this is so weird Quan, as for you, ht link was that I was reading a newsletter from a young guy who was a a meditator, and one time he published two excerpt s from 2 different seasons from RA, one was on meditation ( linking to buddhism) and one was… on synchronicity !
As I had experienced several times synchronicity in my own lffe but never read anything in it before… I immediately ordered the book the Law of One from our friends here and… that was it !! lol

This was many many years ago and the young man who was writing this newsletter stopped soon like a year later, but he gave me Ra for which I am eternally grateful to him !!

So synchronicity for both of us Quan, how is that for synchronicity ?? lol lol lol

I have had a little favorite vision of possibly infinity when I read Journey of the Souls by Michael Newton

One of his patients describes going to the library where all the records are and he sees the tables alll lined up one after the other , and on the walls are stacked the books of the past incarnations of each soul and when he is requested to describe more in details the whole room , he says that he can see about ix or seven table but the next ones are lost in a kind of pale blue fog and he realizes then there is no end to the library,…

When I first read it I could nearly see it visually and I thought yes this is like seeingi a bit inifinity… It felt bliss imagining and seeing rhis vision

Haha wow that is incredible synchronicity too
There was a Korean movie I watched… where person time traveled and there was going to be a civil war between princes for the the throne… an despite him knowing the order of historic events and attempting to prevent them, which in some cases he did… he couldnt stop it in the end. There was a person in it, I think he was a time traveler too(or not im not sure) and was very wise… main thing is he said something along the lines of once the tide is coming in, you can only prevent it for so long…you cant stop the tide aka the main moments will happen as their meant too.
Well when it happened for me I just couldnt read from website nor have patience for book, given on other side of the world so I just copied and pasted it and printed bit by bit it out from work, read it on the commute home each day . No point using words to record what I felt upon reading it first time… just unlocked the more i read it(unconscioulsy) so I felt I had to read it as quick as possible… not concentrating on detail.
Its good you have the knowledge of the source of catalyst, its a mystery for me!

Thank you for that and also for the comments on infinity, I havent not read the book but nice choice in example. Some nice spiritual bread crumbs to follow

Yes I remember when i first realised this, not that I hadnt before… not on a surface level but on deep inner level I wept and felt so sad for my physical body, but sad in a deeply compassionate way. I felt it triggered a new level of being in that green ray center…

Mathematics formulates alternative
language and perspectives which
may approach this differently using
imaginary complex numbers. An
example might be contour integrals
used to make estimations about
singularities. This tool is sometimes
used in the practice of mathematical
physics.

This is, of course, an attempt to approach the Infinite, but it is a tool mainly geared towards dealing with the Infinite, rather than knowing or understanding it.

It is more like saying, ‘Let’s deal with this infinity so that it causes us as few problems as possible. Let’s speed up calculations and make them more accurate, so that our systems and infrastructure are more accurate and secure.’

Contour integration approaches infinity in a mundane and mathematical sense. However, we are more concerned with Infinity as a metaphysical concept. For that, we seek useful mathematical tools that are deeper and more abstract, yet allow for strict description.

If we want to approach Infinity, which has a more philosophical meaning in the Confederation’s teachings, I would suggest Category Theory. This is a mathematical tool designed to work on more abstract problems, not just for engineering, technical physics, or applied mathematics.

In Category Theory, Infinity can be approached in several ways:

Limits and Colimits: Limits and colimits are generalizations of limits and colimits in set theory. They are particularly useful when working with infinite diagrams (structures composed of objects and morphisms).

Limit: A generalization of Cartesian products and intersections. It can be used to describe infinite structures by “approaching” a certain object.

Colimit: A generalization of sums and unions. It is used to construct new objects from an infinite number of other objects by “gluing” them together.

Monoidal Categories: These categories are equipped with a tensor operation that can model various aspects of infinity, such as infinite sums and products.

Topos: A topos is a category that retains many of the properties of the category of sets, but in a more general context. It can model different types of infinity, such as infinite spaces.

Category Theory can be used to model the metaphysics of the Confederation. For example, the levels of density can be represented this way. Let us model 8 levels of density from 1 to 8 (from D1 to D8), where D8 represents Infinity as the final object.

