Hello, I want to describe a thought came to my mind. Before that I want to say about what I call “problem of bicyclists and bicycle lanes”. I guess there should be already some philosophical name for it that I don’t know. In our town we don’t have bicycle lanes and hence no bicyclists are riding on them. Occasional bicyclists are riding by usual roads and pavements. And if saying “I would like to have a town full of bicyclists riding by bicycle lanes” you might encounter someone saying “well, that’s not making sense because even if you build bicycle lanes you will not see bicyclists there, because I know that there are no no cyclists in out town (and when cyclists appear please come back)”. Talking with another passerby you will hear “of course there are no cyclists in the town as they do not have where to ride (and when bicycle lanes appear please come back)”. And you understood that bicyclists and bicycle lanes are dependent on each other. If you magically build lanes in the night the next day cyclists will not appear. Similarly if all people buy bicycles they just will not be able to ride and leave the bicycles at home, so you will not be able to see them and return to the person #2 saying “let’s build lanes”. So if you have a goal (town full of bicycles riding on bicycle lanes) you need to do it gradually. You can build some lanes, so come people will buy bicycles and ride. And also if people for some reason buy and ride bicycles it will stimulate to to build lanes and so on. In the end the goal should be archived. So bicycles and bicyclists are complex of two elements.
I was tell you this story because the veil is also separates the mind/body/spirit complex (of three elements). Due you to this veil people live in separation so when removing the veil it will bring to forth density automatically (in fact veil and forth dimension can also be viewed as a complex – to remove veil you need forth density and for forth density you need veil to be removed as they are interconnected). So why not starting from the veil? And in the same manner removing veil in mind leads to removing it in spirit and body or vice versa it can by removed from the spirit for example. Of course, this is also a graduate process and cannot be done immediately.
So depending from which point of view where one is looking something it can be either indication or means (analogy is lanes are indication of cyclists appeared or means how to appear the cyclists – doesn’t matter). Let’s call it the indicator as I don’t have name for it.
I was thinking about porno, nude people taboo and why it exists in the society I came to conclusion that it happens because of veil. So due to the veil people are forced to put clothes on and that leads to the imbalance when on the one hand there’s the taboo and on another hand there’s intention to look on nude people. Also it generates violence. As soon as it appeared (I wonder what wear in higher densities but I guess it should be OK both) people need to balance it. So the indifference towards having clothes put on is the indicator of the veil removed, doesn’t matter if you start from removing clothes so it will lead to remove the veil or you will see more nude people and will think “OK, looks like we’re moving forward, this mental block has been removed”.
I hope I was clear in my explanations. And I recognized same indicators in the tarot cards (from this view, of course). For example, card
Transformation of the Mind, The Lovers or Two Paths
contains two women on two sides of right angle: the red “negative” one is in dress and with with Moon, and the another one in green (to which the Sun/Sub-Logos points) is half-dressed. Some other cards also has this nude/not nude theme that points to this meaning.
Well, I don’t understand, but—listen, let me go on to the second query that I have. I had a dream the other night and I dreamed that I was here in meditation. But while I was here in meditation, I was all nude, I didn’t have any clothes. Everybody was very gracious and made believe that they didn’t see anything, and I cannot understand the dream. I would like to know what it meant.
Latwii
I am Latwii, and am aware of your query, my brother. We find that our response must be bated under the Law of Confusion, that is, we do not wish to work so much of this riddle for you that your own efforts then will not produce the fruit which is available. We may suggest, however, that one look upon the newborn infant. This entity is not swaddled upon the birthing. It enters the world of its experience without the clothing. It enters pure and fresh without the feeling of shame or guilt and is therefore ready to embark upon a new adventure. As it embarks upon this adventure, it shall learn to wear various kinds of clothing for various purposes. As you look at your experience in this group, look you then to the new portion of your being which seeks to be born.
Q’uo, we have questions sent in from seekers abroad. One is from G who asks: “Can Q’uo comment on the topics of addiction, namely sexual ones in relation to porn. It is a problem I and many others of my generation struggle with.”
