I blame my “higher self” and say that when I die I will find him and try to kick his ass for putting me in this condition. 
Could “the guys” just stop injecting thoughts. A significant thought pops out of nowhere at interesting clock or movie time. For example, time 11:11 … I don’t need that, you are violating my free will !!! 
Kenturi I blame my “higher self” and say that when I die I will find him and try to kick his ass for putting me in this condition.
Kenturi Could “the guys” just stop injecting thoughts. A significant thought pops out of nowhere at interesting clock or movie time. For example, time 11:11 … I don’t need that, you are violating my free will !!!
I remember seeing a tv series… an the persons friends from the higher density or realm before coming here …would the ones doing that. After returning i like to imagine it would be a joke reflecting on your incarnation with them… * that was you that did that hmm!* The annoying law of confusion I had to wait to find that out! *In that tv series the significant turning points were known to those looking on, well probably the most hilarious times to make jokes or pranks also would be Maybe not funny of us in third density at the time though!
Sounds like an infinite work and feels heavy to me. If you take it serious, you need to relax, enjoy, don’t overstress, because there will be still work to do. Millions years of work. Thus, select the steady and comfortable pace and walk at that pace.
I think it means, that through the bad things, you discover the good ones. For example, by being in ugly physical shape you discover what is a beautiful physical shape; or in abusive relationship you discover value of caring relationship. Also, so called truth, the objective things in reality, for example what feelings and objects constitute yourself.
Notice the emotion and it’s cause, avoid the cause or engage in the cause purposefully ?
I don’t like the “hollower”, emptier", I would use “clearer”.
Too bad I can’t like my own comment haha 
Thanks for comments, just intuitively this transcript popped up and this passage in response so much appreciated.
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2018/0901
“Thus, though you are experiencing this, you are not aware of it. You may become aware of it by certain practices that involve the balancing of each energy center, seriatim, from the red through the violet. This is a process that those of Ra have called “the balancing of all catalyst” so that you do not pick and choose, shall we say, those things of which you approve, and those things of which you disapprove, but are able, at some point, to see the entire array or realm of experience that you have had as that which is the One Creator, with no distinction of good or bad.”
Which is the aftermath of this passage…as the transcript in daily quote is especially focus on on anger which as below is red ray and same sexual energy mentioned below both of the energy center…
". This energy is the energy of the creation. This energy that you call the sexual energy is the energy that is created and contained in and by each iota of the creation. For all the creation is the One Infinite Creator. As you experience this energy in your normal sexual exchanges of energy, you begin, and we stress begin, to appreciate what the very nature of creation is, for it all is of an orgasmic joy. There is nothing but this joy in the higher realms. Those within your illusion that are able to attempt to potentiate, and are able to do so, within their own life experience, have begun that process that each of you shall eventually realize in your own life—if not in in this one, then another. For this is your birthright. This is part of what propels you through the illusion.
But, much is shielded from the conscious knowledge of most entities upon your third-density planet. It is shielded in order to provide you a protection from energy which you are not able to process until you have made certain realizations or balances within your higher energy centers. This energy, if run through the circuit of your energy chakras without the opening of the higher chakras would be quite damaging to your energy centers."
I find this so truthful about joy
When I was 21 I fell in love with an older man but quite awesome being.
I remember being in this place where I had met him but being alone there and suddenly have this huge surge of incredible joy. I remember laughing at my own joy and wondering where all this sudden joy was coming from…
How funny, it was indeed some organism joy, but seemingly coming in such a random way that I remember laughing and really wondering where it was coming from.
I wish this to everyone., it was such a strange and yet beautifully thing at the same time. And I definitely see this as a birthright, now , for everyone indeed.
Haha I am liking your comment Kenturi, not for your sake 
, but for mine, lol
About ‘hollower’, though , it’s funny but in fact it works for me ; when I meditate I feel that gradually I sort of hollow my self, lol, so to each one their own hollower or clearer feeling 
Thank you flofrog, you always have such piercing, poignant examples its a gift indeed. I can see the zoomed out perspective but the zoomed in talks often are not so clear to me, which is spelled out well by your discussion and kenturi too, an even by this talk im doing right now oops 
It gives a good excuse too for me to talk on this “much is shielded from the conscious knowledge of most entities upon your third-density planet. It is shielded in order to provide you a protection from energy which you are not able to process until you have made certain realizations or balances within your higher energy centers.” The joy you talked about also, its so true as children especially younger the joy is naturally known but we can forget that in age. The blocking or over activation of energy centers limits that energy to the higher centers, that joy we are capable of experiencing is not able to be known or comprehended due to law of confusion an forgetting also, but each realisation we can unearth, what is a birthright within. I especially have experienced this, the joy is unfathomable an now way could I have handled it in earlier seeking, especially before that. It enables a deeper compassion too, as you see what sorrow people can live in… but its not really sorrow just not an awareness of what joy one is capable of too…beyond level of general happiness in third density.
Some thoughts from me,
The questions are for example, how can you let yourself to love a sex worker, an adulterous woman, a greedy woman who earns money the most easy way for a woman - selling her body. Well, you have joy watching her, want sex with her, but it is also a humiliation on your part and neglecting your way of live you want to live. It is not about “judgment”, it is acceptance that your desire for sex is stronger than your values. Is that really acceptable and forgivable ?
