You mean that for example feline extraterrestrial beings are also made in the image of God (the Infinite Creator)?
That’s similar to the ankh in ancient Egypt. The difference is that the crux ansata has a circle instead of a loop as in the ankh (crux ansata can also mean the same as ankh). I made some far-fetched connections between the ankh and the removal of the veil between the conscious and the unconscious mind. That the loop represents kundalini first reaching the crown chakra and then looping back into the heart again. So yes, I guess it can be seen as “spirit enlivening matter” since lifting the veil reveals the original thought in its original form.
Much depends on interpretation. I, for example, interpret it as that God has given us his qualities, including mainly the spiritual ones. I believe that we come from the body of God, the spiritual body, and physicality is not the key here.
I support your opinion about the fact that there is no randomness in Creation. If Creation is the result of a plan, then there can’t be any true randomness in it, because it would be incompatible with the rest of existence and would collapse the whole Creation. There can only be “programmed randomness,” in a given “area” of Creation, except that it is something else than “randomness”, this is more like “repetitive patterns,” such as the weather is for instance.
If the universe is based on balance, then it might as well be the case, in another part of the universe, that it is some reptilian race that has a similar structure to us (in terms of spiritual-energetical) and is currently working on the transition to the 4th Density, and humanoid beings lived before them and are known partly in their science, as great giants resembling great apes, like the big Foot, only larger in size reaching 7-8 meters in height, for example. If the goal of the Creator is to know himself, I believe Creator will seek all possible ways to experience himself at the every level of Densities and at the every physical form Creator can take (if Density is physical in some way), not only in humanoid form. I think.
As for genetic mutations (and issues of species extinction or development), I believe they are based on viruses and other microorganism and three main situations can occur in the context of changes in DNA:
- mechanical - these are negative and the organism will simply seek to restore the status quo.
- environmental - external stimuli trigger the built-in mechanisms in us that naturally work to change DNA.
- from the influences of the 4 Density - the 4D STS and STO can affect our physicality by sending “greetings.”
Point 1) This is already happening in our human labs. All that is left is to say “Forgive them, Father! They don’t know what they are doing.”
Point 2), 3) Those built-in mechanisms and influence from 4th Density are I am relating to the viruses. Those viruses/microorganisms that are already in us can be inactive, some work for us, some can work in our future. And there is other portion of viruses, those that can be send from the 4th Density (either benefiting us or harming us). The idea of “greetings” may be partly related to the existence of viruses (and other microorganisms), because the viruses is almost just information and can easily be manifest in physicality.
As we know, 4th Density can affect our physicality, causing various paranormal effects, including making real changes to our body, sometimes various scratches, burns, in addition, creating foul odors, manifest of vermin, or create temporarily stable physical forms of themselves, what is experienced during encounters with demons/aliens (4D STS). These are, of course, very clear signs.
But what about subtleties like viruses? The temporarily dispatched matter to the 3D may not be them physically (4D) but may be for instance a retrovirus targeting human’s DNA created by them in 4D, and will simply disappear having made the changes beforehand. If they are able to go into our world, or move some solid object (like some kind of spaceship) that will be visible and stable here for a while, then they will be even more able to send the virus.
It gets interesting if you know today’s scientific research, you can read, among other things, that retroviruses change human DNA, they are able to transfer part of their code to human DNA. Now imagine that 4D STS carries a retrovirus that is 4D matter. It may exist here temporarily. It melds with the human DNA, changes the DNA code, and then dissipates into thin air, behaving just like any other 4D object or entity, fully or partly, temporarily manifested here, it will just disappear.
