Q’uotes Discussions

In my opinion, it is more about recognizing what the Creator, would like to give through us, to a person and what the Creator perceives is necessary for the person and what we, objectively seeing, are able to give.

Obviously, we are not immediately able to recognize what the Creator desires to give through us to that particular person, while recognizing this is part of our natural development and becoming a Creator by self.

This process of getting to know, really involves, getting to know ourselves, the people we want to serve and the will of Creator, simultaneously.

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All of this is interpretation, and you may see something I don’t, but more or less, yes. Notice they don’t mention “desire,” though. When they speak of desire generally, they are speaking of a metaphysical current, a natural drawing towards the upward spiraling light that interacts with our will (the distinction between desire and will is an interesting topic but beyond the scope here). Desire is the engine of evolution; will, the transmission connecting the engine’s power to the pavement of the path.

Those of Ra say that putting yourself in the other self’s shoes allows you to grasp in a more simple, straight ahead manner what service one can meaningfully perform for the other self. Desire doesn’t enter in yet; they instead focus on what service is necessary and what service is possible. To perform a service that is unnecessary is to infringe; to fulfill a desire that is impossible is obviously not a duty to which one can be held.

I may be getting too textual, but I think there’s a clue here we can learn from. These considerations come before the extremely tricky task of figuring out what the other desires, almost as if they constitute a kind of heuristic for ruling out service. Of course it’s hard to understand how to truly serve, but it seems like maybe part of the trick is figuring out when not to attempt to fulfill a request. No matter how much I might desire to live on Mars, for example, if it’s not necessary or possible to fulfill the desire, then it doesn’t really matter how much I desire it – you will not be able to serve me in the way I wish.

Service is one of the most direct ways in which we partake of the creative power of the Creator as sub-sub-Logoi. It is the way that love actually gets expressed. But abstaining from service can also convey love. And even if the other does not appreciate it, one can show love to the self for being boggled by the immensity of the task the illusion places before one.

Kind of like the Hippocratic oath, perhaps the seeker’s prime directive should be to first do not mis-serve by infringement or taking on service so impossible to fulfill that it takes us beyond our ability to balance. This is perhaps where wanderers come in to bring higher density perspectives, as it is green ray martyrdom of great love to strive to serve where it is hopeless. But the blue ray brings wisdom to help make that love effective, to shift the transmission into the right gear so that the ideal traction in the illusion is achieved. And when the inability to serve breaks one’s heart, one has the understanding that this is to be balanced and not resented.

All just my 2 cents.

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So lovely Quan. … thank you for all those last messages…

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Magnetism is related to light. It is interesting to see these aurora phenomena occurring in different parts of the planet, not just the poles, bearing in mind that the yellow ray light density is extinguished and replaced by the green ray light density.

Of course, I don’t know if there is a direct cause-and-effect relationship and this is only such a correlation. However, it is interesting. If so then the electromagnetic activity of the Sun is increasing or the electromagnetic field of Earth is weakening, or there is a third option, both are happening. Things are clearly accelerating in my opinion…

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That last time we had aurora like we did this weekend in the UK was in 2003 an d that was caused by an x40 flare. This weekend the geomagnetic storms was caused by a x1 flare. If that’s not proof of the earths wearing magnetic field I don’t know what is. Personally I think we may be closer to the harvest than we realise. Ra says the harvest happens around every 25,000 yrs and from geomagnetic evidence found in rocks and plants etc they reckon the earths poles flip around every 24-25,000 years. Coincidence? There are no coincidences. Only a cause and effect not yet recognised.

Whatever happen remember to stay in your happy place. Keep searching for that love in every waking moment and remember the end of this ‘experience’ is simply the start of another. It’s an exciting time to be alive for sure and I’m hoping I’ll eventually remember why I chose to be here at this time!

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K.K.33 and Tomhumble, thank you for the comments and especially can see about your points about things are clearly accelerating…
That change is very evident, just by watching this document yesterday I noticed that “Our Living World” that movement when I was child and teenager about nature being more survival of the fittest… to a more collaborative model of interconnectedness, which it talks about in that documentary, especially in the first episode demonstrated by science.

