Synchronicity! Worship and it’s place in my life have been on my mind recently. Thanks for sharing these channelings.
Ah, so that’s why extraterrestrials are keeping silence. 
P.S. Very good advice.
That idea of us each expressing as a note being part of our energy signature is also very nicely discussed, as is the musical nature of the Great pyramid and all of the pyramids, by polymath Robert Edward Grant, a modern day very highly attuned being, who shares many insights in his Merry Christ Consciousness presentation on Youtube and Telegram. You can google this talk ot search it on You tube. He refeence the Ra contact and the principles of the LoO in the rpesentation, and adds much very compelling understanding and assimilation of his recent multiple discoveries in the King’s Chamber and in writings and etchings on the walls of other pyramids nearby, and how they all work together to create harmonic resonance and upward spiraling connection to the One Infinite Creator in each and every one of us. He presents entirely newly discovered corrolaries with the LoO and the ideas of sumultaneity of time, why we’re often afraid to transmute and integrate our shadow sides, and much info on our ascension and our movement into the 4th density and onward to the physical expression of the 5th. Very potent information I can’t recommend enough!
Around the tick of the clock,
I pondered this idea…
“despite adversity,
despite any sense of hopelessness,
I still want to love you.”
Maybe 2024 can improve on 2023!
So session 48 shared this week
reminds me of a sort of generation gap
with millennials - I ask what is their
favorite dead song and they draw some
blank, and it’s like uh-oh, someone
skipped class in grammar school.
But hey, maybe that’s okay.
This week I reflect on poetry like
pictures - how so many photos are
taken but so few, so many few seem
keepers.
I cannot hope for any
poetic keepers - but it doesn’t stop
me from trying. As I said,
despite adversity,
despite any sense of hopelessness,
I still want to love you!
SCARLET CENTERS (Song beat similar to
Grateful Dead, Scarlet Begonias)
As I pondered Ra session number forty eight’s care.
Got a clue to it’s rhythm in the silent air.
From some other dimension
the Dead they sang on by.
It could be distortion
but it’s no matter why
no matter why
There was talk of the spirit
fused to the bones
And I knew by the reading
there was sex beyond knowns
With scarlet centers
active all through the crown
I knew how voltage blows out circuits
with a loud sound, with a loud sound
There was talk of the fears
and talk of the rough
I skim past the passages
of that transient stuff
Some life after death things
they explain a bit more
Felt sleepy with lapses
I’d read it before, read it before
There’s a circle of life
with ties to death strong
Our indigo body shuttles us along
Angels may bring us into the light
When harmonious balance
weighs us just right
weighs us just right
We’re born complete with all potential grooves
With scarlet centers
along with the blues
We activate by actions
within our lives
Color penetrations
we sometimes pass by
sometimes pass by
In blend upon one we layer true
Sinking as yellow or rising as blue
Strangers stack upon strangers
to reincarnate again
Everybody’s sharing
in our space time plan
our space time plan
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Both of these thoughts reminded me of this poem I found last week.
The Thing Is (Ellen Bass)
to love life, to love it even
when you have no stomach for it
and everything you’ve held dear
crumbles like burnt paper in your hands,
your throat filled with the silt of it.
When grief sits with you, its tropical heat
thickening the air, heavy as water
more fit for gills than lungs;
when grief weighs you down like your own flesh
only more of it, an obesity of grief,
you think, How can a body withstand this?
Then you hold life like a face
between your palms, a plain face,
no charming smile, no violet eyes,
and you say, yes, I will take you
I will love you, again.
This peace is not still. Full of noise and prayer. I like to imagine holding life and all its catalysts, the building up and the tearing down, like a face between two palms and saying I will love you, again. And again. And again.
Happy New Year to all
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This idea reminds me of neural connections
within the brain, how neurons trigger and
cascade in response to a dancing thought.