Q’uo
I am Q’uo and am aware of your query, my brother. The sense of being addicted to any quality, concept or activity, is that feeling within one’s being that there is some lack of that which is necessary for the life to be felt as whole, as perfect, as the “way it should be.” This is usually because of a blockage in one of the energy centers that has become activated as a result of catalyst that you have chosen yourself to experience in order to free yourself of that which you call addiction. We would suggest that in this particular aspect of the sexual addictions, your culture has somewhat of a neurotic approach to this most powerful means of transferring energy between two entities, calling it that which is dirty and that which is desired at the same time; that which is used to sell and that which is hidden from sight. Thus it is a difficult area in which to find one’s way if one has the difficulty called addiction.
We would recommend within the meditative state that the experience of the sexual addiction be examined in its completeness, from the beginning of its inception to the completion of its wholeness, shall we say. Examine each detail that makes a mark within your memory of previous experiences. Discover what it is that has attracted you on not just the level of the physical senses, but on the level of emotional response and physic resonance, perhaps also a spiritual distortion that has become tainted, shall we say. Find these areas of conflict within your own being. Examine them carefully, then within the balancing processes that have been described previously, attempt to find a wholeness within each portion of the addictive behavior that exists within you that you can replace the need for the addictive behavior with.
We realize this sounds quite abstract and symbolic, and yet so must it be in order to speak in a general sense, for we cannot tell one specific person exactly how to behave in a certain fashion for that again, is the infringement upon freewill that we wish to avoid. However, we can speak in generalities. We hope that you will forgive us for such generalities. The basic idea is to look at the behavior being experienced that you wish to change, and then, in the meditative state, examine the facets of this behavior that you have, shall we say, conscious control over, and use your analytical ability to see how these facets are triggered by those areas you consider the pornographic expression of sexual energy exchange.
I went to a nudist resort once for a few days with a friend. My first time, not his. One of the big rules there was “no clothing in the pool area!” I thought this was kind of odd because you’re allowed to wear clothes everywhere else, just not in the pool area.
My friend pointed out to me that it’s actually, sexier, more seductive, to be taking off ones clothes than it is to just show up naked.
I thought this was really interesting, your post reminded me of that experience.
Interesting thoughts. If I understand you, you have concluded that the essential element is to shed the veil. Yet the question is whether there is any means to lift/shed that veil? And yes and no, I think.
On the one hand, everything is a distortion and illusion from the One. All levels of Densities (from 1 to 7 without 8, as I understand it) are levels of illusion of a given Density. The veil is a naturally occurring phenomenon in the Creation. So looking from this perspective, we will never be able to lift the veil, because this is not the intention and this is not the design.
On the other hand, we can penetrate the veil by utilizing of the Law of Confusion (Free Will). The distorted and illusory nature of our reality simultaneously provides the opportunity to exercise Free Will. By allowing us to fall into confusion, we also have the opportunity to “fall” into enlightenment.
The problem you presented about the two different possibilities (and a possible third intermediate and more balanced one) is perfectly suited for reference to the Law of Confusion. We won’t fully know what the outcome will be when we simply don’t make a choice. The truth will reveal itself to us after we make a choice, leaving us perplexed, stupefied, confused or confirmed, understand, enlightened.
Are there any methods to support Free Will (the Law of Confusion)? Directly no, because the Law of Free Will is the beginning of everything, that is First Distortion. Indirect yes, having more knowledge about something we are approaching will allow us to come out first with a different choice.
So, to penetrate the veil, two things are important I think, the belief in having one’s own will and understand the essence of using it, and additional knowledge related to the problem posed. And the veil/distortions/illusion as such lasted in the past, lasts and will last, because that is the principle of Creation at the lower Densities when at the top the undistorted the One itself is found.
Thank you for sharing this. Q’uo presents the problem of pornography in an interesting way by portraying it as a neurotic problem, where on the one hand what we are attracted to is potentially good for us and on the other hand is a burden to us.