It is definitely exiting time to be alive… just seeing such much changes moving from that more mixed polarity to more positive and how that is happening increasingly over the years and will look to continue accelerating.

p.s
Just a side note… as it was happening there was such a feeling of profound peace, meditation easily occurred if I allowed it too, that did carry on today to mothers day… ahh a nice synchronicty!

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I add my voice to these kind words. There are days when one has a lot of work to do and only has time to enter here for Q’uotes. As it turns out, sometimes that’s enough, because the selected passages are intriguing enough to effectively plant a seed in the mind and subconscious that ripens throughout a day of quiet contemplation.

Such a simple gesture as these quotes and additional comments can, at least for me, keep me in constant regularity to come here and read. And what stays in the head works somewhere in the background of the mind, yielding results.

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Beautiful thank you Quan, I sure appreciate the service you provide. Much love brother

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K.K.33, thank you ahh could feel such emotion embedded in those words… such a gift to read!
I find when enter here, its helps peel back that curtain of the veil and feel at home again, in the sense that this illusion is like holiday. A holiday that can seem quite the opposite sometimes :innocent:

hounsic, thank you too your support over all this time has truly been invaluable.
Ahh i wont say anymore dont want to appear like a good bye haha

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For those who don’t have the time to delve deeply into Q’uo material, I recommend Jim’s “The Camelot Journal” (The Camelot Journal), which offers content similar to the “Daily Q’uo’tes.”

Many of you may already be familiar with it. However, for newcomers or those with limited time to explore the available material, it’s worth mentioning again.

One special aspect of this blog is Jim’s commentary, which can be particularly helpful for those who find Q’uo’s teachings challenging to understand. Q’uo’s material is undoubtedly advanced, building on previous teachings from Ra, Hatonn, and Latwii.

Jim’s comments, which summarize and express his understanding of the material, are very helpful. They are personally helping me in developing a balanced interpretation and deeper understanding of Q’uo’s words.

Example from today:

The group question for this session concerned the flow of energy in the healer. The first part of the question was when the healer is preparing to purify itself as a healer, does the healing energy flow from the top of the energy centers to the bottom, or from the bottom to the top? The second part of the question was the same but regarding how this energy flowed when the healer was offering itself to another person who needed the healing. Q’uo began by saying that there are many techniques of visualization that may be used, but Q’uo said that it would share the instrument’s practice washing the hands, cleansing the mouth, and emptying the bladder as symbolic of ridding itself of any negativity. Then the instrument would visualize the first three energy centers separately, then together, and then move on the heart center and then back to the first three to see all of them in combination as the foundation for the work in the heart center. Then the blue and indigo centers would be visualized to balance the totality of the energy centers working together. Then Q’uo said that it was well to utilize a protective ritual to aid the process using the energy centers for healing by invoking the Christ and the archangels of the four directions to lend their energies of protection as the healing process was undertaken. Q’uo completed their response by saying that there was no direction as such that was necessary for using the energy centers, but the readying of each cell of the whole self as being hollow receptacles through which the infinite Creator might do Its work. On May 8, 1993, Q’uo spoke of how the healer may become a vessel through which the infinite Creator may do Its work:
2024-05-24 – The Camelot Journal

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Thanks for sharing brother.

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79.5 However, it is inappropriate to move more quickly than one’s feet may walk.

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Thank you Quan, this is such a remarkable post about diverse elements of who Jesus was.

As an added note, I am re-readig for the nth time, Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda, and as you read through the chapters where he is instructed by his master, Sri Ukteswar, there are many mentions about Jesus., and the peace kingdom within. :smiling_face:

lol. I am a big groupie of Parmahansa… :joy:

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Thank you too, yes that transcript was remarkable for my own catalyst, much to chew on for meditation. Especially the part of technique mention when dealing with anger or sorrow etc with others or oneself. All the visions conjured reading about his meditation spot in his youth… Much more of course.
That book a fascinating read, I brought a copy of the book… Haha but my initiation stopped me from reading after the talk of heaven(amazing read that). I love his masters book, Holy Science too. Of course discrimination can be used for any of those texts, what feels right for oneself… especially reflecting on modern times but neverless much gems in both. Have you read much of other books, on masters mentions in it, Lahiri Mahasaya. Baba Lokenath or Babaji, or
Bijoy Krishna Goswami and especially his disciplines huge diary, have a copy but like above book i read most but initiation stopped me again! That disciple is called Sri Kuladananda Brahmachari. It was such a long time ago, I went through huge amount of reading of all that, an many other books… around that era ahhh maybe should revist… well if heart permits :innocent:

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SO agree,… Yes the Holy Science is just a lovely reading. I had a small initiation in Kriya Yoga and I shut find today bliss nearly constantly by simply thinking about Divine Mother despite the apparent surround chaos.
I read a little but but a long time ago on Babaji and Lahiri Mhasay, but not Bijou Krishna GOswami nor his disciples.