The end found of a straight and narrow path
reminds me of a photon - light is often thought
of as traveling a path of least time, i.e. Fermat’s
principle. For example, laser beams go straight.
I think of Ra as traveling by thought from
Venus to Saturn - as using a sort of straight
line path. I also ponder some sort of
reverence in alignment of altar items
may relate to an idea of such lines.
The Masons recognize geometry as having
significance, and are sometimes associated
to mysteries such as pyramids, and outer
space things; NASA as having many high
degree astronauts fluent in such ideas.
In any case, having a laser focus on
whatever you’re seeking may accelerate
progress in finding something out, like
tapping into intelligent infinity to get
a satisfactory answer.
In the paradigm of the Matrix archetype,
there’s an initiated reach out of some
constrained circumstance that sparks
an evolutionary experience.
A person may have a question and the
uncertainty or unknowing-ness catalyzes
some seeking action which might be
re-framed as “giving of opportunity” in
this context of communicating.
So Don repeatedly journeyed out of the
Matrix by way of some probing questions,
Don gave the world a taste of true curiosity
and I think this irreversibly evolved him
in profound ways few experience.
I think if someone took Don’s questions
and posed them to human beings, the
answers might seem less profound, but
some evolutionary bump might happen.
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So at present we have 2 bodies and upon death just 1?
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To my understanding we as human beings are mind/body/spirit complexes. Just after death we loose our body and we become mind/spirit complex.
We still maintain our mentality on an immaterial level and continue to exist in the 3rd Density, except that as spirits. Here we have all these trappings, beliefs about ourselves and the world, we even identify with gender, even though we don’t have material bodies as such. Johnny who passed yesterday, he is still only Johnny, just dead, but still our Johnny, doesn’t really enlightened being.
After losing the mental body, we move towards higher Densities, where we lose from mind/spirit complex mind and become spirit complex. At these higher levels we reach the 4th Density, where we feel a connection with the entire Universe and the Creator. It’s a more enlightening experience.
And higher up we have the 5th Density it opens us to all the knowledge that is in the Universe. This reality allows us to understand the most intricate things in a reflexive, telepathic and intuitive way. Our consciousness is embedded in what in mortal life we know as the subconscious, and all the knowledge that is can come to us in the form of impulses and feelings, which contain complexity of hundreds of thousands of bits of information.
Even higher we have the 6th Density, this is the level of our Higher Self, our Soul and our total being. And in all this there is a paradox, because on the one hand we lose our parts of ourselves, we stop manifesting at the lower levels. For example, our consciousness doesn’t choose to manifest at the 3rd level of Density by taking on a physical body and starting to use the conscious mind, although on the other hand it has all these memories from the lower levels and can recall any physical experience and feel it again, can recall the ability to wield the conscious mind and use it carefully in every possible way.
I’ve read such stories about this other side, where simply people created cozy houses in the countryside thanks to the mind, where they lived and that is, they had physical sensations and bodies. However, it was all a product of their own thoughts and was not a physical body as we know it, and yet the totality of the physical sensations could be preserved.
So on the one hand, we lose these individual parts of our complex and only this spiritual body remains. On the other hand, we have full access to our entire totality and can recreate our entire mind/body/spirit complex. The fact that we die and lose our body is, in a sense, merely an illusion.
The mind/body/spirit complex continues. All its components are distributed somewhere between Density 1 and 6. And we choose at which levels we want to manifest our self/awarness. Probably this our individual identity is refracted into the transition to 7th Density, i.e. becoming one with the Creator.
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Okay thanks for the question, so lets untangle this, there are 7 bodies … which can be in potentiation. These are listed below… all this discussion is from session 47 in Law of One\RA Contact. In this density given it is the third, the third body is main one you see now. Upon death is the seventh. This is all discussed below in the quotes…
" 47.9 Questioner: Which bodies do we have immediately after physical death from this yellow-ray body that I now inhabit?
Ra: I am Ra. You have all bodies in potentiation."