The technique they give there can be applied I think to other addictions successfully. Although with such use of alcohol or narcotics it is similar. The addict thinks that this allows him to feel better and think differently, more openly, and in a result of the same, he/she suffers because he/she ultimately feels worse afterwards and is remorseful, because his/her thinking at the time though different was due to intoxication and was distorted.
I, like everyone, am one who knows the Creator within. There are only those who remember and those who have forgotten.”
The analysis of the first couple sessions on lovetruths.com, along with some other material and personal experiences leads me to believe that although Don really was focused on writing and dissemination and Carla and Jim were predisposed to attempting to help others by continuing the teaching and dissemination of the conscious channeling, that Ra’s material was geared for that specific group. To help one, is to help all, ect. Perhaps Ra mainly wanted the Law of One to be present in a form that makes some sense to one of the main cultures and types of thinking present on Earth. For some sort of smc in potential reasons. I have a feeling light entities have been hard at work in the past century and present, and before, providing various cultures and languages various explanations that provoke thought and contemplation to help teach.
Because if there’s one thing I’ve learned in my own dealings with love or unity focused entities is they and seemingly the multiverse as a whole has an obsession with teaching and learning. Usually things which teach some spiritual lesson; the ones interested in teaching you power within the illusion are not to be trusted. They might speak seemingly more directly, but what good is that when it’s invariably manipulation mixed with truth to cheese the mousetrap or outright lies? The positive communication, it’s multilayered and open to interpretation. Trust me, my higher self and other felt but not seen (psychedelics and deep meditation excepted) friends are useful and emotionally appreciated but as much as I might like to just instantly know, their obsession with teaching continues, what’s that Ra said something like if you aren’t teach/learning or learn/teaching, then what are you doing?
I think we are in one of those endless subdensities, I think that despite appearances it’s here. I think if your point of consciousness is focused here rather than on one of the, likely infinite as all things seem to be, Earths, then you are in the very beginning of positive 4D. Despite all appearances Eracidni Murev Te Transcript
“ I was tell you this story because the veil is also separates the mind/body/spirit complex (of three elements). Due you to this veil people live in separation so when removing the veil it will bring to forth density automatically (in fact veil and forth dimension can also be viewed as a complex – to remove veil you need forth density and for forth density you need veil to be removed as they are interconnected). So why not starting from the veil? And in the same manner removing veil in mind leads to removing it in spirit and body or vice versa it can by removed from the spirit for example. Of course, this is also a graduate process and cannot be done immediately.”
“ How can we get our memory back?
Meditation, deep exploration of that which fulfills you, guided psychedelic experiences.
Will the earth be destroyed?
The Earth as many of us knew it was already “destroyed,” in the sense that the dimensions and modalities of being offered by incarnating on Earth are no longer offered here and have not been since the turn of the decade.
Will there be a second coming of Christ?
There is no singular, ultimate Messiah. Stop looking and begging for one. There is no “salvation” that will occur outside of yourself. The biblical stories are designed to help you find the “Kingdom of God, within.” That is the nature and pathway to “salvation.” Christ’s journey is also analogous to the personal, psychological, and spiritual one you must undertake, yourself, if you wish to evolve spiritually.”
If you study NDEs, it’s ALL, besides a litter fundamentalist fearmongering, reincarnation, life lessons, you are a fractal of The One, all is one, better be kind because you’re only hurting yourself (in a teaching way, not “hell” way). Some seemingly more developed spirits go further in some aspects than Ra on certain topics. A lot of other ones might just have some part of the universe dressing up as Jesus or perhaps some split of that entity, but always the reincarnation and all is one. Some girl, temporarily dead, walked or floated up to a stereotypical looking “god”, you know beardy, and “he” asked her “what if it was just you and me forever?” Conversation. “Everything is me”. I prefer the larger view ones though. But the point is that this information is being disseminated in many “distortions” by many individuals who have never heard of the Law of One.
