yes, but don’t forget what difficulties negative entities face in order to maintain their polarity. therefore, against the background of this, a lot of intelligence is required, and therefore more knowledge
Difficulty is relative, what easy for you is not easy for me, what easy for me might not be easy for you. But entities will tend to follow the path which their ‘collected biases’ lead them.
Example:
- Forgiving is easy for Jesus, even towards his enemy. Such act will be very difficult for other entities, especially negative entities.
- Seeking revenge is easy for negative entities, it’s however very difficult to maintain such laser sharp focus and dedication on anger and hatred for positive entities.
There’s no right or wrong, both (STO and STS) are valid path for polarization.
you would be right if it were possible to return to 8th density both ways, that is if the negative entity could become 7th density separately
but as you can see so far there is no such thing, all entities are forced to come to one path. and the negative path to me so far appears to be an attempt to “go against the tide”
i think negative entities stay negative simply because they find themselves in it. as Ra wrote, they just find a night beautiful
Yes actually it is.
Using the metaphor of hiking a mountain, one took right the other took the left path.
Both path lead to the same destination as there’s only one peak.
6th density is the merging point of both path just before reaching the peak.
Service To Others also ultimately lead to Service To Self. Why?
Because actually there is no others, all is self. Separation is merely a temporary illusion.
When others do not exist, how could there be Service To Others?
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i agree with you on this one
the nature of that god that is “outside our universe” is mysterious. by that I mean that no matter how much you evolve, you still come to understand the nature of infinity
but you know what, I’ll tell you if there is a connection between universes, then maybe there is a way to get into the seventh density. Ra said he didn’t know about such entities, but what if it was possible
i’ve read insiders who say that returning to eighth density is available from the beginning to any being, and that going through the densities is not only one way to come back to eighth density, and there are other ways
Ra didn’t talk about it directly, but reading Ra it seemed to me in some places that he was talking about unorthodox ways to reach intelligent infinity, i.e. eighth density. for example, remember Ra’s phrase about “passport”
in short, if you go the orthodox way, you have to go up through the densities, and then you will inevitably be waiting for the sixth density with its unity, that is, no negative path. but if you choose other paths, then the negative side can go back to the eighth density
so that there is no misunderstanding, i will make it clear
in my text i wondered why in the orthodox way (i.e. we are talking about the basic way) there is no explicit and openly expressed freedom for the negative path, i.e. why for example there are also no negative teachers of the seventh density who would teach the entities of the sixth density
it is as if the universe itself wants the entity to choose the path of service to others
Hello Dima and Others 
Infinity is not exactly what Creator/God is. But everything in order and a little bit… 
Let me share my knowledge and point of view based on channeling with Confederation.
God/Creator is not outside the Universe. Creator/God is the living Universe and is its source at the same time. The Creator emerged from the 8 Density and is itself the 7 Density, this 7 Density constitutes the entire Universe, which is divided into 7 Densities from 1 to 7, where by analogy and metaphor we can say that the 1 Density is the Creator’s feet, and the 7 Density is the Creator’s head, and for example the 4 Density is the Creator’s heart.
All of this is One Being/7 Density/Creator/God, who emerged from 8 Density in an undefined way and is heading back to 8 Density, transforming constantly in the Octave between 1 and 7 Density.
According to my understanding and knowledge of the material, the Universe is One, as well as One is the Creator/God/7 Density. Perhaps there are other Universe/Creators who emerged from the 8th Density. However, the Confederation does not speak of this. They speak about One Universe and possible moves between Octaves, the Octaves in this case can be “Other Universes” - unless that’s what you mean.
Transitioning to any Density is always possible and for everyone. There are no contraindications, for example, to reach the 6th Density even right now, in a few seconds. It is all related to work on consciousness, which can always be undertaken, everything is related to changes in consciousness, for which everyone has the resources.
But in practice, these changes occur gradually over many incarnations and gradually over several Densities. However, it is theoretically possible to make this leap in a few moments if one finds this path within consciousness and make move into any Density is possible.
Intelligent Infinity is God aka Universe aka Creator aka 7th Density. 8th Density is mysterious The One, which can be represented as Zero, which has no limits. It is “Nothing” which at the same time has no limits, no blockades, no imposed form, and is completely open and infinite. It does constitute itself as nothing, yet at the same time it cannot limit anything, such as the existing of the Creator and creation/life.
