Questioner: Questioning

I have always felt the desire to question, but end up feeling lacking.

Part of the reason for my post came to me after reading Phoenix’s last post.

Even here where supposedly seekers have gathered to “research/develop spirituality”, research halts most of the time due to old channeling as if spiritual research has ended and concluded when the channeling stopped.

So I am here to question why is that, the Ra contact seemed to have ended abruptly and Q’uo answers more on a surface level.

The same thing happened most of the time on bring4th, whenever I raised questions seekers would blindly look to old conversation material and seek no further.

Is it perhaps because we are afraid? Or is there a problem in questioning? Because I have so many questions.

P.s sorry for bad English I am not a native speaker.

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Personally, I ask questions every day and get answers from different sources)) Yes, there is a problem that you have to read a lot and synthesize a variety of information. Who said it would be easy? Angels are not going to give ready-made answers, they are interested in human independence and responsibility.

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Personally, I found the basic answers I needed in the material. Now, what remains is facing the school of life. Everyday living is a act of spiritual seeking that may not have a substitute.

It seems this is a pattern for many. It might be that eventually one recognizes that there is not much else to be said.

But I also agree with you, there is always something to gain from continued pondering and from saying the same things using different words.

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Knowledge is power, Wisdom is peace.

Do you have a regular meditation practice?

See that’s the thing, when seekers ask questions, the answers hit the same brick wall. Seek peace, meditation, everything’s in the material.

But when L/L seeks Q’uo in channeling suddenly there is stuff to question and research.
And like I said, the Ra contact has ended abruptly, it has not been concluded.

You truly do not see the irony?

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And yet all the material that this forum bases about, which provides us peace and wisdom has been attained through knowledge. And is based on knowledge.

I am not saying I have an issue, or a problem per se.
I am saying that I have a passion to question and research, it is what I am good at. Or so I think

When it comes to the Ra material per se, then of course humanity would greatly benefit if that could continue.

If we look at decades of Q’uo channelings we notice that it is always the same questions that are asked. Yet there is value at having many different answers to those same questions.

So keep asking with passion. :slight_smile:

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Seek and ye shall find. I’m not saying it’s wrong to seek in any way shape or form. To seek is to grow. I have been seeking, reading, searching, watching, feeling, praying etc for a long time. I’m merely attempting to share that, through my own seeking, I’ve found sitting in silence, on a consistent basis, has given me much more than any other form of seeking I ever did. I’m not sure I completely understand it but I think potentially when you silence your mind, your guides/higher self are more able to share information/knowing to you. Peace, love and fearlessness do not come through knowledge but I receive those vibrations regularly through meditation. I’m aware of the irony that only through seeking knowledge was I lead to material such as this and many others that constantly speak of the importance of a regular meditation practice. I’m also ware I spent many years having read of the importance but not actually doing it properly or sticking to a regular routine. You can keep learning through seeking knowledge but, if you don’t already, I’m simply recommending to attempt to meditate on a regular basis and see how you feel.

Happy seeking

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To bring in the contact of Ra was an objectively dangerous mission. Don died and Carla almost died. That’s why the contact ended abruptly. These sacrifices were a function of the purity required to maintain the Ra contact over conscious channelings.

Ra said that they will not likely be channeled again, and I personally would advise anyone against trying it, based upon what happened the last time. We have the Ra material. It has infinite depth and richness and lessons. The conscious channeling material is also good and useful, and there’s even far more of it.

When you come to spaces dedicated to a particular spiritual modality, of course your responses will be framed by citing teachers from that modality. I’m not sure what you are really asking for, here. If you’re looking to discuss your experiences from a variety of spiritual teachings, there are other places to go that aren’t focused on one particular lens. Asking for everyone on the LL Research forums to be well versed in multiple teachings is asking a lot. Most of the rest of us are here to talk about The Law of One and the subsequent channelings from the Confederation, and I think that’s reasonable?

However, the whole point of any true spiritual modality is to begin to seek within the self for answers instead of constantly desiring more and more answers from beings outside of the self. At some point, what anyone else says - Ra, Q’uo, Jesus, Buddha, people on this forum, your mother, whatever - becomes irrelevant to the seeker. And it should. Spiritual research is a journey that many of us are doing personally, within our own subjective minds. All of your questions that can be answered will be by connecting with your self through dedicated meditation.