Ra: I am Ra. Not immediately. The first body which activates itself upon death is the “form-maker,” or the indigo-ray body. This body remains—you have called it the “ka”—until etherea has been penetrated and understanding has been gained by the mind/body/spirit totality. Once this is achieved, if the proper body to be activated is green-ray, then this will occur.
" 47.8 Questioner: In our esoteric literature numerous bodies are listed. I have here a list of the physical body, the etheric, the emotional, the astral, and the mental. Can you tell me if this listing is the proper number, and can you tell me the uses and purposes and effects, etc., of each of these, or any other bodies that may be in our mind/body/spirit complex?
Ra: I am Ra. To answer your query fully would be the work of many sessions such as this one, for the interrelationships of the various bodies, and each body’s effects in various situations, is an enormous study. However, we shall begin by referring your minds back to the spectrum of true colors and the usage of this understanding in grasping the various densities of your octave.
We have the number seven repeated from the macrocosm to the microcosm in structure and experience. Therefore, it would only be expected that there would be seven basic bodies which we would perhaps be most lucid by stating as red-ray body, etc. However, we are aware that you wish to correspond these bodies mentioned with the color rays. This will be confusing, for various teachers have offered their teach/learning understanding in various terms. Thus one may name a subtle body one thing and another find a different name.
The red-ray body is your chemical body. However, it is not the body which you have as clothing in the physical. It is the unconstructed material of the body, the elemental body without form. This basic unformed material body is important to understand, for there are healings which may be carried out by the simple understanding of the elements present in the physical vehicle.
The orange-ray body is the physical body complex. This body complex is still not the body you inhabit but rather the body formed without self-awareness, the body in the womb before the spirit/mind complex enters. This body may live without the inhabitation of the mind and spirit complexes. However, it seldom does so.
The yellow-ray body is your physical vehicle which you know of at this time and in which you experience catalyst. This body has the mind/body/spirit characteristics and is equal to the physical illusion, as you have called it.
The green-ray body is that body which may be seen in séance when what you call ectoplasm is furnished. This is a lighter body packed more densely with life. You may call this the astral body following some other teachings. Others have called this same body the etheric body. However, this is not correct in the sense that the etheric body is that body of gateway wherein intelligent energy is able to mold the mind/body/spirit complex.
The light body, or blue-ray body, may be called the devachanic body. There are many other names for this body, especially in your so-called Indian Sutras or writings, for there are those among these peoples which have explored these regions and understand the various types of devachanic bodies. There are many, many types of bodies in each density, much like your own.
The indigo-ray body, which we choose to call the etheric body, is, as we have said, the gateway body. In this body form is substance, and you may only see this body as that of light as it may mold itself as it desires.
The violet-ray body may perhaps be understood as what you might call the Buddha body, or that body which is complete.
Each of these bodies has an effect upon your mind/body/spirit complex in your life beingness. The interrelationships, as we have said, are many and complex.
Perhaps one suggestion that may be indicated is this: The indigo-ray body may be used by the healer once the healer becomes able to place its consciousness in this etheric state. The violet-ray, or Buddhic, body is of equal efficacy to the healer, for within it lies a sense of wholeness which is extremely close to unity with all that there is. These bodies are part of each entity, and the proper use of them, and understanding of them is, though far advanced from the standpoint of third-density harvest, nevertheless useful to the adept."
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KK.3 the way you have described, has provided learning for myself to an appreciate that. Now whatever truth for someone is fine and what reasonates is most important. In the context of this material though the meaning is different. Which I will address now…
" 30.2 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define mind, body, and spirit separately?
Ra: I am Ra. These terms are all simplistic descriptive terms which equal a complex of energy focuses; the body, as you call it, being the material of the density which you experience at a given space/time or time/space; this complex of materials being available for distortions of what you would call physical manifestation.