8th Density graphically can be expressed as a Central Black Hole that pulls everything in, to then turn into and manifesting as the Central Sun or Creator/7th Density and disperse all that it has pulled in. This moment between pulling everything in and dispersing everything, that is, this moment between the Central Black Hole melding with the Central Sun and being in perfect equilibrium, can be described as a single point and considered as enigmatic and mysterious: The One.
And what constitutes The One in its pure undistorted single “form” is the Plenum, which can be referred to as infinitely small and tightly located “matter” (not necessarily matter in the physical sense, but really everything, including spiritual “matter”).
At the 8th Density level there is no polarization, just as there is “nothing.” All recognizable creation exists in the form of distortions and constitutes something that is. 7 Density also has no division into polarization, but the situation is slightly different than in 8 Density.
7 Density has no division into polarities, because there is “only one polarity”, that is, there is only positivity, in the sense that this positivity does not gain validation in the form of opposing its negative polarity, and exists only as dissipation, love, as an endless act of creation, uninhibited fountain of light and love expressed outside, as the constant open infinity and intelligent source.
The 7th Density/Creator manifests from 8th Density, that is “non-existence.” 8th Density is an unknown mystery to us and we only see its effect, in 3rd Density it manifests as a black hole that sucks in cosmic matter. Direct examination is impossible, so the Creator distorts it, creates love and the desire to know Himself/Herself/Itself, makes an explosion of light and love outside, disturbing the balance and distorting it in which the 8th Density/The One naturally finds itself.
At the 7th Density level it can be said that there is only positive polarity or that there are no polarities at all. This is what distinguishes Densities 7 from Densities 3 and 6, where the polarities are emphasized.
6 Density is also highlighted by polarization, but it must be taken into account that for those with negative polarization it is work to gain positive polarization and balance it with Knowledge obtained through development in previous Densities and being able to make the transition to 7 Density thanks this transformation (gaining balance in the relationship Knowledge to Love).
7th Density is One Creator. In a sense He/She is teacher and learner of everyone and everything.
The Universe/Creator does not so much expect others to choose STO, because He/She also comes to know Himself/Herself through STS, especially in its extreme manifestations. The essence of the eventual transition to STO, even for those who are well advanced in STS, is to be reconnected with undistorted One Creator. STS is just a distorted form of STO. By overcoming distortions and getting closer to the Creator, one also overcomes the distortion that is STS.
So climbing higher requires changing the polarization to positive, if someone wants it, if it is its choice. Or it may not be his/her choice, he/she can get to know himself better and develop within the distortions of negative polarization.
This distortion allows the Creator to know himself better, but ultimately does not reflect his own original nature as Creator (rather his shadow, shadow of his light) and STS entities must achieve STO to reconnect with the Creator. After merging with the Creator, only Density 8 remains.
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thank you @K.K.33 for such a great and detailed reply, but i still have questions for you
so what you are saying is that there is a mysterious 8th density from which the Logos emerges, and they belong to the 7th density
- can it be seen as a separate entity? say as a single super intelligent and powerful being? and let’s say each Logos is unique? i.e. what happens within the universe is somehow always unique?
okay, this Logos emerges from the 8th density, but:
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when the Big Bang happens? i’m trying to understand at what point is the Big Bang. did it happen after the birth of the Logos? i mean, was the Logos born first and then he conceived of the universe, or is the big bang itself the birth of the Logos from our three-dimensional point of view? and it kind of comes out that the Logos is the whole universe, something like a living universe
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in your opinion, does this universe have boundaries? i.e. if the Logos is different from the eighth density, as it is the 7th density, then it is not infinite?
- so it turns out that what the insiders were talking about is a return to the 7th density itself, that is, I return to the Logos? I don’t quite understand what the insiders meant when they said that the return is available to everyone. return to where exactly?
i also don’t understand what memory retention has to do with all this. what memory will be retained? or none at all?
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in what density do our planets reside? why, roughly speaking, do i reside in the form of a human and not a planet? and can planets look like people in higher densities?
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what’s the difference between planets and humans?
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so our entire universe is 7th density?
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so our entire universe will be sucked back into 8th density? and do you think it will be a forced return?
thank you, i like your answer. i have this analogy in my head: i am inside a room with no windows and no way out, the room is 6th density and i am a negative entity. and there is no way for me to get out of the room, i will bang my head against the wall and only hurt my head, and i will have to accept the way of serving others. i mean sooner or later i will realize that this is the only way out of this room/imprisonment. is this the right analogy?
And I have 2 questions.
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if our guardian council is in 8th density, what does that look like? i mean, are they “out of our universe”?
