Goodness Patrick and Tadeas, you two Harmonized so beautifully in the past few thoughts…
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That’s why this makes fun - harmony on different ways, knowing we are One.
I’ve come back to this thread a few times, mainly because the title topic is in fact the very thing that led me to study this material in the first place. (The fact that it seems to also contain some terrific self-help advice is, to me, a totally unexpected side bonus, if you will …!)
In thinking about this, and how I could best be of service in to those on the thread, it occurred to me that trying to illuminate anything novel from a metaphysical perspective is probably not going to be all that fruitful. I do not yet know enough specifics as to the nature of the transition to be of any service in that area. Before making any effort to help illuminate some possibilities, I re-read the relevant portions of the original Ra material, sessions 62 and 63. (An enormous and heartfelt thank you to those of LLR who carefully transcribed and set up the site so that it is so easy to search for!) Having read these portions again, I am now pondering, and trying to integrate these concepts into my understanding and life experience so far. Things are … Curious. 
I will reserve my conjecture for the moment, as I feel that I have insufficient data available, at this time, to be of any great help.
What did occur to me is much more “down-to-Earth,” if y’all will pardon the pun. (Lawd I hate puns, but I suppose I will make an allowance here.) Were I to approach this problem from the perspective of a medical professional, I would perhaps make use of the “SOAP” method – “Subjective, Objective, Assessment, Plan.” Indeed, I note that tadeus even mentions a “prognosis” at one point, so it does indeed appear as if we were assessing a patient, of sorts.
If I were to attempt to go through the SOAPing process, however, I would, going solely by this thread, struggle to get past the first heading. Patrick’s “Subjective” states that he sees a “very bright future.” tadeus sees only the negative coming to fruition.
It would almost appear, based upon this, that we are looking at two totally different patients altogether. Thus, I think that perhaps the first step in our SOAP would be to identify the subject in question in order to best determine the most helpful course of action. If our “Subjective” differs so wildly, so, logically, will our eventual “Plan,” but perhaps this is because we are looking at different patients rather than different parts of the same patient body.
I think we can reconcile both point of views by stating that it might get worst before it gets better. 
Patrick, I hope you realize I’m not picking on your here and I’m only nit picking this because I so wholeheartedly agree with the remainder of these statements, and, by and large, your overall sentiments here in general. However, I noted when I first read this that the 1st statement here (“The Elites are not the cause, I am”) bothers me immensely, and it’s taken me several days to figure out exactly why.
Initially, I took exception to it because of the implication; that is, that any of us is somehow responsible for the [fill-in-blank global Human catastrophe] – we clearly are not. That said, I realize that isn’t really what you are saying … However, I still do have a slight problem with this statement, and I think it is that the omitted word is still too negative for what I think you are trying to convey.
The statement, “The Elites are not the cause [of the problem], I am,” is still focusing on the negative. Your unstated words, which I have placed in brackets, is a negative. You suggest that there is a problem. Even if we assume that there is one (debatable, in my opinion), the statement, by focusing on it at all, still acts to amplify it. Worse, because it implies blame (“I am [the problem]”), it sets up potential for a spiral of self-doubt.
Other than that, I think that your statements are accurate – though, again, a bit skewed towards the negative.
I think … Well.
“Worse” is, of course, a subjective term – “worse” for whom, exactly? … The execs at Pfizer sure are having the time of their lives, and how 'bout that guy who just manage to lose $8 billion somehow, into thin air? I imagine he’s having a ball with it (okay, sure, he’s gotta look sad/confused for the cameras, but – you know he’s enjoying this).
If you are not One of Them, though (in this particular incarnation), then yeah – various metrics of standard-of-living are sure as heck declining. There is an awful lot of suck going around; I won’t argue that … But as to whether or not that constitutes “worse,” I suppose it depends on how you like your bandage removed. Soaked in warm water and gently tugged, or yanked right off?
It’s in the sense that we are responsible for what we experience.
In this particular case, STS has influenced us for thousands of years and hundreds of incarnations, but still it’s the collective choices we made in those hundreds of incarnations that resulted in where we are now. Their influence is powerless to affect our choices if we have no attraction to it.
The so called 1% cannot really control the other 99%, unless we agree with them on some level, which we do. Like my example of expecting good service at a restaurant because we paid for the service. That expectation is very much left hand path and yet not many people would think of questioning that.
Without our collective bias towards the negative polarity, STS could not make enough inroad so as to end up deciding/controlling the system we use.
I find it always helpful to remember that it is not someone else that is trying to control me. It’s a part of me that really believes I would be better off that way.
Then the questions I am asking of the Universe is how come the One Creator is insane? As in why are we insane? Why does the One Creator wishes to hurt itself? As in why do we wish to hurt ourselves?
So if we take responsibility, then we won’t try to offload this on the Elites and instead we can start working on changing ourselves (our biases) so that their influence no longer sticks to us. Because it seems that our biases is the only thing that we carry with us from incarnation to incarnation.
