Ra Intrudes Into a Regular Channeling

I have never noticed this in a transcript before. This happened during the Ra Contact era, and Ra slipped into a session because Latwii was not so careful with the instrument. This is interesting for historical purposes…potentially.

M

So as Earth goes into fourth density, or green, the actual mineral expression which is normally first density—is the spiritual entity of the planet, being mineral essentially, first density or fourth? Or do they co-exist?

Latwii

I am Latwii. Not only do they co-exist, but you have first, second, and fourth; the third density, at some point in your future, will cease being active. However, in the long run you have each density occurring concurrently, so that the planetary sphere has first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh. This is the mature planetary system of bodies. One is not discarded when another is activated; each functions concurrently with the others.

This is a difficult subject, for the mind perhaps is attempting to rationalize whether the second-density tree at third density is the same second-density tree in fourth density. Yes, my brother, it is the same tree, but in the fourth density of vibration it will [have] slightly different characteristics and will be able to have a more conscious relationship with the fourth-density being, for instance, being able to communicate the simple second-density feelings to the fourth-density entity. It remains the same tree, but as each density observes it, it grows in its ability to be understood in its essence.

May we answer you further?

M

Just one quick one. Okay. The tree. The second-density spiritual still would be fourth-density physical after the transition. Is that correct?

Ra

I am Ra. For a time it will be second density, overlaid third density and fourth density. May we answer you further?

M

No, thank you.

Ra

We thank you. May we ask if there may be another question at this time?

R

When a planet is fourth density, it will no longer support third density forever, or just for a temporary period?

Ra

I am Ra … We correct this instrument. We are attempting to retrieve this instrument from a trance state. Please have patience.

Latwii

I am Latwii. We have this instrument. This instrument was going into a trance state due to the subject matter. We are now with this instrument. We will continue talking complete nonsense through this instrument for a moment, if you will have patience, so that we can gain good control of this instrument.

L

Is there any way we can assist?

Latwii

We are achieving good control. Thank you for your offer. I am Latwii. Sometimes, my friends, we are less than careful with our contact with this instrument.

Now, to the question that was asked. The third density may be likened to a kind of body; the fourth density, a denser type of body. In fourth density there is a type of experience which goes with this type of body. This experience is new to this body and the body, like that of any child, must mature and grow. If the fourth density were visible to third density, the processes of third density would be those with whom it would greatly interfere, for in third density there are choices to be made and lessons to be learned, and if fourth-density positive or negative were visible to third density, the entire process of choice would be abrogated.

Consequently, while the fourth density of planetary complex is young, third density remains unactivated. This is normally so only for a limited amount of time, until fourth-density entities become able, through the process of maturing and forming the social memory complex, of removing their density from the view of third density. When this is possible without strain, third-density experience may once again become available for those who are graduating, shall we say, from second density.

May we answer you further?

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Hi, I’ve read Books 1, 2, 3, and 4. The channeling sessions that came afterward didn’t give me the same sense of trust. Don Elkins wasn’t involved in those sessions.

the indication at the end of Latwi about third and fourth density was interesting though,… thanks Mirror

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I had two thoughts about that. First, growing up in a 3D civilization proximate to an invisible 4D population must provide a very strong influence of positive energy to the extent that we cannot imagine.

Second, sharing a planet with an invisible population seems to open up all kinds of possibilities for conspiracy theories!

Well, Don Elkins was involved in all the channel sessions up until he died, including the one quoted from above wherein he elbows Latwii to the point of making them uncomfortable. In another, he asks a long series of transient questions. What, exactly, do you feel went missing from the channeling sessions when he died?

Hi. They waited a long time before publishing Book 5, and Carla and Jim added their own interpretations. I heard that some of Ra’s answers were changed in the process.

It seems pretty clear to me that the group called Latwii was trying to portray Ra in a negative way. The channeling itself comes across as something that was manipulating both the group and the readers.

I also learned that Carla wasn’t able to make contact with Ra without Don.

That’s why, for me, after Book 4 isn’t reliable.

The numbering of the books is confusing. Book 5, while it was published after Books 1-4, is contemporary with the others, it does include subsequent material. It is personal material that all three participants chose to omit in the first publishing.

Some questions and answers were changed because they re-listened to the tapes and realized some of the previous transcriptions contained errors. So, the material became more accurate in later editions.

You offered your opinions, in my view, the non-Ra channeled material is a more useful body of information than the Ra Material itself. Firstly, Ra is present in the background of those conversations, although they never (well, nearly never) step to the fore themselves. Second, a far greater scope of topics is covered in the other material which, IFa person has a wide scope of spiritual interest, offers more meat on the bones, if you will.

Anyhow, I wish you all the best in your seeking.