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if we in 7th density are connected to the whole universe, i.e. connected to the Logos/creator of the universe, then who are the 8th density entities connected to? connected to that mystical infinity with unknown properties which is inside 8th density?
thank you for your attention
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8 Density is undoubtedly the most difficult to conceptualize, even by creating some approximations. I see it in such a way that, in a sense, first I create a base for it on which I climb and through these bumps upwards and I try to grasp 8 Density. One of the ways I think about it is to first generally identify All That Is and All That Is Not (both of these is my base). If we were to combine this into one, that is, Everything and Nothing combined into one, this would give us the 8 Density (the mysterious The One).
I see this manifestation of the Creator, who emerges from the 8th Density, as such a division of The One, into Everything and Nothing, except that at this point we already “drop” one density down and have the 7th Density, and thus the 7th Density would be the Everything (in other words, the Universe, Creator), whom we see against the background of Nothingness. In other words, we identify Existence and the Universe, because we can always set it in contrast with non-existence.
This also creates Consciousness for us, which I see a bit as such a side effect of this division on Everything and Nothing of 8 Density, where Consciousness gets a boost, thanks to the fact that whatever is in this Everything, can be contrasted with Nothing. We don’t know what it is yet, but we recognize that something is, however to know what it is, that is another step. Which creator is currently realizing, getting to know himself.
Once we have a Conscious Creator (Everything/Universe/7 Density/Intelligent Infinity), he creates various distortions through which he changes his form, drawing potential from the 8th Density from which he emerged. This potential of the 8 Density is like white light (Plenum) that falls on a prism (7 Density/Creator). Thanks to such a phenomenon, we have red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet ray and their corresponding Densitiy.
The Creator can be said to be source like a lens, like a prism that projects itself on the 7 levels that represent it. The highest level, level 7, is the seat of the Creator, where he exists in his purest undistorted form, he simply Is, he is Consciousness, is Intelligent Infinity.
The lower levels are further distortions of the Creator. These basic distortions are, of course, Love and Light. Thus, this raw potential of Existence as such (Intelligent Infinity) can be formed into a variety of finite forms in infinite numbers. Here, for all intents and purposes, we go further down a density lower, that is, to the 6th Density, and this is our Logos. The Logos, or Plan of Existence, according to which Love and Light creating the entire Universe.
Level of 6th Density, as the level of manifestation of pure Love and Light, also has another name and that is Intelligent Energy. It is also the highest level of our individual existence, which is as if integrated into the 7th Density and the Creator, with the difference that we continue to recognize and shape ourselves as independent beings, without losing our own identity and dissolving directly into Intelligent Infinity (7th Density).
The essence of Logos is that it has its “parent” in Intelligent Infinity, but it reaches its full powers as Intelligent Energy and is a filled blueprint (i.e. formed love/light), which is presented on a par with 6th Density. Everything that exists in the material world is made of this and ultimately everything that is experienced, felt, thought and imagined is ultimately reflected at the 6th Density level as a thought form, which, for example, Q’uo connects with Intelligent Energy, not with thinking what we understand, because we usually associate it with the work of our third density minds, what Q’uo calls bio-computers - this is not the point, these “thought forms” are rather what can be considered: portions of Intelligent Energy.
This “main” Logos can be divided into further sub-logos as we go “lower” in the hierarchy of creation.
When it comes to the uniqueness of Creation. From what Q’uo says, the Creator makes great efforts to go a little further each time, to do something different, to focus on something different, to get to know each other better, to discover something new. He acts through his own will as well as acts through the beings he creates. We may assume that some things are mechanical and repetitive, but efforts are constantly being made to break away from mechanics and replace it with creativity.
I see it this way: If 8 Density is pure undefined and unbridled potential, and 6 Density is Logos - the plan of creation brought to life by being filled with love and kept in order by light. This Big Bang is the moment when the 7th Density “lens” (Creator) has just released the 8th Density potential previously focused into this lens. This passing through this lens caused the dispersion of this mass (Plenum), which can be metaphorically described as the dispersion of various particles, colors, whatever outward. This was then “captured” by Density 6 and the formation process began.
I think the moment of the Big Bang can be associated specifically with the creation and activity of Love (which is also called the Second Distortion) and attribute it specifically to the action of Intelligent Infinity/7th Density/Creator. In a sense, the Creator is the Big Bang, he is the source of the universe and at the same time he is the seed for the entire universe, everything that will grow in this universe will contain him in itself.