Objects: The density levels are treated as objects in the category:

D_{1}: First density - consciousness of matter

D_{2}: Second density - consciousness of plants and animals

D_{3}: Third density - individual human consciousness

D_{4}: Fourth density - consciousness of love/understanding

D_{5}: Fifth density - consciousness of wisdom

D_{6}: Sixth density - consciousness of unity, balance of love and wisdom

D_{7}: Seventh density - consciousness of the gateway to infinity

D_{8}: Eighth density - return to the Source, infinity

Morphisms: Transitions between density levels are represented as morphisms:

f_{1,2}: Transition from first to second density

f_{2,3}: Transition from second to third density

f_{3,4}: Transition from third to fourth density

f_{4,5}: Transition from fourth to fifth density

f_{5,6}: Transition from fifth to sixth density

f_{6,7}: Transition from sixth to seventh density

f_{7,8}: Transition from seventh to eighth density

Additionally, we can create terminal morphisms leading directly to the Infinite. The premise is that everything that exists comes from and ultimately returns to the 8th Density, the Infinite. Everything is also always connected to the Infinite:

t_{1}: Unique morphism from first density to eighth density

t_{2}: Unique morphism from second density to eighth density

t_{3}: Unique morphism from third density to eighth density

t_{4}: Unique morphism from fourth density to eighth density

t_{5}: Unique morphism from fifth density to eighth density

t_{6}: Unique morphism from sixth density to eighth density

t_{7}: Unique morphism from seventh density to eighth density

Thank you. I believe it is worthwhile to write something about Category Theory, as it is an advanced mathematical framework that many may not be familiar with. Within the realm of mathematics, Category Theory serves as a robust tool for modeling and exploring abstract concepts.

Theoretically, a substantial portion of Q’uo metaphysics could be articulated using Category Theory. However, this would be an extensive and complex endeavor to achieve the necessary precision. Even the preliminary exposition I have provided requires further specificity.

My acquaintance with Category Theory stems from a friend who is both a philosopher and a physicist, possessing significantly more expertise in this domain than I do. For those interested in applying a rigorous scientific methodology to the investigation and elaboration of metaphysical and spiritual phenomena through mathematics, I encourage you to contact me privately. It is possible that my friend, who is open to novel ideas and has some familiarity with the material on this forum, may be willing to address inquiries related to mathematics and physics.

Nonetheless, engaging with these topics in such way necessitates a scientific approach. While this forum emphasizes intuitive learning, understanding, and more open, less precise discussion, addressing scientific issues requires a greater reliance on intellectual rigor and a solid foundation in mathematics.

The question is whether anyone is interested in this approach, as it may not suit everyone. For some people, it is better to work more with intuition, and that is okay, because they will get to things faster and deeper. Others may prefer a scientific approach. It’s a matter of predispositions and willingness.

not feeling you have to criticize others is of a great relief , lol, and also, of course, the right kind action.
same unconditional respect n the Namaste of Hindus…

Categorizing seems somewhat like bin-sorting
which might in some degree have connotations
of negative polarity, like class disparity or
segregation bias. There may be some notion
of sub-octave that might soften hard limits.
Morphism seems to capture time varient
influence than categorization alone might
suggest, but then there’s mind body spirit
trichotomy that may move parallel or serial.

I reflect on ugly Pluto, a marginalize planetoid
with theme of regeneration. It may be some
spokesperson of the Kuiper belt that may have
access to things less distracted than Gaia.
The ugliness can be the destructive phase
of creative genesis. Ra emphasizes the one
infinite creator, where creation might be one
facet of some regenerative process. Focus
on creating improvement might cultivate
optimism in the present. Pluto seems an
underdog.

As for Category Theory, it has nothing to do with bin-sorting.

Categories in Category Theory are mathematical structures used to study and formalize concepts that appear in various areas of mathematics. Category theory makes it possible to generally capture concepts such as functions, spaces, groups or other mathematical structures in a unified way.

Basic elements of category: Objects - Elements of a given category. Morphisms (arrows) - Arrows connecting objects that represent functions or mappings. Composition of morphisms - The operation of putting together morphisms that are cumulative. Identity morphisms - Morphisms that act as neutral elements in a composition.

Important concepts:

Monoidal categories - Categories equipped with a tensor operation along with a unit object. Abel categories - Categories with structures that resemble operations on abel groups. Functors - Mappings between categories that preserve the category structure. Natural transformations - Structures between functors that transform one functor into another in a manner consistent with the composition of morphisms.

In my example from one of the previous posts, the category is One Infinite Creation, which is further divided into 8 Densities, where each Density is an object.

Categories in the general sense, rather than in the sense of Category Theory, can also find use. After all, STO and STS can also be considered as two different categories, where to one category (e.g., STO) belong certain behaviors, attitudes, ways of doing things, a certain philosophy. And to the other category (e.g. STS), in turn, belong other behaviors, attitudes, ways of doing things, a certain philosophy. And these two categories are definitely different from each other, they are opposed to each other.