Another common component of these experiences is that some vague really big change is underway. I believe this is the transition.
“ I was thinking about porno, nude people taboo and why it exists in the society I came to conclusion that it happens because of veil. So due to the veil people are forced to put clothes on and that leads to the imbalance when on the one hand there’s the taboo and on another hand there’s intention to look on nude people. Also it generates violence. As soon as it appeared (I wonder what wear in higher densities but I guess it should be OK both) people need to balance it. So the indifference towards having clothes put on is the indicator of the veil removed, doesn’t matter if you start from removing clothes so it will lead to remove the veil or you will see more nude people and will think “OK, looks like we’re moving forward, this mental block has been removed”.
Well perhaps an indifference to clothes depending heavily on temperature and the need for ultraviolet and other types of protection is a more mature position and thus could be indicative of being more enlightened or less veiled.
Historically though remember Ra’s comment about our problematic “adversary” relationship between males and females? Whether it is Saudi women who are slaves by culture, or radical feminists who don’t stand for equality and think males simply lack refined feelings entirely, the whole sexual dynamic on Earth in the history or present we have a decent idea of is totally dysfunctional.
Just an example, I’m not a Christian but Carla was and a lot was somewhat colored by that lens and even for the spiritual but not religious that religion and its literature is a fairly common cultural touchstone for Americans and Europeans, the Eucharist, the original drink that did allow you to commune with higher densities, came from a cult persecuted by the Romans before Christianity. The cult of Dionysius was persecuted first, the Romans liked order and certain drugs lead to questioning and a reliance spiritually on oneself, even if helped by shamans and the like, rather than state religion and deified emperors. Women from hunter gatherer times were the original pharmacists. Beer or wine infused with things like lysergic acid from processed ergot or various plants and fungi allowed you to “consume/become the god”. The Romans when Christianity went “corporate “ compiled and edited “the” Bible, demoted women to not threaten their existing social hierarchy and took the good stuff out of the communion wine. Mass hierarchical systems tend to be threatened by easy access to direct transcendental, spiritual experience. The mysteries at Eleusis were tolerated because even if run by women, it was something reserved for the elite. Several prominent Romans believed it was the most important thing binding humanity together, the kukeon. The Immortality Key is a great read if you want the specifics.
But pornography? That’s comes from Ancient Greek meaning the depiction of prostitution. And who did Jesus actually put in charge and was closest to? A former prostitute turned pharmacist
They called them witches later on and burned them. The Holy Roman Empire (modern day German speaking Europe) established a purity law in 1516 , which made illicit the making of beer that was too interesting. You know that label on German beer to this day “brewed in accordance with the purity law of 1516”?
I guess compulsory clothing for ownership of women or even uniformed wageslaves, social status, ect. Is a characteristic of the veil. If all are seen as oneself then, rape, slaves, non equality should not be things.
I think one of the primary things that poisoned Earth was the idea of money and money being power and that being status, which was/is paramount. I see nothing wrong with erotic art, be it film of actual intercourse or not. But the unhealthy dynamics between male and female and love of money rather than love of love or even just base pleasure certainly has tainted it and associated it with some unfortunate circumstances and abuse.
If I die and all I see are clothed spirits though, I’m going to take my clothes off, develop goat legs and priapism and BRING BACK THE MAENADS!
As for the intention to view nudity against compulsory clothes. I’d say the internet has ameliorated that to an extent many find quite addictive.
Thank you for discussing these interesting topics.
In the evolutionary archetypes are many male
and female depictions that may attempt to
emphasize purely feminine or masculine traits
interpreted singularly, or a sexual tension interplay
interpreted together.
Today I consider the Lovers as a Caduceus,
this winged staff symbol of two coiling snakes
ascending. I ponder this idea of the pursuit of
love alternating with the pursuit of wisdom in
some way affording balanced ascension.
The Lovers depiction might depict one woman
bundled heavy as smarter than the other bundled
shear as sexier, but maybe I have that mixed up,
the skimpy dressed is smarter and the heavy
dressed one is sexier.