I just find any talk by Yogananda just to my taste, lol

I meant o return more regularly to this web site. I have just been a little busy on my side, lol

Do take care Quan, so good to read you !!

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Well Goswami, is slightly off track there and others I mentioned… yes long time ago too I went through a huge intuition led study of many of those biographies, teachings and readings of those masters. So if you ever want any other recommendations let know :wink:

Quality over quantity, just one message from you is so valuable , thanks again.

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It is really beautiful Quan, thank you.
I see in myself that when I was young, I wanted to give love which I saw definitely as a love coming from myself. As such it was seen as very personal, and sometimes I think I was seeing myself as drained because I thought there was a limit to the love I was giving., lol

Then finding buddhism in my early twenties, the beginning of discovering bliss started me on a love that was much less personal and something much more limitless coming from definitely another source, but because I am so dense, :joy: it took me a few more years I think, lol, to really feel this impersonal love was from the Source or Creator

Evidently that love is limitless, and I not only stopped from feeling drained but in fact started to be plenty nourished by it. :blush:

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Thank you too for sharing such insight, that is a key part in learning in open ones heart and giving an example like that can help or allow others to relate to… very appreciated.

For me in that sense, what comes to mind is when in high school I was tended to be the one helping others and being there, it did get to a point over the years though when I realised… to listen to heart more and not have to think I need to be there for everyone… theirs a right time when people need to go through their own experiences even if it may not seem positive… we each have our own path and sometimes those detours are required to go off path and learn different lessons of love(myself included of course!). A shift happened where instead of looking to fix or help I instead was focusing on that state of love instead, for instance humour or just listening is enough sometimes too.

“You are love. You are capable of offering love through yourself—not your love, but the love of the one Creator that flows through you in an unending stream.”"

“Then finding buddhism in my early twenties”
That sounds fascinating… you dropped the breadcombs there can you pave the way with more words on how that happened if you dont mind… law of free will/confusion and all :laughing:

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Lol Quan, I am not sure if my experience is that interesting but there it s about getting into Buddhism…

I was born in france of really lovely parents not religious but being themselves Protestants. Protestants in France was a minuscule minority at the time, I guess they still are. There’s only one church, and it’s extremely open minded and liberal, more like Unitarian here.

I was not really religious at all but I loved the idea that I was raised that if you wanted to talk to his, you just did and it was something between you and him and no need of anyone else.

At the end high school I fell on a book on Zen Buddhism and I was just taken by a poetic side to it. I started to study books and meditate at the same time. Along my twenties I just kept meditating and, lol, just loving it. At the same time I started to read Yogananda and I was hooked.

Whence the interest I had for the Law of One which has some parallels I think with Buddhism and the world of Rishis.
So I think my oath was pretty simple really,:blush:

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Thank you for providing some insights into the world of flofrog :wink: Its a real strong diverse mix to help catapault you into the world of seeking!
Yes its a detour from the direct quote discussions but neverless… its great to have these type of chats to build into the background and what constitutes the mix of this forum. An personally I find it very interesting!
It was a book that got into the zen buddhism… what was the connection to law of one, the trigger the opened the doorway?
For myself its very obscure… way it was a band I listened sometime ago in the past yet hadn’t heard for some time, when realising their lyrics where quite occult talking on third eye and so forth, I revisited them and look at their lyrics online to see the meaning behind it and words… somehow I then too decided to look at peoples comments on their lyrics just on a random lyric website and in one of the comments someone mentioned Law of One(thank you and please reveal yourself if you are still around here as there is infinite gratitude to you!) It would have been 2009 or 2010? Cant recall exactly in this moment now.

Ahh the power of synchronicity and spiritual inklings! The band was Tool by the way.

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