In Category Theory, for example, it is possible to create one category as One Infinite Creation. And two other categories: STO and STS. Then combine these two categories of STO and STS into one category of One Infinite Creation, which will indicate the Oneness of all existence. This can be done through functors.

The morphisms in my example represent the transition from Density to Density, which, unspoken or not defined by me, involved an increase in Light/Love. I did not consider the time at all, nevertheless I do not think it would not find a reference. It’s just that this is not the moment for it. You would have to put a lot of work and thought into it.

In addition, morphisms do not have to represent changes over time but rather relationships between objects - this approach aligns with the general principles of Category Theory - morphisms simply do not need to reflect changes over time, this is correct within Category Theory - also, as for time, time in a sense does not exist, it is simply the extended present. For the Creator, there is always only one present moment, which expands to infinity.

Very important quotes, especially in the current time, when STS at its peak is attempting to dominate others through various forms of authority, living out the last moments of their “glory”.

There is no authority vested in groups, states, or even enlightened individuals. The only authority that exists and is consistent with STO is our own authority, balanced by the authority of the Creator.

These are the sole sources of true authority: ourselves and the Creator directly. Anything that stands between us and the Creator, such as other people, charlatans claiming to speak for God, groups, institutions, governments, or aliens, does not hold true authority.

The only authorities are ourselves as individuals and the Creator.

Fortunately, I am no authority over you, nor should I be, just as you are not an authority over me. However, we discuss and learn from each other because even in ordinary opinions, there is an implicit understanding that comes from wisdom, which influences those opinions.

But we must always remember that the ultimate authority lies within ourselves individually and with the Creator. Where at some level these two categories of entities are the same Being.

The further mention of categories here reminds
me of omissions. For example, in the Law of One
there seems to be an omission of mathematical
sense, which might pose grounds for confusion
intentional or not. What is the density of such
an idea?

This reminds me of the question,
if a tree falls in a forest, and nobody is around
to hear it, does it make a sound? If someone
writes out an idea, but nobody understands it
does it remain simply a 1d piece of paper, but
then if it’s comprehended, some other density?

There’s somewhat an ommission of the word
“God” as a name, but includes “god” in other
uses. Yahweh might be an example of God
as a name, and maybe there’s some sort of
category to put stuff like that in. What density
is a name, distinct from whatever its naming?

Perhaps my response might seem simplistic, yet if asked about this well-known quandary, I would say that the Creator is always aware, regardless of the circumstances.

Nothing escapes the Creator’s attention. Sound waves may be absorbed by plants and the earth if they are present.

Even if, for some reason, the Creator does not perceive the physical sound waves directly, it remains aware at some level—particularly at the seventh density level, where the Creator, through consciousness, is interconnected with everything.

In truth, all of Creation is capable of perception. There is no “thing” or “inanimate object”; everything is, in essence, a “someone.” Although this concept may seem perplexing, it is essential to understand that every entity, even seemingly inanimate ones, has a form of consciousness.

If the Creator encompasses all, then even an empty area of space-time is part of this consciousness. This means that a stone, the grass, and even an empty space are “someone.” There is no “something”—only “someone.” However, the levels of being “someone” can vary significantly; for instance, a stone’s level of being is vastly different from that of a human.

In conclusion, the Creator is aware of everything. One might poetically say that the Creator speaks from itself to itself. If a tree falls and is able creates a sound, it always creates a sound. Even if no one is present to hear it, the Creator will “hear” it.

Mathematics, by its very nature, serves to lose the broader and deeper meaning in favor of greater precision and accuracy. We get something, but nevertheless we also lose too. This kind of work is aimed at finite things rather than the infinite.

Also, as far as I know, the people who channel, and I don’t want to take anything away from anyone here, were not in the physical and mathematical sciences. For example, I believe Q’uo could have significantly contributed to expanding various issues in theoretical physics, making it easier to find mathematical formulas and the like.

However, the Creator intended things to be different, and I am not complaining about that. Scientific and technological issues are delicately outlined, and the focus is mainly on development towards positive polarity, which is beneficial.

As someone who identifies with Q’uo/Ra metaphysics, I accept the existence of a choice of polarization—the choice between service to others and service to self. People in the 3rd density, especially during the transition to the 4th density, should be aware of this Choice. They should engage in intentional and conscious work to serve others or themselves, becoming more or less effective on their chosen path.

However, many people are not aware of this at all, which is not good from the perspective of development towards a higher density. So, considering the learning of mathematics and technical issues, why delve into them if people on Earth are not able to realize the necessity of something such fundamental as The Choice?