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Of course, because everyone is responsible for their own actions.
The influence is as powerful as you follow their agenda.
That’s the heart of STS.
There was a time of self responsibility and It was underestimated how strong the effect is in the long run, when people have been systematically deprived of their own responsibility and replaced it by an alleged security. Unfortunately people do not realize what this entails.
So thinking about such an bias is a good point to start.
Of course there is the anomaly of the wanderer. If someone is a wanderer and this is their first incarnation on this planet, their biases are not causal. But then the wanderer knew what they were getting into by incarnating here. So there is still a need to accept responsibility for what is experienced.
In the younger population, I see them no longer watching the news (or even watching TV). They connect with each others no matter where they are in the world and no matter what country/allegiance. They are more loving/accepting.
That is the sort of thing that gives me hope. It is by looking at each new generation that we see where this is going next.
I cannot say that I agree with this post, but it will take me some time to tease out and articulate the reasons why. Please forgive my bluntness as it is not intended as confrontational or as a sleight. I have simply found that it takes me some time to go from “impression” to articulation in these matters, and that the nuances can often take several days to tease apart.
That said, as your last post alludes to, I am not from here. Perhaps this is why none of this translates very well to me.
In the meantime, please illuminate or elaborate on your analogy of the restaurant as something here, again, seems to be lost in translation. One does not pay for the service at a restaurant until after the service has been rendered. Thus, the expectation set up is on the part of the server, not the patron. The server expects that she will receive a larger financial compensation if she is attentive, friendly, and times her delivery well. The patron is the one who has the power to decide whether or not his perception of her service will affect the financial compensation that he provides to her. My experience thus far on this planet indicates that the correlation is generally loose, at best, in these circumstances. Generally, one who is in the position of patron is sensitive to the vibrations given off by one who is server, and this tends to have a greater effect on his justification for financial compensation than the quality of service does. Additionally, or conversely, a patron who is less-aware as to the mechanics of how things work may choose to lower the financial compensation of the server due to factors outside of her control, that is to say, the quality of the food and/or its speed of delivery.
That said, as may be quite evident to you by now, I clearly do not understand precisely what it is that you are trying to convey with your analogy.
I do not believe that the One Creator is insane.
There may be a sub-Logos involved here who may not have all of his priorities straight, but that’s another matter …
The fact that this example is so hard to understand is exactly what I am trying to point out. We are using money/trade to enslave each others. This is normal since it is the raison d’être of the concept of money/trade in the first place. It might be the best tool STS ever invented. It practically does the work for them.
The service provided by the waiter is conditional. The help that I provide to my employer is conditional. All conditional on being paid or exchanged for something. We are raised by the system to think that this is normal. So much so that people do not understand what is meant by this not being normal.
(Trade also being an STS concept is even harder to understand than it is for money)
Yet we live in that system now and must accept and deal with it, but we can at least discuss these things and talk about alternatives. Slowly, by discussing these with our children, they may start implementing changes that will eventually take us to something else once they reach positions of authority themselves. They’ll have to do it, because our mind cannot even imagine what that could be like. We think it’s utopic, but in reality it should be normal.
There is no one else. There is only the One Creator in the process of knowing itself via experience. We are this process taking place. We observe and experience this insanity directly right here and now.
It might be hard to believe while incarnated on this planet, but the Universe is supposed to be fun at all times. It is meant to be a wonderful playground. The saga of polarity has thrown a wrench in the cogs. This was not planned for. Who would have thought that a part of the Creator wished to hurt itself if the means were made available? The veil provided the means and now we can observe/experience this insanity ourselves. Which means that the One Creator is observing/discovering this itself.
Is it going to heal itself from this before designing the next great Octave? Or are we going to create a playground that provides for even more nightmarish scenarios to be explored?
These are the questions I am pondering. I know how I would like to cast my vote.
It has nothing to do with the accounting system. I am a CPA. The accounting system is just a way to record transactions that happened. If you don’t use current accounting system, you need another system to record what happened, so called book keeping system.
Remember 80/20 rule or Matthew’s law? 10% or 20% of people contribute 80% or 90% of the wealth/creation/crime, or whatever the things. So you always have someone with more credit and others with less.
If you distribute the world wealth evenly to each person, right now. After 5 years, a few people will get very rich and a few will get very poor.
Even in RA’s planet, I remember they said that only 1/6 of people can move to 4th density while 5/6 have to stay as it is. So not everyone can be saved and can be fixed.
I have to wholeheartedly disagree. Most of the new generation don’t know what is going on. They are laying on the wealth/system created by their hardworking fathers/grandfathers. As we usually say: good time creates weak people. The new generation is weak people and they will get into a hard time and then hard time will generate strong people.
