Link to a non-Law of One person’s very intricate description of the purpose of the veil and certain mechanics near the bottom (or bottom middle) if you’d prefer to skip my commentary.
It’s stated in the Law of One that some Logoses (Logii? no that’s Latin, not sure what the plural is, don’t speak Greek), anyway it’s stated that some Logos did not use the veil. Though I might be somewhat wiser in certain out of body states with more mind in play and less brain (psychedelics actually lower brain region activity though you feel much more… expanded- meditation, particular with certain frequencies and binaural beats entraining one’s brain waves can accomplish the same, as you might surmise by my name though I have traditionally preferred accomplishing OBEs via meditation that’s chemically enhanced… more dangerous, but A LOT easier), in my states fully enmeshed in the annoying limiting filtration device that is the physical brain and body, I’m not a fan of the veil. Carla wrote in her book that, “complaining is allowed my children”- and I complain to my higher self A LOT. I “female dog” (filter…) to it most nights.
With the lack of the veil progress did not proceed very fast through third density, but there were, in simple terms, no jerks and you could do things like turn physical pain off at will. My egoic, brain perspective has always thought that would be much preferable. Slower, but we have infinite “time”, so it just seems kinder to sober, non-meditating little “m” me. What exactly is the rush if time isn’t even real?
" Ra: I am Ra. The anger of separation is impossible without the veil ."
With the interview I’ll link, it does certainly appear that incarnation is not exactly the most pleasant of experiences- incarnation with the veil in place anyway. You think you can handle it and then apparently many go, “oh F no, I’m not going to feel like this for a whole human life!” “This” being just being in our current, relatively unconnected a lower vibrational/denser, clunky forms.
" Questioner: Is the veil supposed to be what I would call semi-permeable?
Ra: I am Ra. The veil is indeed so."
Well apparently the veil isn’t just permeable in life (or out of body, but coming back), if this interview is to be believed- the veil being a lead blanket or swiss cheese in a given incarnation can apparently be decided PRE-incarnatively. And the interview sounds truthful- all talking about this stuff does is make most people view you as crazy or the dogmatically religious- religious, not spiritual- declare you as some sort of heretic… hades, even law of one believing people have thought I’m insane for providing certain accounts, as accurate as I can translate into English "linguistic visible electromagnetic radiation vibrational complexes, of my own experiences.
Beyond those trying to sell books or spirituality courses on the internet (looking at you, creepy guy on youtube with that fake humble but really obvious cult leader and financial aspirations “guru” that likes to talk about Ra stuff), people describing such spiritual experiences and outlooks have no logical sts/ego motive I can think of, given that almost EVEY SINGLE one of the genuine seeming NDE reports and related spiritual experience descriptions seem to (and most of them have never heard of the Ra material) backup the basic ideas of the LoL. Everyone being equal and having free will is not exactly the best spiritual material to build your typical cult or hippy harem out of… It’s a running joke I have with myself when I listen to an honest-seeming NDE report or OBE report or ego death psychedelic trip about how tonight’s report is inexplicably going to backup major aspects of the LoL.
For someone that spent 30 years as a scientific materialist, the existence of the spirit and consciousness making the physical is insane/paradigm-shattering enough, but it’s endlessly amusing that personal and testimonial evidence overwhelmingly indicates that the “one true religion” (that phrase is a slight joke) turned out to be the one with interdimensional aliens, underground yetis, and government UFOS (which whistleblowers in the United States sure are confirming lately, though it’s almost certainly a "limited hangout)! The spiritual philosophy with the very slow forums when I could go talk about my favorite saints with a billion Christians if I was more into the Bible (though it sure does have some lines that make a bit of strange hidden sense with what I’ve learned/been through the past year or so). The multiverse certainly has a sense of humor.
Anyway, apparently one reason the veil is actually desired (not by the earth or solar logos, but by the third density spirit) is apparently the contrast between just existing as we do now and what it’s like being fully connected to the universal mind or love web or god or whatever you want to call is so galling that it can make one “NOPE” out of this realm pretty quick. So it can be better, if you want to do an incarnation to think that this state is all there is and not have that point of comparison. I wonder if this is why I apparently tried to strangle myself with my umbilical cord in the womb? hahaha. I certainly am NEVER desirous of returning to my physical body with all its annoyances when meditation on a high dose of psychedelics comes to an end…
I like the video game comparisons made in the above interview. From my limited perspective, can’t say I’d EVER program a game where you “level up” by suffering. Choosing an incarnation with a severe physical illness on purpose… to get points in the “game”. This is not a game I’d program, there’s some perversity in this Infinite Creator entity if you ask me.