The mind is a complex which reflects the inpourings of the spirit and the up-pourings of the body complex. It contains what you know as feelings, emotions, and intellectual thoughts in its more conscious complexities. Moving further down the tree of mind we see the intuition, which is of the nature of the mind more in contact, or in tune, with the total beingness complex. Moving down to the roots of mind we find the progression of consciousness which gradually turns from the personal to the racial memory to the cosmic influxes, and thus becomes a direct contactor of that shuttle which we call the spirit complex.
This spirit complex is the channel whereby the inpourings from all of the various universal, planetary, and personal inpourings may be funneled into the roots of consciousness, and whereby consciousness may be funneled to the gateway of intelligent infinity through the balanced intelligent energy of body and mind.
You will see by this series of definitive statements that mind, body, and spirit are inextricably intertwined and cannot continue, one without the other. Thus we refer to the mind/body/spirit complex rather than attempting to deal with them separately, for the work, shall we say, that you do during your experiences is done through the interaction of these three components, not through any one."
So mind body spirit complext is together even in the higher densites… as mentioned in time/space, which were predominance of those densities lie."
Now to bring this back to the question on death
" 30.3 Questioner: Upon our physical death, as we call it, from this particular density and this particular incarnative experience, we lose this chemical body. Immediately after the loss of this chemical body, do we maintain a different type of body? Is there still a mind/body/spirit complex at that point?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The mind/body/spirit complex is quite intact; the physical body complex you now associate with the term “body” being but manifestation of a more dense, and intelligently informed, and powerful body complex."
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I wrote in the previous post:
Dear Quan,
From the bottom of my heart, I would like to greet you in the spirit of friendship. At first, I wish to express my sincere apologies for any unfortunate misstatements on my part that may not have fully conveyed our common vision and understanding.
Reflecting on our conversations, I realize that my initial awkwardness stemmed from a difficulty in reconciling a certain kind of paradox. On the one hand, we observe the physical body, our manifested body complex, which disintegrates after death. On the other hand, the holistic mind/body/spirit complex continues, undisturbed, undergoing only a process of metamorphosis.
Upon closer examination of our views, it becomes apparent to me that we are essentially expressing very similar concepts. You, Quan, emphasizing the unwavering continuity of the body/mind/spirit complex through various densities, and I, trying to explain how this complex evolves and undergoes transformation, are indeed speaking about the same universal truths, albeit from slightly different perspectives.
What unites our thinking and understanding is a deep appreciation for the inseparable bond between all aspects of our being and the endless journey each of us embarks on, exploring the unfathomable mysteries of creation.
With love and kindness, I bid you farewell, Quan, hoping for a further deepening of our community of thought and spirit. May our shared journey continue to be rich in discoveries and mutual understanding.
With warmth,
K.K.33
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I must admit that I am currently confused when it comes to all these bodies, minds and spirit…
Ultimately, I decided that a general map for this could be something like the following:
| Body | Mind | Spirit |
|---|---|---|
| Red Ray Body | Unconscious Physical Mind (Instincts) | Portion of the Spirit/Intelligent Infinity/Creator Experiencing and Knowing Itself |
| Orange Ray Body | Subconscious Mind (Emotions) | Portion of the Spirit/Intelligent Infinity/Creator Experiencing and Knowing Itself |
| Yellow Ray Body | Conscious Mind (Analytical Mind) | Portion of the Spirit/Intelligent Infinity/Creator Experiencing and Knowing Itself |
| Green Ray Body | Subconscious/Superconscious Mind (Higher Emotions/Heart ‘Mind’) | Portion of the Spirit/Intelligent Infinity/Creator Experiencing and Knowing Itself |
| Blue Ray Body | Subconscious Mind/Superconscious Mind (Higher Intuition) | Portion of the Spirit/Intelligent Infinity/Creator Experiencing and Knowing Itself |
| Indigo Ray Body | Mind Connecting Two: Heart and Intuition | Portion of the Spirit/Intelligent Infinity/Creator Experiencing and Knowing Itself |
| Violet Ray Body | Cosmic Mind (Totality of All Minds) | Totality of the Spirit/Intelligent Infinity/Creator |
I undertook such a comparison. The whole is simply the Mind/Body/Spirit Complex, as one holistic whole that lasts forever. If I had to create an analogy, I would say: The body is like a car. The higher the body, the different the car with different possibilities. The mind is like the driver in this car. The higher the mind, the more skilled and better adapted driver. Then the spirit is the pilot of this driver. He prepares a rally plan, maintains contact with the driver, and gains experience from each rally with all what is happening.
