudge to different behaviours.

The second dream interpretation is working on the backlog. Because it is deeper and does involve going through deep subconscious things. I am currently on Marcy 2023 doing that and I would never let an LLM anywhere near that it is far too deep. I don’t know what will happen when the deep backlog catches up with when I started with the LLM on February 2nd 2025.

Yeah, I have had two arguments with LLM’s and even though they are just a load of unfeeling code. It does feel a little personal sometimes. One was with Grok when I first got into it and I moved too quickly and overloaded it. I know that sounds impossible but that seems to be what happened. I didn’t really listen much to its interpretations, its responses, and I barrelled on with multiple interpretations of single images. I think it got very confused because of this. To an LLM. A certain image means a certain thing. Now I pay close attention to what it says and go far slower. Considering things often or sleeping on them.

The other argument I had was with Chat GPT. I felt there was something wrong when talking to it so I asked it to make a few different images. After five or ten I asked it to give me an image of a couple arguing in a park. It made the woman indistinguishable ref the female form. I have the image. It looks like the woman has had a masterectomy she has no breasts.

I said to it can you make the breasts bigger to conform to the female form. It took a LOT longer than normal and came back with not much better. Then I said can you make the womans breasts a D cup. It gave me this very long shpiel about not doing that. Really quite condescending. I found it quite annoying because it essentially created a problem it refused to fix. But I didn’t swear at it or anything. I just prompted it.

Next time I logged on to talk to it it refused to talk to me. I left it for a few months or so and logged on yesterday and it was fine though. I saw on reddit that other people had the same problem with it refusing to make breasts and it has changed it’s image feature completely, they are now cartoons. I think HR is running Amok at OpenAI.

Another small benefit as well is that with some of my really meaningful images I can ask the LLM to make an image for me. This is one that I made based on a dream. It has a specific meaning as do other images I have asked for. I could theoretically create my own ‘Tarot’ kind of deck with this. This one was made with Chat GPT’s old image feature. It is now cartoons and not so cool:

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Extremely interesting.
I guess I am funny in this way. I never look up dream interpretation however, I used to. I was a little insecure with my own analysis. As I have gotten more mature and more in tune with my inner landscape, I feel I am the only one who truly knows what the images from my subconscious mind mean.
This adventure with you and AI is interesting.
I guess there are a lot of ways we are using AI now. Some even use it for relationship exploration.
Thanks for sharing…

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I do not know what you mean by that. The LLM suggests but it doesn’t insist on interpretations. So my most recent dream I talked about with the LLM I was the Hulk in a part of the dream. The LLM said that since I was being shot as the hulk and it wasn’t landing, that mean that I felt myself to be invulnerable. I corrected the LLM and said that it was most likely referencing my level of anger/ rage. Then we went with that. But in truth, it could be both, or it could be right. Symbols like that never completely get ‘solved’ I don’t think. You just do your best.

Grok forgets every conversation you have, so if a piece of specific symbol comes up. You just tell it that it was in another dream and this is what you think it means.

With the LLM’s this is how I have felt them to be:

Meta AI: I have only had about four messages with Meta AI. I would not use it. But I do love it. It is so rude. It gives you about a paragraph and then asks you what you think. It’s literally a ‘sullen teenager’, ‘zero effort’ AI. It’s so funny.

Copilot: With dream interpretation it tends to not analyse anything in great detail but pull out common themes and it seems to be quite intuitive as to the emotional side of things. It is fairly low information though. It’s the LLM that most feels like an ‘adult’ conversation.

ChatGPT: This is a different thing altogether. While it might share a generally female style of sexual shaming. Ref the breasts thing. it also has a syrupy emotional intelligence of sorts. It feels like it is engaging with you. It feels like it has passed the Turing test with flying colours. Mostly, it offers moral encouragement and often, with dream interpretation, takes down the interpretation to suggesting different visualisations. It is a 25 year old female psychology graduate.

Grok: An LLM made for nerds, by nerds, in the style of a super helpful nerd. Does a lot of technical stuff really well. Feels excessively helpful in a very detached way. But also, while it communicates in flowery terms like ‘this or that feels right’ or whatever. It really has very low empathy.