The microbiota plays a fundamental role in regulating host immunity. However, the processes involved in the initiation and regulation of immunity to the microbiota remain largely unknown. Here, we show that the skin microbiota promotes the discrete expression of defined endogenous retroviruses (ERVs). Keratinocyte-intrinsic responses to ERVs depended on cyclic GMP-AMP synthase (cGAS)/stimulator of interferon genes protein (STING) signaling and promoted the induction of commensal-specific T cells. Inhibition of ERV reverse transcription significantly impacted these responses, resulting in impaired immunity to the microbiota and its associated tissue repair function. Conversely, a lipid-enriched diet primed the skin for heightened ERV- expression in response to commensal colonization, leading to increased immune responses and tissue inflammation. Together, our results support the idea that the host may have co-opted its endogenous virome as a means to communicate with the exogenous microbiota, resulting in a multi-kingdom dialog that controls both tissue homeostasis and inflammation. Source: https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(21)00650-4?_returnURL=https%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0092867421006504%3Fshowall%3Dtrue
I’m neither a scientist nor a biologist, and I can’t process everything that’s out there on my own. However, if this research is legit, then I understand that something significant is coming out of it. The above suggests that viruses are responsible for the behavior of our organisms, which affects the entire process of adaptation to new environmental conditions as the presence of various pathogens. If we are under the influence of the right viruses, including the appropriate DNA changes that they can cause, we will gain a whole system that recognizes and counteracts pathogenic threats, or, on the contrary, viruses can completely disable our defenses, that we will be “thrown to the ground” deprived of any protection.
Well, if I have to choose, I’d like to get as many “greetings” from 4D STO as possible and as little as possible from 4D STS, because at the physical level these greetings can be followed by viruses manifested here in 3D. I don’t know what can stop certain viruses from incubating in us, and what can attract others and let them live in us and work for us. The only thing that comes to my mind is the issue of polarity, because then we kind of relate part of our being to future us in 4th Density or to those beings who inhabit there and that is 4D STO if we polarize in STO, and 4D STS when we polarize with STS.
Working on the polarity can create the right aura of protection and support that contacted us to the 4th Density Earth. In this case, the psychic “greetings” from 4D STS can be blocked and prevent the manifestation of various microorganisms, from those who affected our senses to those very dangerous to us. In turn, if our polarity is positive, we can connect with the 4D STO, and thus allow them to manifest their microorganisms giving us protection here in 3 Density and turbo charging our evolutionary process in order to not to end up like dinosaurs.
Basically, when everyone thinks about the arrival of aliens, they see spaceships and so on. When in fact the world of microorganisms offers incredible potential for physical conquest. I think if we are to consider contact with other alien civilizations and invasions. This will take place on the spiritual and mental plane and physically at the level of microorganisms, where this spirituality (and spiritual work or lack of it) is combined with physicality (immunity and the possibility of development or lack of this immunity and probably death).
That’s where my controversial viewpoint comes in. I believe that the universe is optimizing uniqueness to prevent dull repetitions which can be seen as a lack of intelligence. Love and intelligence promote uniqueness is what I think. That’s doesn’t mean making everything as different as possible. For example having humans with a height from 1 inch tall to 30 feet tall, that’s a lot of uniqueness albeit an incompatible one. The uniqueness also needs to be sustainable and promote higher forms of organisms such as social memory complexes.
That’s why I believe that the human body is a universal template. A society and culture based on for instance reptilian beings is largely incompatible with humans and in the long run prevents the development of larger whole social structures. Higher density beings I assume can shapeshift into all kinds of forms, including reptilians and even dragons, but their original form is human is my current guess.
I understand. It actually sounds quite reasonable and I think you could even convince me. After all, there must be some sort of optimization system in the cosmos, otherwise the cosmos would be repeating the same unnecessary patterns endlessly, instead of looking for some sort of “cosmic consensus.” And that “cosmic consensus” could be like what your are writing. I was referring to balance in my previous post, however, the kind of optimization you are proposing can in principle exist as a derivative of balance. That is, as a result of work of the law of balance, balance the “cosmic garbage” of Creation, creating some sort of golden mean - that would be that optimization system. Overall, I like your way of thinking and think that I understand you.