I would like to refer to Category Theory a bit yet. Mathematics is mainly associated with calculations. However, if we want to study issues related to metaphysics, focusing solely on traditional mathematics might not be suitable. Instead, we might need a different approach, such as Category Theory, which does not primarily focus on calculations.

Category Theory is not exactly typical mathematics, it is meta-mathematics. And since it is meta, it will also be more suitable for metaphysics.

Of course, calculations are crucial, for instance in engineering. No one wants their house to collapse due to faulty planning, incorrect application of materials, or improper construction. However, when dealing with metaphysical issues, we enter a different realm.

In Category Theory, creation can be seen as follows: everything that occurs is created through manifestation/distortion. The best way to represent this is through a prism.

A prism splits light into seven different colors. We could relate this to the creation of seven levels of density, with the 8th density being the source of white light. The seven colors created by the prism are distortions of the white light because the white color is no longer present in its original form; it is now divided. These seven colors represent what we can call also manifestations, as they are something new, something that wasn’t present before.

Let’s take another example: polarities. Polarizations are also distortions/manifestations. At some point, a light stream was transformed to create a polarization. Then, that distorted single ray began to manifest as two rays: one of positive polarity and one of negative polarity.

In this context, Category Theory could be applied, where the categories would represent the individual rays, each being an element of the projection of consciousness in creation. One category corresponds to one ray. These categories would combine with each other, eventually merging back into One. Each individual category would have a description using these mathematical structures.

The return to the One can be visualized as the process where these rays return to their source. This can be imagined as passing seven differently colored rays through an inverted prism, merging back into one white light. This implies cyclicity, where the split rays (these seven and others distorted rays) return to their source, integrating back into one.

These returning light rays would continue to combine until the original ray (the One) returns to its unsplit/undistorted/unmanifested state. The task would be to describe this entire process using Category Theory. This is a conceptual vision for now, aiming to explore and describe these metaphysical ideas mathematically.

When it comes to these categories, each category could reflect infinity. Just as any ray of light that creates a projection of consciousness (creation) at any level of splitting is infinite. These rays are never finite; they are cyclical yet infinite, in the sense that the length of this cycle and the time it will end are not predefined, making them infinite. This is very grateful.

Great insightful discussion here… its important though to remember this key distinction below about mathematics… This was brought up with discussing Dewey Larsons material.

" Ra: I am Ra. This concept is incorrect as is any concept of the one intelligent infinity. This concept is correct in the context of one particular Logos, or Love, or focus of this Creator which has chosen Its, shall we say, natural laws and ways of expressing them mathematically and otherwise.

The one undifferentiated intelligent infinity, unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being. We are messengers of the Law of One. Unity, at this approximation of understanding, cannot be specified by any physics but only be activated or potentiated intelligent infinity due to the catalyst of free will. This may be difficult to accept. However, the understandings we have to share begin and end in mystery."

Yes, I have that in mind. I referred to it subtly:

I would distinguish three main ways of knowing:

1st Level: Through logic, analysis, and scientific methods. This includes disciplines such as mathematics and physics.

2nd Level: Cognition through intuition and deep emotions. This involves opening up to true consciousness, often referred to as the subconscious or unconscious.

3rd Level: Mystery. At this level, cognition transcends all definitions and becomes something entirely different.

It is important to remember that mathematics, as an example of the first level, serves to represent and study finite things. A mathematician might access the infinite through the subconscious, but ultimately, their work focuses on clarifying the finite.

The second level is more advanced, bridging the finite and the infinite. Here, things can appear totally illogical and irrational from a rational mind’s perspective. However, the spiritual world is different and profound, where intelligence is measured through emotion and intuition.

The third level is essentially inaccessible to us directly. It is somewhat influenced by our spiritual, emotional, and intuitive nature. In truth, it is only comprehensible to intelligence and consciousness of intelligent infinity, allowing to perceive beyond the first and second levels.

To sum up, deeper and more accurate knowledge occurs through intuition and the subconscious. However, the conscious mind examines things differently, discovering and understanding aspects that intuition and the subconscious cannot reach.

Work at the first level is “lower” relative to work at the second level. Nevertheless, it is crucial to recognize that the Creator understands Himself on various levels. As we develop and learn mathematics, the Creator gains better self-knowledge through us.

Science and mathematics allow us to study manifest and finite things, and to explore the distorted nature of reality. However, when it comes to the direct study (without any assumptions or approximations) of unity and intelligent infinity, mathematics will be absolutely useless.

Regarding emotions/intuition/subconscious, these seem the most agile. However, it must be acknowledged that they never fully touch the roots of the mysteries of infinity (intelligent infinity), nor do they reach high enough to find and prove themselves through the expanding awareness of the conscious mind.