I hope it’s okay if I cite Ra here.

[60.27] We of the Confederation are at the call of those upon your planet. If the call, though sincere, is fairly low in consciousness of the, shall we say, system whereby spiritual evolution may be precipitated, then we may only offer that information useful to that particular caller. This is the basic difficulty. Entities receive the basic information about the Original Thought and the means, that is meditation and service to others, whereby this Original Thought may be obtained.

Please note that as Confederation members we are speaking for positively oriented entities. We believe the Orion group has precisely the same difficulty.

Once this basic information is received it is not put into practice in the heart and in the life experience but instead rattles about within the mind complex distortions as would a building block which has lost its place and simply rolls from side to side uselessly, yet still the entity calls. Therefore, the same basic information is repeated. Ultimately the entity decides that it is weary of this repetitive information. However, if an entity puts into practice that which it is given, it will not find repetition except when needed.

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I am not precisely looking to discuss different spiritual teachings, I am rather particularly interested in questioning what was left unsaid/unquestioned.

For example. What do they mean that they are not a part of time and able to be with us at all times?
Does it mean they can be in the past/present/future? How far in the past/future? The end/beginning of our universe? Is that why they are so cautious of not abridging free will because they can simultaneuosly see the future? Or are they in the present just like us but with a different time dilation? Does it mean to them everything happens in a split second as if they are traveling at light speed? Are they?
If that’s not exactly what they mean, and they are simply in suspended time, infinite time, does it mean that incaranating is leaving infinite time, to accelerate through limited time to attain experience and spiritual progress?

So many questions, I am simply fascinated and my heart is burning with passion. The fact that there is something instead of nothing feels me with awe and love. Thank you for taking your time to read and reply, I appreciate it.

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I was also looking for that quote thank you :smiling_face:

I like where you are going with this…
Can you explain the irony please…

Knowledge and understanding does not immediately equal to power and dominating other selves. Some knowdge is service to others, what helps us grow more and better food, what helps us survive and live a better life like electricity, housing and transportation. Other forms of curious knowledge like astronomy, gazing at the stars and the cosmos sparks our hearts with wonder and love. Makes us seek the creator.

For the long while that I haven’t been in these forums, I haven’t thought of the concept of “STS”, haven’t looked at others through these lense.

Love is a simple, complicated, and infinite thing. It is not that one thing but not the other, sharing of thoughts and ideas is love. Seeing others as yourself, and yourself as others is love.

Peace, silence and meditation is key to opening the heart. But being open hearted is a constant active service.

We are different yet the same, some come from different places, different vibrations with different traits and ways to offer service at this place and time.

In 4th dimension, some serve by sending love to others, some incarnate to assist in harvest, perhaps some offer knowledge and wisdom through channeling, and unfortunately some have to even spiritually fight to protect. So yes, love is indeed in peace and meditation, but not only, not always.

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What or where is the spiritual realm? Is it another layer that sits on top of the 3rd density plane or does it exist beyond on a different plane?

Are locations in third density the same on the spiritual plane and on higher densities?

The third density plane or objects in the third density physical plane are always moving as the universe is expanding in all directions, galaxies are moving and rotating the stars within them. Does the spiritual plane move along with the physical 3rd? If so does that mean that the spiritual plane is affected by 3rd physical forces such as time and gravity?

In the material it is said that the council sits in Saturn’s rings, I understand it has some spiritual significance or harmony.

But then again, Ra also mentioned that they are not a part of time. If they are not a part of time then they are on a plane that is not directly affected by the 3rd physical plane, by time and gravity. So what does it mean that the council sits in the eight dimension of Saturn’s rings if Saturn and it’s rings are 3rd physical objects moving through space?

Can they perhaps suspend time, or do they use thought to travel to and along with what is affected by time and gravity?

Can we choose to travel where we wish in the spiritual plane? Can we travel on and into the sun? Or a black hole? What significance or effects does that hold?

Perhaps planets and stars have different bodies across the octaves that exist simultaneously, in a plane that is not affected by time and gravity? Does that plane even have space? The same space, different space? More or less space? Infinite space?

If the spiritual plane does not have gravity or time, does it mean that it is infinitely illuminated? Infinitely energetic?