Different Density does not mean losing the attribute of infinity. We talk about Density 7 as Intelligent Infinity, but Densities 1 and 2 can be infinite too. Let’s consider a planet with flora and fauna. Is there any finite amount of how nature can arrange itself on the planets? Let’s assume that a million planets with a specific life will be created, does that mean that one more planet cannot be created to have a slightly different life order? No. As we can imagine, the number of planets can be infinite, each of which will be different from each other in some way.
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You probably meditate from time to time. Have you meditated on 7th Density, on your connection with the Creator, maybe focused on the violet ray energy center?
I had such an experience recently in which I had the feeling of being a kite that was being displaced by the air, which was intense and delicious, it was a strong stream that felt fantastic. I noticed that different things were manifesting on the surface of this kite, I watched it in some way and experienced it like scenes from different movies, where some were not very nice.
This flow of this pleasant feeling that spread from within was so intense that I went through all these scenes with joy, none of them was a nuisance to me. And every little scene and detail was very intriguing. You had the feeling that even a falling leaf had something about it that made you feel like you were watching a rocket take off into space.
But the best thing was the stream that pushed and filled from within. I had the feeling that I was flying like a comet, being pushed by this force, and every image and experience, both negative and positive, gave me joy.
I don’t know what exactly was the source of this experience and whether I actually connected maybe with the Creator itself or some deeper space of consciousness and received something through higher centers. Possible. But before this meditative event, some time in the past I asked myself: “How is it that the Creator is able to cope with all these negative feelings? After all, if he feels everything that is felt, he also feels all the suffering in the entire universe. How does he endure it?”
And the answer came in this vision. Is it was correct, real? I can never be 100% sure. Well anyway, this supporting energy, probably the energy of Love, is so intense that even if they cut you with a saw on the table, you still endure it in some magical way, because this intense pleasant stream that fills you neutralizes it, and you simply enjoy that you experience this situation as if you were playing a game.
If it comes to this return to 7 Density or the transition to one of higher Density is the path one follows through one’s own consciousness. In the current state, thanks to higher centers, we are able to raise ourselves to this level of higher Densities and experience what we would experience there in a certain distorted form now.
I mean, I don’t rule out that some people are able to perceive certain things much more clearly than I do through meditation, for example. However, I must admit that all these experiences arrive in a somewhat distorted form.
The Light that passes from higher Densities is distorted and these experiences and understanding of it will usually be distorted. However, despite everything, we have these higher centers and they open us to experiencing these higher Densities.
You ask what it means to connect with 7th Density. This means going inside yourself, into your own consciousness, to move your perception, level of consciousness, modify your emotional state, open yourself to information and process it so that a certain limit will be reached and the energy will be able to prevail in favor of the experience of Density even higher and even higher.
Let’s go back to my meditation experience for a moment. It was associated with certain feelings, perceptions, understanding. Just like now, when we are in the body, we have certain thoughts, we feel a certain way, something comes to our mind, we think something, we make a decision. Existence in higher Densities is similar in some senses, but the set of emotions is different, our perception changes, we understand more. We have other choices to make.
All of this can be grasped by tapping into your own inner state, by looking through the windows of consciousness. Connecting with the Creator in 7th Density means obtaining an appropriate state of consciousness, characterized by a given attitude, perception of reality and understanding it. Now you or I can obtain in some form, because we have higher centers that enable us to do so.
Of course, these experiences are distorted. Of course, it would be easier for us to leave the 3rd Density body and approach these experiences in pure awareness, ascending through Densities to 6th, where our eternal and indestructible Self resides, and from there seeing the connection with the Creator would be much more clear. All these experiences that the Universe is able to give us can theoretically be experienced here and now, thanks to various centers.
However, it must be taken into account that they may not directly correspond to a stay in one or another higher Density, due to the fact that the Light that resides there is distorted in some way when arrive to us. However, all the power to “flirt” with the entire Cosmos is inside us. In the long run, we can always choose who we want to be and choose where we want to be, including the level of Density, the only thing that can hinder us is that we are in the body or that we have not focused enough on what we have available while still in the body, depends on what exactly we want to achieve.
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Our planet according to Q’uo resides at 4th Density and it is a positively polarized planet. This is the intention of the Logos.
From what I understand, the planets are separate entities, in terms of structure, from people. People exist as small Universes. Planets are like windows in the large Universe. People are Microcosms in the entire Macrocosm. The planets are the gathering points for these Microcosms organized into Macrocosms.