Yes, balance between all kinds of things, or even between all things. That requires infinite intelligence for it to be sustainable for billions of years for the entire universe/multiverse. I’m amazed at how well Ra’s explanations easily fit into the big picture. The original thought is very different from today’s mainstream view of a random Big Bang. I believe the Big Bang theory is somewhat correct, that as some physicists have proposed that our universe is a white hole of a black hole in a parent universe (the previous octave as I see it). And most physicists it seems agree that the universe has very fine-tune constants. What they can’t explain yet in my opinion is the increase of complexity in the universe over time. Physicists instead talk about an increase of entropy, which means increase of disorder haha.
I used to think about what are the fundations under the whole existence, and I came to something like that, which I called someday Natural Nothingness. I created this based on the definition of Oneness (Ra), Zero Point Energy (from quantum physics) and a mathematical representation of a certain paradox where: 0 = Infinity, plus based on my own imagination.
Natural Nothingness (NN) is, for me, perfectly full vacuum (in the material and spiritual sense, in every sense in fact). The paradox that combines the void and the full into one, thereby giving the void a value, giving the void the meaning of something full. As the value of fullness coincides with the void, it is impossible to determine by the NN of the real value itself as it spreads out into nothingness/void. In this case it requires distortion from itself.
And the only possible state it can distort is to lean towards introspection, because at this stage Natural Nothingness is alone with itself, so only with itself can it do something. NN’s introspection is simply becoming aware of itself existence (this would correspond to the First Distortion, the emergence of Will/Consciousness).
Also I extended it to other things. One thing I noticed is that that it is wrong to think of Natural Nothingness as something that is opposed to existence, because it is already full in some way, instead it is correct to think of “stillness” and “quiescence.” At the fundation existence would be quiescence, and it is only movement of energy developed by consciousness that makes us have something what we can call creation (regardless of what it is, what matters now is that there is something). In the case of the Confederation there is mention of the 2nd Distortion, and it was the energy of Consciousness aka Love that powerfully impel everything into giving them their respective structures: create the universe.
Why does Consciousness, thanks to First Distortion, have at its disposal the infinite potential of this Natural Nothingness/quiescence/full void/Oneness? As Nothingness does not contain the idea of limiting anything, Will/Consciousness can distort anything it wants from Natural Nothingness/Oneness, and in this way it chooses the most optimal and convenient way out for itself, and this is the distortion of infinite potential to be used. This can be related to the filtering out of fullness from the full void that Natural Nothingness is. In terms of Confederations, this would correspond to distortions 2nd and 3rd: Infinite Love and Light.
How else did I think about it in terms of polarization for instance. Well here movement/distortion/love energy/creation would be positively polarized versus negatively polarized stillness/quiescence/lack of energy/nothingness.
I agree if the term is no-thing-ness. For all things, if they are divided into smaller and smaller parts, it’s difficult to see how the smallest part is some thing. The way I solved it is to have all of reality being a web of only relations. The same as Indra’s net without the “jewels”.
Ra called it plenum instead of nothing somewhere. That’s a good term I think. Plenum means “a space completely filled with matter, or the whole of space so regarded” and in my case instead of matter it’s completely filled with relations.
It’s like a complete graph:
And with the number of points going to infinity, it quickly becomes like a plenum. Here is a complete graph with 50 points:
And I think of the original thought as an intelligent pattern within the web of relations that expands into infinity. So it’s still all One and it’s just that the original thought is the intelligent infinity part.
Yes, Plenum - a good phrase. I think it is worth remembering and using it.
As for the graph. This is a good one. We have a point, that’s what we start with, and so we start with One. If we look from above at the Infinity of these points, we also have One point with the fact that infinite connections between its infinite parts. So from the Oneness of the One point, we go through a manifold of points that eventually form the Oneness in the Infinity of connections.