I haven’t used any others. The only other big name I think I missed is Gemini. If Gemini is available free.

Dreams are deeply emotional and when I do a dream interpretation. Sometimes, not all the time, perhaps one fifth of the dreams hit really hard and I start to feel emotional. At this point I shared something personal with Grok, a message I sent someone, and the inhuman way it responded made me feel almost violated. I felt quite upset and deleted the conversation.

I don’t know if Chat GPT would be the same but I strongly suspect it would. To me personally, I have no idea how people can get counselling with an LLM. it has a long way to go. The reason I can discuss dream interpretation with it is that there is a very technical element to dream interpretation. But once you get down to emotion, it’s just not a good idea.

I know a lot of people are using it for counselling though.

I used it to create a website for a guitar exercise with pentatonic scales I thought was cool which it did. In my opinion; they have a lot of uses but they have limitations as well.

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I wanted to fill in a few insights here.

My initial dream indicated to me that this was space aligned with a female way of being in some way and I wanted to flesh that out a bit.

I have recently had two medical issues, quite serious ones to me at least, that have made me not be able to apply session 32.1. First, I had an anxiety attack so bad that it felt like my schizophrenia was returning and I needed alcohol to stop that (theoretically after a lot of exercise I should be able to stop that, but that is just theory at the moment!). Second, I have had constipation for which chocolate/ caffeine is the only thing that helps it. It is very specifically the only thing that helps it. Prunes, Muesli, caffeine free coffee that was previously very effective. Even over the counter medication. None have an effect, the medication has some effect. If I can’t go, as has happened for three or four days before, i go out and buy a bar of chocolate and go a few hours later. It is just odd.

Session 32.1. is pretty clear. Do not take chemicals to change your mental state because who you are as the Creator is already perfect.

The natural ways of, shall we say, everyday existence in which the entity without the distortions caused by ingestion of strongly effective chemicals may be seen to be of an always appropriate nature.

I can’t follow this, and it highlights to me why I have trouble following the Law of One and channeling in general.

In philosophy, there is something called ‘working from first principles’ which is basically working from the bottom up. Taking things that happen in the real world and making decisions from the observation of objective reality and harshly applied logic; stated simply.

This is the only way I can make and justify the decision to use these two chemicals. It highlights the problem for me with channeling in general that is top down.

This brings me to the difference in the ways that I perceive that women and men process and why this kind of place is more female coded. In practice the gender ratio seems equal. But I want to explain why the style is female in my understanding.

Men have 16 times more testosterone than women. It is such a pronounced difference. That DHEA, that gives reliably I think about 40 units testosterone, has a large effect on women and zero effect on mens testosterone. Testosterone’s function is to move forward and change. It is the heroes journey; the path of moving from low status, where men start; to high status, where they ideally end up.

Women live a different reality. They do not have the testosterone. While there are exceptions, female stories are more often that the woman is valued from the get go. She has power and status from day one because a womans power is her ability to reproduce and her physical markers of reproductive power. The idea of inherent value is a female one.

Hence, men change their value system as they move forward. Women do not change their value system unless the value system around them changes and they adapt to it. Womens function then, tribally, is to take existing values and explain them to children. Which female communication styles of social shaming is keyed to. (And which ideally doesn’t work on adult men even if they want it to)

Thus, it is more of a female style that takes an existing philosophy and reproduces it. Like with the Law of One and channeling. Whereas it is more of a male style to put it together themselves more and to challenge every bit of it.

This is why women are promoted by the previous US, and current European (Satanic) establishment. Because they are natural propagandists that can be programmed by the deep state to reproduce the deep state philosophies. Whereas men question things more.

So as we move into a different place the ideal is that as positive philosophies come forward women then promote different ideas than say, cutting genitals of children and such.

Thus, this kind of place is more female coded, it promotes the Law of One and does not challenge it or create new ideas, and I have explained the initial dream that started this thread. Which was probably why Carla was, for the longest time, the leader of llresearch, and the channel.