@Quan
Does this make sense to you and is it consistent with the Confederation material and your knowledge?
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Because I have troubles in explanation of this topic I’m abstaining from comments. But I will add session 47 upon the subject.
47.8
47.8 Questioner: In our esoteric literature numerous bodies are listed. I have here a list of the physical body, the etheric, the emotional, the astral, and the mental. Can you tell me if this listing is the proper number, and can you tell me the uses and purposes and effects, etc., of each of these or any other bodies that may be in our mind/body/spirit complex?
Ra: I am Ra. To answer your query fully would be the work of many sessions such as this one, for the interrelationships of the various bodies and each body’s effects in various situations is an enormous study. However, we shall begin by referring your minds back to the spectrum of true colors and the usage of this understanding in grasping the various densities of your octave.
We have the number seven repeated from the macrocosm to the microcosm in structure and experience. Therefore, it would only be expected that there would be seven basic bodies which we would perhaps be most lucid by stating as red-ray body, etc. However, we are aware that you wish to correspond these bodies mentioned with the color rays. This will be confusing, for various teachers have offered their teach/learning understanding in various terms. Thus one may name a subtle body one thing and another find a different name.
The red-ray body is your chemical body. However, it is not the body which you have as clothing in the physical. It is the unconstructed material of the body, the elemental body without form. This basic unformed material body is important to understand for there are healings which may be carried out by the simple understanding of the elements present in the physical vehicle.
The orange-ray body is the physical body complex. This body complex is still not the body you inhabit but rather the body formed without self-awareness, the body in the womb before the spirit/mind complex enters. This body may live without the inhabitation of the mind and spirit complexes. However, it seldom does so.
The yellow-ray body is your physical vehicle which you know of at this time and in which you experience catalyst. This body has the mind/body/spirit characteristics and is equal to the physical illusion, as you have called it.
The green-ray body is that body which may be seen in séance when what you call ectoplasm is furnished. This is a lighter body packed more densely with life. You may call this the astral body following some other teachings. Others have called this same body the etheric body. However, this is not correct in the sense that the etheric body is that body of gateway wherein intelligent energy is able to mold the mind/body/spirit complex.
The light body or blue-ray body may be called the devachanic body. There are many other names for this body especially in your so-called Indian Sutras or writings, for there are those among these peoples which have explored these regions and understand the various types of devachanic bodies. There are many, many types of bodies in each density, much like your own.
The indigo-ray body which we choose to call the etheric body is, as we have said, the gateway body. In this body form is substance and you may only see this body as that of light as it may mold itself as it desires.
The violet-ray body may perhaps be understood as what you might call the Buddha body or that body which is complete.
Each of these bodies has an effect upon your mind/body/spirit complex in your life beingness. The interrelationships, as we have said, are many and complex.
Perhaps one suggestion that may be indicated is this: The indigo-ray body may be used by the healer once the healer becomes able to place its consciousness in this etheric state. The violet-ray or Buddhic body is of equal efficacy to the healer for within it lies a sense of wholeness which is extremely close to unity with all that there is. These bodies are part of each entity and the proper use of them and understanding of them is, though far advanced from the standpoint of third-density harvest, nevertheless useful to the adept.
47.9 Questioner: Which bodies do we have immediately after physical death from this yellow-ray body that I now inhabit?
Ra: I am Ra. You have all bodies in potentiation.