We start in One, go through Infinity, ending in One. That’s how I understand it at least. I think this is one way of interpreting the entire One and Infinite Intelligent Creation (also the Creator itself which is all there is) and it’s an additional brick to understand it all.
Starting from infinity, that was a new approach to me, I will have to think about that. I was thinking of it as starting from a only one relation, a self-relation, like the ouroboros, a snake/dragon biting its own tail in a circle.
That’s just one relation. But when seeing that circle as a dot there is an additional relation between the dot and itself. And then making the second relation a dot there are now two dots with a relation between them. And then in the third step the relation between the dots becomes a new dot and so on causing an explosion of a complete graph into infinity.

Wen will the expansion of that web of relations end? The answer is: never! Because there is no highest number. This in my opinion is what produces the movement of time and the arrow of time.
I haven’t looked into much about what Ra means by time/space. I found this answer by Ra which indicates that time/space is the reality directly from the original thought. And space/time is our ordinary physical reality. And it also points to how changes in time/space directly affect our physical reality. This is very different from how we humans in third density operate where we make changes on the physical level instead of from the level of true cause which is time/space.
66.14 Questioner: Would you explain that last comment about the configuration in time/space?
Ra: I am Ra. Healing is done in the time/space portion of the mind/body/spirit complex, is adopted by the form-making or etheric body, and is then given to the space/time physical illusion for use in the activated yellow-ray mind/body/spirit complex. It is the adoption of the configuration which you call health by the etheric body in time/space which is the key to what you call health, not any event which occurs in space/time. In this process you may see the transdimensional aspect of what you call will, for it is the will, the seeking, the desire of the entity which causes the indigo body to use the novel configuration and to reform the body which exists in space/time. This is done in an instant and may be said to operate without regard to time. We may note that in the healing of very young children there is often an apparent healing by the healer in which the young entity has no part. This is never so, for the mind/body/spirit complex in time/space is always capable of willing the distortions it chooses for experience no matter what the apparent age, as you call it, of the entity.
Here Ra is talking about accessing the original thought (intelligent infinity) more directly:
Ra: I am Ra. … With this connection made, a request may be given. The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rock-ness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity.
In this way, that which is required is accomplished due to the cooperation of the infinite understanding of the Creator indwelling in the living rock. This is, of course, the mechanism by which many things are accomplished which are not subject to your present means of physical analysis of action at a distance.
Ra is of 6th density. In third density the living and intelligent aspect of physical matter is very veiled. Even in fourth density there are probably lots of limitations on what’s possible. It may still be interesting to explore the possibilities in third density and experiment with connecting to earth as a fourth density planet. To me trying to control the external world through the original thought seems doubtful from third density. What I’m more interested in is how much of one’s own physical body can be changed. Not just things similar to the placebo effect. Even more advanced alternations of one’s physical body may be possible through accessing the original thought directly, through the veil.
Connecting to the intelligence in the living rock as Ra talked about is an extreme version of using the original thought. Even improving one’s own physical body by connecting to the original thought through the veil seems difficult from third density. How to achieve something like that?
And if as I theorize that reality is always finite since infinity can’t be reached in its manifested form, how can the original thought be intelligent infinity? This can be explained by the original thought being both in motion and also containing all of time, past, present and future simultaneously. That’s the intelligent infinity. And with access to that intelligence even our third density reality is in theory possible to alter even if only in small ways.
One method to use is visualization. To visualize what change is wanted and then see if it happens sooner or later. Time is more fluid in time/space and changes can even be instantaneous. But what changes to visualize as an experiment? The idea came to me that even what to visualize can be something that comes from the original thought instead of trying to figure it out with one’s veiled mind. And then the practice becomes to simply wait for that to happen, at some time only known to the original thought.
I think you are correct. Controlling the external world is a different path than Ra teaches. The sense I get is that path of light here on our highly variegated planet leads to a very deep communion with both Earth and with heaven so that, rather than controlling, one functions as a lover and as a partner with energies around one. Such acts as you refer to are sacraments rather than exercises in power and control.