Interestingly, I’ve discovered some seemingly reliable methods to communicate with something, I was sure it was aliens in former posts, but frankly I cannot know for sure. Maybe angels like making lights in the sky too. Supposedly I CHOSE to be a drug addict in this incarnation. Not by choosing to indulge while alive, but pre-incarnatively. Which lines up with my preternatural ability to consume amounts and combinations which the majority of doctors would claim would be sure to kill me… my higher self isn’t letting me off that easy! I’m my own worst enemy and best friend.
Here’s another good channel with NDE interviews- The Other Side NDE - YouTube
Even in the pretty uninteresting (in my view) ones where it’s a stereotypical heaven type deal and then there’s a culturally stereotypical “god” or “Jesus” entity, they still get told everything’s connected, by the way, reincarnation is real, blah, blah, blah. But there’s some stranger ones that I’d hypothesize are from wanderers of different originating densities and some really interesting ones with quantum science “sci fi” experiences. The forms the fragments of the creator running all this can appear to you in are specific to each individual entity’s cultural comforts and seeming level of spiritual evolution. But it’s ALWAYS the same Law of One basic concepts if you know what to look for…
I’m not going to be specific about certain of my experiences anymore (besides with a select few loved ones) as the positive entities really like their mystery and seem to prefer that I not run my mouth too much about certain things- once I thought to ask them somewhat recently. Nothing can say things that are technically true in multiple somewhat deep philosophical ways but way too vague to really help decision processes beyond “love is preferable to not-love” like a light-being (be they interdimensional aliens as I originally assumed or whatever)! They’d have quite the career, if they needed dead president paper in the illusion, at writing fortune cookies!
But I’ve certainly thought that this all seems more and more like a video game and the limited me is the avatar. So we come to the situation where I become interested in this sort of spiritual information and I listen to these NDE reports on headphones while playing first person shooter games. Listening to to fantastic stories about how to be more loving in the video game called “Human”, while I paradoxically provide service (to those that want to play the game) by trying to shoot other-selves in the head.
Video games within video games. The creator FRACTALING. Turtles all the way down! If I’m a part of the creator though, I figure I should have “admin privileges’” for my own fragment’s “code”- I’ll keep bothering my higher self to change the parameters so that I can indulge in drugs without side effects or withdrawal, I feel like that would make this video game more fun, me more able to be of service to others, and better entice me to keep playing besides my ties to my loved ones, mmm, tying me down out of love/duty/loyalty to what apparently is really crap compared to what I hear about time/space. I don’t want to control others, I just want to mod my own playthrough a bit. Well, a lot. Oh well, I guess my lack of enthusiasm for the MMORPG Suffer Quest is why I’ve been stuck on this planet so, so, so long rather than back with a certain non-human or Earthly past self revealed to me a while ago!
Ra: These people come from the same place as you or I. They come from the Creator.
As you intend the question, in its shallower aspect, these people are those in your and other-selves’ governments responsible for what you would term national security.
Questioner: How have they been able to keep this a secret? Why aren’t these craft in use for transport?
Ra: The governments of each of your societal division illusions desire to refrain from publicity so that the surprise may be retained in case of hostile action from what your peoples call enemies."
There truly is no “common sense” to fall back on to determine veracity anymore.
Oh well, regardless of my loved ones keeping me incarnated here via love/duty- (don’t take this negatively, I have empathy for anything sentient that has the fortune or misfortune of being stuck among what I see as a tragic comedy), I am morbidly curious to see how this third density human story ends. The global one.
Off topic- but does anyone feel like things are getting pretty weird lately? Try clearing your mind and sending love energy for lack of a better word into someone receptive with your hand on them. For extra fun, have them touch you and do the same back to you. It feels good. A tingling in your feet and up your hands. Good for fear, pain, depression. I certainly never used to be able to do that before, not in this life. And the amount of apparent thinking the exact same thing as my mate without speaking to her or her to me is just getting insane. Sharing feelings across a distance. One thing effecting the other without the other knowing about it in the traditional sense. This is starting to feel like a two person social memory complex. And it’s very weird. Plus so many people coming out with NDEs and weird experiences.
I’ve seen a few news articles about yetis lately too.
"‘I can’t describe or understand how we spoke, because - well because it sounds unbelievable. It felt like we heard each other’s thoughts, as if it was telepathy.’ "
Of course… they’re telepathic. Because all the seemingly insane stuff is apparently true nowadays.
" Questioner: Is there any particular race of people on our planet now who were incarnated here from second density?
Ra: I am Ra. There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on your sphere at this time. However, there are two races which use the second-density form. One is the entities of the planetary sphere you call Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through a series of what you would call karmic restitutions. They dwell within your deeper underground passageways and are known to you as “Bigfoot.”
In summation- “…”
I sort of feel like sometime at the start of 2020 I took a thumbprint of LSD and it never wore off, which is why all the weird stuff is apparently real now. Have the past few years just been a hallucination I’ve been having in a mental institution? It sure feels like it sometimes.