The Veil in most of the Law of One context
relates to the idea of a split between conscious
and unconscious in a way that promotes a
greater strength of polarization than can
otherwise be achieved.
For example, if we are already aware from some
greater vantage of things going on, we may hold
less desire to say take initiative and reach out
toward evolutionary experience which may in
the end strengthen polarity more than say doing
nothing. In a sense, the Veil emboldens our
desire to experience those things desired, and
so evolve catalytically faster than not.
In some way I think of pornography as some
1d art form creation, and the people who create
it as infinite creators no different than so many
creators out there. I would imagine it is highly
successful art, billions of dollars of commerce
every year going on.
I think a large part of this success is that the
physiology of men is visually cued to get sexually
turned on, and being a sexually frustrated man
be a state inferior to a state of sexual satiation.
This may be a personal choice, that some men
feel sexual hunger and frustration is wonderful.
This touches on the point of free will - that having
lots of sex, porno cued or otherwise, may be
tantric in nature which can be difficult to say
is either good or bad - best for each individual
to decide. I think part of this gets back to the
idea of love and wisdom balance, if you’re to
heavy on either side, you can become in some
way imbalanced to breaking points.
I think as alternative to using 1d art forms as
meditation seed thoughts - it is possible to
use 6d or 7d seed thoughts for sexual meditation.
I believe that spiritual sex with the Sun might
be possible - and that may be the top of the
staff of the caduceus from some lowly 3d
incarnation to reach, a sort of soul fire path;
the snakes as kundalini sexual energy that
is somehow unleashed unpredictably, like
some fusion of chaos and order going on.
Thank you. I will put quotes here as appropriate to my opinion. Also, I think your analogy with caduceus is correct. By the way, maybe Potentiator of the Body is holding it.
(I don’t know if Ra is talking here about all fifth-density entities, looks like yes)
62.21Questioner: When the Orion entity who waits us seeking the opportunity to attack is with us here can you describe his method of coming here, what he looks like, and how he waits? I know that this isn’t too important, but it might give me a little insight into what we are talking about.
Ra: I am Ra. Fifth-density entities are very light beings although they do have the type of physical vehicle which you understand. Fifth-density entities are very fair to look upon in your standard of beauty.
84.19Questioner: … I am trying to understand, to use a poor term, how this veiling process created a greater experience and how this experience evolved, shall I say. The questions are very difficult at times to ask.
It occurs to me that many statues or drawings of the one known as Lucifer or the Devil is shown with an erection. Is this a function of this orange-ray blockage, and was this, shall we say, known by, in some minimal way, you might say, by those who devised these statues and drawings etc.?
Ra: I am Ra. There is, of course, much other distortion involved in a discussion of any mythic archetypical form. However, we may answer in the affirmative and note that you are perceptive.
Another idea there that may be relevant but
may have been missed, is the idea that 1d
art forms can act as seed thoughts of energetic
transfer.
Oddly as it sounds, a simple message typed
by a writer may be read by a reader in some
way that their minds synch to a point that
energetic transfer takes place.
If you write in very large public forums,
for example writing jokes in a forum full of
comedians - this becomes obvious because
you feel the hilarity beyond any conventional
explanation. It’s rock star energy.
What I’m proposing is that pornography,
like poetry - can act as a 1d linking mechanism
where people connect via picture or video or
phone or whatever.
Is phone sex a thing? Maybe picture sex
or video sex isn’t that different, there’s like
a synching of the minds on some scale
beyond comprehension.
Please keep in mind that Ra on Venus
was focused on sexual energy transfer,
it may be odd to them that humanity is
more focused on monetary energy
transfer.
But is monetary transfer that much
different than sexual energy transfer -
don’t they both represent life energy?
I think we may feel that we are money
saints but reality suggests we’re sluts.
I wonder what wear in higher densities but I guess it should be OK both
I theorize that apparel starts to adopt a more magickal application and less oriented towards hiding and abiding, as we move up through the densities.
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