47.10 Questioner: Then the yellow-ray body in potentiation is used to create the chemical arrangement that I have as a physical body now. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect only in that in your present incarnation the yellow-ray body is not in potentiation but in activation, it being that body which is manifest.
47.11 Questioner: Then, after death from this incarnation we still have the yellow-ray body in potentiation, but then is, perhaps, say in the general case of our planetary population after death, would they then normally have the green-ray body manifested?
Ra: I am Ra. Not immediately. The first body which activates itself upon death is the “form-maker” or the indigo-ray body. This body remains— you have called it the “ka”— until etherea has been penetrated and understanding has been gained by the mind/body/spirit totality. Once this is achieved, if the proper body to be activated is green-ray, then this will occur.
47.12 Questioner: Let me make a statement and see if I am correct. After death then, if an entity is unaware, he may become what is called an Earth-bound spirit until he is able to achieve the required awareness for activation of one of the bodies. And it would be possible then to activate any of the bodies— would this go all the way from red through violet?
Ra: I am Ra. Given the proper stimulus, this is correct.
47.13 Questioner: What stimulus would create what we call an Earth-bound spirit or a lingering ghost?
Ra: I am Ra. The stimulus for this is the faculty of the will. If the will of yellow-ray mind/body/spirit is that which is stronger than the progressive impetus of the physical death towards realization of that which comes, that is, if the will is concentrated enough upon the previous experience, the entity’s shell of yellow ray, though no longer activated, cannot either be completely deactivated and, until the will is released, the mind/body/spirit complex is caught. This often occurs, as we see you are aware, in the case of sudden death as well as in the case of extreme concern for a thing or an other-self.
47.14 Questioner: Well then, does orange-ray activation after death occur very frequently with this planet?
Ra: I am Ra. Quite infrequently, due to the fact that this particular manifestation is without will. Occasionally an other-self will so demand the form of the one passing through the physical death that some semblance of the being will remain. This is orange ray. This is rare, for normally if one entity desires another enough to call it, the entity will have the corresponding desire to be called. Thus the manifestation would be the shell of yellow ray.
47.15 Questioner: What does the large percentage of the Earth’s population, as they pass from the physical, activate?
Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working.
The normal procedure, given an harmonious passage from yellow-ray bodily manifestation, is for the mind and spirit complex to rest in the etheric or indigo body until such time as the entity begins its preparation for experience in an incarnated place which has a manifestation formed by the etheric energy molding it into activation and manifestation. This indigo body, being intelligent energy, is able to offer the newly dead, as you would term it, soul a perspective and a place from which to view the experience most recently manifested.
Is there a short query we may answer at this time?
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Thank you for the kind and very thoughtful message, could feel it coming straight from the heart.
Try not to get to bogged down with all the detail, just the essence of each concept is enough. Bodies are either in activation or potentiation, just as in a higher density bodies could access the lower bodies well in this density can access the higher density bodies, if not they are in potentiation. Like a radio station or an old TV tuning in, well that is simplistic linear example. Throw in that all time past present future is happening right now.
Mind/Body/ Spirit complex is more a way for RA to call us or other entities as the name more actively reflects us rather than saying calling us people, which depending on the context either or other words are used.
To understand mind/body and spirit is a lengthy process… one such process talked about in Law of One is the study of Tarot and archetypes. 7 cards for mind, 7 for body, 7 for spirit, and the choice card. Instead of linking the energy centers to the mind this will open up a new path of understanding… if that is type of study that beckons you… Or tree of life or astrology which arent talked about in depth in the material but are mentioned as alternative paths depending what reasonates with the person.
Also in yesterdays daily quote i provided a link to the concept guide which can certainly be of great assistance without going down that path yet.