Has anyone asked Q’uo about this? I don’t think “using money/trade” is to enslave each other provided it’s a trade with free will. The money and trade were invented in different regions of the world independently so I think it’s a product of natural evolution, just like the invention of wheel.
You are right, accounting per se is not the issue. We could make use of reverse accounting, where we take note of what resources people are using in order to better predict where/what resources will be needed next.
But this is not something people raised on the current system can easily understand or imagine.
Try to imagine how Ra’s society worked while they were in 3d. Without any trade/barter/money. Everything shared and unconditional.
The confederation is trying to explain these things to us. But it is beyond our imagination still.
I brought a small part of remembrance of these things with me in this incarnation. I have a dim understanding in the form of concept-patterns that were I able to share my thoughts would make it obvious to others, but using words makes it extremely difficult to portray/share.
Gene Roddenberry tried his best to portray such things, but it still falls short in properly facilitating the imagination on how that would work.
What you describe is, on this planet, termed as “communism”. It would indeed be a utopian ideal were the STS entities not involved to usurp it. Unfortunately, that is not the case here.
I understand what you are saying, and the ideal that you describe (I think) … Perhaps better than you would suspect. Money is also not a concept that is native to my place of origin. We give things freely to others. I have found that those on this planet find this to be off-putting. I’m not sure if this is what you are talking about or not.
This strikes me as a deeply sad and lonely thought. Perhaps that is why the Creator has ultimately gone insane.
I don’t know all that many Gen Zers but I know a few. There is, I do believe, something very different about them. They “know” something, on a deep spiritual level, that the older generations for the most part do not. I have a much easier time connecting with them, by and large, but there is also a difficulty there for me as I must first shed my own acquired “hard edge” in order to do so.
Every single one I know is incredibly hard-working in his or her field. But, then, not a one that I know was born into wealth.
It’s not communism either. What I am talking about has no concept of required labor whatsoever.
What is hard to imagine is that our choices has made it so that it is now a struggle to survive on this planet.
Normally, living would be effortless. Nature would provide for our needs and we would only have to deal with standard 3d stuff, like creative expression, interpersonal and group relationships. Just like Ra tried to explain.
We would also live 700 to 900 years old and would have time to acquire some wisdom in each incarnation which would provide proper guidance to society.
Now we basically die before reaching adulthood. It is like we do not even reach the level of a 10 year old since we live 90 years compared to those living 900 years.
Q’uo has mentioned this a couple times, that we are like toddlers. Except that we are toddlers playing with weapons and being raised in a system that promotes negativity while we cannot reach enough maturity to realise what’s going on.
All of this is of course our own doing, while we are following the guidance of STS.
Many attempts have been made to provide us with positive guidance, but we have not enough attraction to it.
We have not enough attraction to negative guidance either, hence why the great majority remains unpolarized. What has been called the sinkhole of indifference.
That’s the way going on.
Patrick, I am in agreement with your suppositions regarding the ideal way of life on Earth, but I think what I’m trying to do is to figure out how to best convey this to those who cannot “remember” it, for one reason or another, or who cannot move past what they observe to be happening at this nexus in spacetime. One thing that occurred to me is that the (false?) concept of limited resources may play some part in the difficulties that we have, but I am not sure if this hypothesis is beneficial or not.
Assuming that I am accurate in my supposition, and that you and I do, fundamentally, see a similar vision, do not know how to best convey what it is that I think we are both seeing. There is a leap, a gap, that cannot really be overcome easily, and there are great reasons for that.
For the moment, I am going to put aside your comment that the Creator must be insane, because I don’t know how to really address those thoughts in a constructive fashion. I completely understand where you are coming from with it and why you would posit that hypothesis; however, something about it rings untrue for me and yet since I cannot find the verbiage to articulate my thoughts, it’s without merit to attempt to do so. I think that you are correct on one level, and theoretically correct on another level that is much deeper/larger/more holistic than that, but that there’s a level on which you are incorrect and there is something here that you are missing. The problem is that I do not know what that missing thing is. I suspect that it is somewhat central.
I have read accounts that tell a story that sheds some degree of light on the “why,” but 1. Those accounts are controversial, especially on this forum, I believe, and 2. Even if they are essentially “true” (I am of the belief that they are, for “reasons”), they still do not in any way obviate your point, which is that Humanity chose this. Thus, the other “reasons” for this state of suffering are virtually moot.
I think I would prefer to return, then, to the original thrust of my intent in posting, if it is acceptable to you. I believe that we are both of a mind and intention that the “goal,” if you will, is to generate positive messages and state of being in a currently negative society in order to help those within that society to more easily transition to an alternative, positive way of life. It seems, then, that we must first ascertain who our audience is in order that we may best tailor those messages to optimize receptivity. Thus, perhaps I should first ask you: What cohort group, if you will, is your primary focus in your public messages? What is your purpose?
“I don’t know” is, in my mind, a perfectly acceptable answer. I will offer the full disclosure that I am not entirely certain myself.