Planets also have their lives between Densities. Planets also evolve from 1 to 8 Densities. Our planet is in 4th Density. If the transition is complete, it may change its appearance completely and become uninhabitable at 3rd Density on the surface, and some 2nd Density species may die as well. Planet Earth will later undergo a transition to 5th Density.
And then on to 6th Density. What does it mean? Will the planet Earth, as a result of cosmic activities, then become a Star and perhaps have its own planets? Then the stars explode or become black holes, this too can be related to the development by further Densities.
I personally see such determinants of the development of the universe in the life cycle of stars and planets. Planets/stars most likely experience development through all Densities. Becoming part of the cosmic drama, undergoing various metamorphoses. They are also portals (windows) for the existence of some plan of the Creator, which gives the opportunity to experience life to other beings who want to evolve and deprives them of this opportunity if they decide to take the next stage in the evolution of the universe.
I think we can say that.
It depends on how you understand “forced.” For someone it may be perceived as “forced”, someone else will say that it is natural. Someone else will say that it is an advancement from 7th Density to 8th Density.
Well, all the fun of distorting the One may come to an end one day and the One will eventually return to its original form (8 Density). However, as we know, the development of the universe proceeds through Octaves, so we cannot expect such a full return to 8 Density, it will rather be a return to 7 Density and start new Octave.
It is possible that the way it works is that Density 8 collects everything that is currently happening to fulfill its natural function. The Creator constantly destabilizes this state in order to learning something new. Allowing finally infinite existence to return to its original source and to undertake another Big Bang and learn again something new, using matter only as something that is recycled and helps achieve goals of the Creator in the next Octave. What is worth remember this “matter” in the fundamental shape is light.
Well, I wouldn’t see it that way, that someone is trapped. More like let’s assume we have someone at 5th Density STS. He learned a lot and gained a very high level of negative polarization. He may leave Density 5 thanks to the gained wisdom, but Density higher is associated with the balance between Knowledge and Love, and thus with a new level of understanding of reality and existence.
What counts is not only knowledge as such, as something more technical and answering the question of how something works and what is the meaning of the reality that is happening, but it is a certain deep wisdom resulting from looking at the same things with love. For some STS, this may be an interesting step in their development, they may notice that something is missing and want to take this new, exciting step. Then they can go to Density 6 to work on it, which brings them closer to Density 7.
If STS does not undertake this, he constantly works to increase its negative polarization and acquire new knowledge. Theoretically, this is an endless process. However, he may decide differently in some point of time if he has the appropriate amount of knowledge about the universe around him and understand that there is a choice in development that also includes development in a positive polarity for him.
I think the Densities are interconnected in a way that they are nested within each other. It’s like having a disk. The point at the center of the disk is 8 Density. The first circular layer with a certain width up to 7 Density. The next outer layer of the disc is the next width that surrounds the center and this is 6 Density. Then another Density. Until we have 1 Density, which is the last layer of the disk. 1 Density is the outermost layer. 8 Density is the center of the disk.
7 Density is the one closest to the center. Together they all form one disk. These lower Densities are like a surface, another layer that surrounds the higher ones. If we break through to higher Densities, we break inside and through subsequent layers. This is how I see Densities in general. In a sense, this whole creates One. The only thing is that it is divided internally, so that each part plays its own role.
Regarding the 8th Density and their “inhabitants.” So I think being there is quite complicated to convey. The Creator Himself is something difficult to define, because what Intelligent Infinity actually is, what it must experience, what it can be like. I think that 8 Density is something so abstract that it would be difficult to refer to any beings inhabiting it. For one thing, I’ll forgive myself, even if I had to create some metaphors and personifications
Anyway. You gave me a squeeze today. I hope you will benefit from what I wrote in these few posts to you today. I think I need to rest.
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Sixth density is NOT yet unity.
We’ve discussed with the metaphor of “soap bubble” before, using soap bubble metaphor, how can the air inside the bubble be fully united with the infinite borderless air when the bubble is still intact?
Sixth density is a stage when the bubble has become so big thus the wall is getting thinner and easily permeable. But the bubble still exist.
The revealing experience of unity will be metaphorically as follow.
A bully named John continuously bullying one of his class mate, Sam, John is comfortable of doing it because he doesn’t feel anything that was experienced by Sam (experience / memory isolation), plus such deed satisfy his ego (Sam is weak I am strong).