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Thanks, I think I even sound a bit, as for myself, unnatural and “pathetic” there, but I wanted to convey certain things and build a certain character to this message. Namely, it is important for me to point out that Yourselves and content on this site really matters for me. By which I would like to care about good relations between us. Material presented here is also important for me, I noticed that such Q’uo for some time now become something I live daily, reminding myself and applying various things. It really works when meditated and applied, not just read.
As for your comments about mind/body/spirit complex matter, I think they hit the spot. The optimal approach for me at the moment is just to maintain general concepts, to me it just comes down to recognizing the general three layers of my being, where the first is the needs and signals from the body, the second is the rational and analytical conscious mind, and the third is the subconscious/unconscious, which connects me to the deeper parts of myself, including my true self (what I really feel, desire, and my intuitions), which is currently experiencing embodiment in the body I have, and further and deeper connect me through the Higher Self to the Creator Itself.
If I want to go to a higher level, in discerning between the levels of body, mind and spirit, and discerning between these three. I will have to study the material you dedicated, among others, gain knowledge of each element, then look at it holistically. Along the way, observing myself and exploring myself, building an intuitive and self-explanatory picture of all these connections and what role each of the gears plays (mind, body, spirit). And then possibly we can come back to the discussion with me prepared to understand things even better.
Thank you and have a good day
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There is nothing greater in communication when words are spoken from the heart. As RA would say all is well my friend. Also your question allowed impetus for my own learning in order to answer by reviewing knowledge I had and looking into the material further. So we learn and teach one another. Not to mention this being a public platform for others too 
Its important to keep an open mind with any material, questioning it in fresh and unique ways to provide further insights… which is the basis of forums like this.
As example that comes to mind is this discussion, although its specifically about channeling it can be extrapolated to other areas too…
"I am Q’uo, and I’m aware of the query, my brother. There is indeed, as we understand, this circle has discussed in some terms, a what you may call double-edged aspect of this dynamic in which you, as channels who are attempting to serve, having come to this service through a very deliberate and informed body of information, that this process has created within you certain pathways, as we have referenced them, that restrict your ability and refine your cognition in certain ways that are both beneficial in receiving information through these pathways, but, because there is such a long lineage and solidified journey of these pathways, that it can be more difficult to broaden them and expand them to receive information that might be more novel or even completely outside of those aspects contained within the information that you have studied so thoroughly.
There is another complicating factor involved in this dynamic in that as you, as individual seekers, have taken it upon yourself to study this information so thoroughly, to contemplate and to apply it to your own lives, you each have very individual and idiosyncratic takes or perspectives on what this information really means and how it is relevant to you as a seeker. And this relevance then informs the pathways through which we are able to offer new information.
This might be illuminating and helpful in the process of coming to understand how you can massage and make these pathways more malleable, and contemplating how you as individuals have related to this information in your very thorough studies, and how you have applied it to your own life and to attempt to release these preconceived notions of the value of this information, for it is not that the value that you place upon it is harmful or distorted necessarily, but it does restrict these pathways in a very particular way."
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2023/1205
Please free to have future discussions on this or any thing else 
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I find this “or” in statement important. So Ra say there are two ways to past the boundary of third density: 1) Faith 2) Will (or both I think).
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Interesting that you pointed this out. I was just wondering the other day what faith is to Q’uo, and what will is. And at some point in their study, I noticed that will and faith often overlap in their understanding of these two.
The “or” in that example you cited is, to me, such an “or” as in computer science: An OR operation takes two arguments (values) and returns true if at least one of the arguments is true. In practice, this means:
- If both arguments are false, the result of the OR operation is false.
- If at least one of the arguments is true, the result of the OR operation is true (when both are true, the result of the operation, of course, is true).
This reminds me of a scene from The Matrix:
You need to have faith that you can jump far. Only that in order for the faith not to prove too weak it must be backed by a strong will. So much for having that strong will, you need to have faith in yourself and in general that you can use it in specific way. Although, one thing you must have mastered to perfection, and ideally if one complements the other (faith with will, because they are so close to each other).
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