I think this can only be seen from “above”, the whole concept of “catalyst”, when you aware that you are incarnating to gather experience. Commonly among normal people this is expressed like “life is a lession”. I think in real life the catalyst is the problem and hindrance, because it takes time to overcome the hindrance to live a life you desire to live or which can be lived rationally. Simply put, you might “preprogrammed” such life experience that there is no way for you to feel content with life fully in your lifetime, which is cruel and not free. Edit 1: becoming a slave to the world in a sense.
I believe it is yes. We should have great compassion for ourselves. Especially when it comes to sex. Our societies have created so much negative thought patterns around sex.
Sometimes I feel that other people are non-player characters in gaming terms or non-actors in my reality. And I actually fear and it is uncomfortable to uncover if they really are such, kind of lonely world.
For example a synchronicity,
I did write a comment about Trump "“The king Trump in his castle at Mar-A-Lago ? He could do his job from Washington.”, on 20:18, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BskING0uG_8&lc=UgwK-lw0t92DXRF9Igl4AaABAg
On 21:31 Trump put in his Twitter/X account a poster of King Trump x.com
What I think is happening, is that Trump kind of serve me to provide a catalyst for me to ponder. Quite a pretentious statement, I don’t want to brag (like he does ), but rationally and scientifically it is needed to make to reach knowledge.
Edit 1: probably will delete it shortly, because too much bragging.
It is not about negativity per se, as I understand. It is about problem of balancing, you might be fantasising about a relationship with certain values, like love and care and dignity, Christian values, yet you are attracted to a woman who is not in line with Christian values. Basically, you have to let go either one of these.
I don’t think so. I do not see a paradox here.
“love and care and dignity, Christian values”
and
“attracted to a woman who is not in line with Christian values”
I see no issues there. The love, care and dignity we are wielding should be bestowed on all without condition.
I do not require anything from my partner other than sharing a mutual desire to be together.
I want to add,
according to dictionary, sympathetic consciousness of others’ distress together with a desire to alleviate it, compassion is not for yourself, but for others. I cannot use my own interpretations of words when talking to others, because that might skew my mind from knowledge and it would be miscommunication. “compassion for ourselves” might be wrongly used concept and not relevant at all the discussed situation.
Could you list which are these ?
I think we have difference in understanding of concept of dignity.
You can be respectful with a prostitute, but having a relationship with her removes dignity from you. I am talking that kind of dignity of “nobility”, trust, not being cheap, striving higher. Not basic respect of a being. You would lose your dignity, by being with her in a relationship.
According to dictionary, formal reserve or seriousness of manner, appearance, or language, the quality or state of being worthy, honored, or esteemed
Commonly, you would be shamed to have relationship with a slut, a “cheap” woman.
One of the Christian values is the monogamous relationship and sex under love, not only for body pleasure, as far as I understand. By being a sex worker, you basically are having sex or close to it for money, not love.
It seems that having discussion only reinforces my mind more, than changes my mind
You will find tons of examples where the Confederation is asking us to have compassion for ourselves.
This session discusses these concepts.
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2017/0107
Here is a snippet.
I believe Q’uo using such a strong word as “neurotic” points the way to how long that list is.
I think we would have to start a thread just to discuss this large subject. 
Thanks for the definition of compassion.
Well, yes, you really have to understand to the bottom the issue of sex work/promiscuity and Christianity and the effect these will have for you. Still, currently, if I am not mistaken, compassionate or not you will have to choose either one of the mentioned above (or don’t choose at all ). You can’t have both. Your use of compassion leads to my lose of dignity 
Please disregard anything I say that you do not resonate with. I share my views only with the hope that it will inspire. If instead it creates discomfort in you, I would rather you ignore anything I said.
Well looks like main points been covered… I throw a few curve balls in too.
Tilopa who attained enlightment- as they like to say, very well know in buddhist tantra, he served in a brothel as advised by his master- not in the actual services.
Shree Shree Sadguru Sangh Was it this book where it was told of a monk staying at a sex workers place for 1 night- he was celibant it was only for another reason! After he left the woman ended up becoming enlightened with only just a few advice from the monk and well known at the time with many revering her.
Of course tho… have to throw in a quote, an why not one from RA
" Ra: I am Ra. This is an incorrect application of the balancing which we have discussed. The exercise of first experiencing feelings and then consciously discovering their antitheses within the being has as its objective not the smooth flow of feelings both positive and negative while remaining unswayed but rather the objective of becoming unswayed. This is a simpler result and takes much practice, shall we say.
The catalyst of experience works in order for the learn/teachings of this density to occur. However, if there is seen in the being a response, even if it is simply observed, the entity is still using the catalyst for learn/teaching. The end result is that the catalyst is no longer needed. Thus this density is no longer needed. This is not indifference or objectivity but a finely tuned compassion and love which sees all things as love. This seeing elicits no response due to catalytic reactions. Thus the entity is now able to become co-Creator of experiential occurrences. This is the truer balance."
That feeling of love, may be very subtle at first but in time it gets louder, sometimes other catalyst seem louder but in time as the quote above that state or feeling overwhelms anything else. Desire to seek love + Mediation + Balancing exercises