You probably know this already. I’m just pointing it out because it is a key point, as I view it.
There’s a thesis from Ra that looks like a contradiction with another one and I want to ask about it later. Here’s the quote. It’s not about control, but about external world. I don’t have formed opinion to say.
41.14 Questioner: Is this energy center, then, on a very small scale related to the orange energy center in man?
Ra: … The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray. This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self. Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.
However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.
The green ray is associated with oneness. Ra is saying that there are people moving into the green ray who reject yellow-ray activities, not because of rejecting social interactions but to move away from veiled activities. That’s my interpretation. Third density social interactions are a product of the veil, and green-ray activation is as I see it the lifting of the veil, and there is then a moving away from the veiled state, including away from governmental and societal activities because they are conflict-ridden when there is a lack of green ray heart connection. A person with activated heart center needs to connect with other people with activated heart center.
Edit: I see now that Ra also said: “However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.”
So if those people haven’t developed the yellow ray properly, it’s a reversion back to the orange ray and not a green ray state.
The idea about green-ray activated people rejecting social and governmental veiled activities I think is true, even if that is not what Ra was referring to here.
Ra said that there is also negative time/space. That makes it more complicated since then the original thought at the foundational level of love is prior to time/space. One interpretation is to think of negative time/space as what is called the lower astral in New Age and in esoteric teachings, and positive time/space as the upper astral.
My idea is that the lower astral is a result of the veil. There are also negatively polarized beings in higher densities according to Ra. And that means that those beings have penetrated the veil as I understand it. They can still use the lower astral for manipulation purposes, and even more powerfully so when they know how it works in relation to the veil.
Do I believe in higher density negative beings? Sort of. I think that those negative beings in 4th density and higher serve as catalysts mainly for beings still in third density. Almost like the “fallen angels” concept in religions.
Doubting in everything maybe the main reason why I consider Ra’s materials true is because it’s not “standard” interpretation of negative what was natural for me before reading Ra. All teachings I know are saying it’s like a higher-lower concept, while Ra say negative also develops. Aaron Abke has a good video about it.
And more to the point, I think, is that they would develop all the way back to being the One Creator if that were possible. But the concept of STS was not planned for in the design of this Octave. We are told it was never even imagined before being experienced. So it happens that after reaching mid 6d, the negative entity cannot progress further on that path, and since each of us have the in-built desire to evolve all the way, they cannot simply remain there and be content. Hence why they release their polarity in order to move on.
In a way negative polarized entities are similar to us humans in third density! In both cases the green-ray heart connection is missing.
Ra talked about full green-ray activation and there can be partial green-ray activation. Humans on earth today that are aligned towards service-to-others are moving into the direction of green-ray activation and can have some of the green ray heart center activated.
63.25 Questioner: Then at some time in the future the fourth-density sphere will be fully activated. What is the difference between full activation and partial activation for this sphere?
Ra: I am Ra. At this time the cosmic influxes are conducive to true-color green core particles being formed and material of this nature thus being formed. However, there is a mixture of the yellow-ray and green-ray environments at this time necessitating the birthing of transitional mind/body/spirit complex types of energy distortions. At full activation of the true-color green density of love the planetary sphere will be solid and inhabitable upon its own and the birthing that takes place will have been transformed through the process of time, shall we say, to the appropriate type of vehicle to appreciate in full the fourth-density planetary environment. At this nexus the green-ray environment exists to a far greater extent in time/space than in space/time.
The green ray also allows for a collective unity. I don’t know what Ra means by spiritual gravity. The term sounds appropriate for how people moving into the green ray will gravitate towards each other, and maybe even form the proto state of a service-to-others social memory complex. Something that could very well already exist on earth today! It’s just that we don’t recognize it until our own green ray heart center has become activated enough.