And then one day John experienced something ‘weird’, as he slapped Sam he suddenly experienced what was experienced by Sam. The experience is not ‘pleasant’ to say the least, the pain, the humiliation as experienced by Sam is being experienced also by John. He slapped Sam one more time, boom he felt it again. With such ‘revelation’ John will have no choice but to view Sam as part of himself, he then stopped slapping Sam and treat him with the nice treatment as possible, as what was being experienced by Sam, John is experiencing it too.
Thus you asked about a straight way to get into 8th density (full unity)?
There is a way; destroy the bubble, then the air inside the bubble will rejoin the pervasive, infinite and borderless air. This is however easier said than done.
thank you very much @K.K.33 for your answers
your words resonate with me so much 
you have very detailed and clear examples, usually it is always difficult for me to understand the essence of various things, but you were able to explain everything to me from the first time, thank you for that. the picture of what is happening i have already very much formed !!
you are the only one who has been able to explain to me the information that goes along with the information i have come to in my long deliberations. in essence i have come to the conclusion that besides the creator/god/7th density, who created this universe and who does not understand himself and is trying to know himself, and besides in general this whole system of octaves, which is obviously designed to accumulate experience, there is a third party between us and the creator, and that is 8th density. now it is clear to me that i and the creator of this universe share the same desire: to understand what is going on at all, and i love it 
i don’t find my connection with the creator through meditation. in my life so many strange things. my mother told me that as a child, at a very young age, i often told her that i am God. it scared her so much and she forbade me to say so. then, as i gradually grew older, i stopped behaving strangely. a couple of years ago, from the moment when i was 17 years old i became acquainted with the materials of Ra and began to think a lot about God, distinct signs appeared in my life, certain numbers that haunt me, and this feels like a mysterious presence to me
in the summer i come to the place where i grew up, there are not many people around there and there are many agricultural fields very close by. it all feels very lonely to me, but very spacious at the same time
i saw a lot of glowing lights in those places, and also i saw a ufo last summer. strangely, when i look at the night sky, i manage to notice there what pretends to be stars
and last summer i had strange dreams that i had never had before. in my dreams there a strange plate landed in the courtyard of my house at night, and i walked out of the house right to them, and they were telling me something. and in these dreams there was a very, very strange feeling, as if time had stopped
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yeah, now i understand what you are saying. i agree with you
about your example, it is very familiar to me. i constantly feel very bad from the bottom of myself when i can offend a good person. i feel very uncomfortable when i hear someone crying, uncomfortable when i see mothers scolding their children. uncomfortable when i see drunk people, or smokers. i want to escape to some quiet warm place, where it will be quiet and not so sunny, because i want that shade that the trees create
I don’t know if it has been posted already, but this is the original quote:
34.2 Questioner: (…) You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?
Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.
I don’t see it referencing suicide at all, at least not what we tend to understand as suicide. I believe that it has to do with the soul leaving the body at will, like in meditation, without an act of direct violence over the body.
This quote is the one that Don seemed to be referencing:
17.25 Questioner: How did Taras Bulba, Genghis Khan, and Rasputin get harvested prior to the harvest?
Ra: I am Ra. It is the right/privilege/duty of those opening consciously the gate to intelligent infinity to choose the manner of their leaving of the density. Those of negative orientation who so achieve this right/duty most often choose to move forward in their learn/teaching of service to self.
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An observation: as its recognition grows, the Law of One (specifically through The Ra Contact relistening edition, I believe) will eventually be passed down for many generations to come as an exemplar of spiritual materials. Considering the present wealth of historical spiritual materials across all the world’s religions, how rare it is to have received such information in one’s native tongue and to also be able to listen to the actual audio recordings themselves. Typically, historical or religious scholars must work across multiple versions to discern original intent because the originals have been lost. For now, the original channeled materials are completely intact, making interpretation a tractable enterprise.
Someone earlier in this thread was talking about how Don chose questions. Have you looked at his notebook? It’s quite an interesting document since it highlights questions he didn’t get to ask, as Gary kindly showcases.
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Thank you for the notebook reference, I didn’t see it. As for your note about passing down the materials, I was thinking a lot if it might become a dogma and I hope it will not. Every time I am checking myself for that and I find it’s not a dogma for me and I found my own foundation that is (still?) more important for me.
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Not strange, odd or upsetting to me. I find it comforting-reassuring because it backs up my Understanding.
Death is not what we have been taught by “them”.
Most of us here Understand the True Process of “death”.
If you Truly Understand “death” and fear it not…the above makes sense.
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Sleep is hitting the pause button in the simulator.
Death is temporarily logging out from a simulator.
Ego Death is permanently logging out from any simulator.
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