Message From Jesus

I’m just trying to apply our conversation to the current life in third density) With her physical family, physical death and physical work. We have to experience all this. I understand quite well what metaphysical death is, because I have the third degree in the blue lodge of Memphis Mitzraim. The problem is that well-learned metaphysical lessons for me paradoxically correlate with physical lessons. We need to consider them in conjunction, without losing sight of the physical lessons of the third density, otherwise why are we here?

I have no idea what that is.

What I have “pointed to” in this entire thread, using all sorts of angles, is an internal freedom which is not reliant on any outside conditions. In fact, it transforms outside conditions.

Maybe it’s because you’re into Kabbalah and I’m into Zen, that we’re just speaking different languages. I don’t know how Kabbalah approaches this topic, because I haven’t ventured into Kabbalah.

Another ‘angle’ on this topic:

“Even in my own life I mix and match; a pinch of the Gospels, two cups Buddhism, copious amounts of Zen & Daoism, and last but not least, our friends of Ra, not to mention the herbs and spices; Alan Watts, Eckhart Tolle, Jiddu Krishnamurti…and so on and so forth… a truly delightful casserole, one for the books! Keep tasting as you stir, and balance flavours according to you own taste buds…and don’t forget the greatest teacher of all…life.”

Perhaps you are missing a couple of spoons of Kabbalah :slight_smile: for the sharpness of taste. Joke. In fact, this topic is big, and I have to read so much, I admit I haven’t read the whole topic. Our uniqueness is also a paradox. Especially when we communicate with other people.

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Naaah, that perpetually furious guy in the sky is a strong repellent to me! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: Kabbalah cannot escape Judaism, and this is just my personal reflection.

But as long as we’re enjoying the puzzle, all is well. :slightly_smiling_face:

I’ve just gone back into the conversation, thanks for the authors you suggested, Vasilisa.

I will definitely have a peek at those.

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This is called “Detachment”, the opposite of “Attachment”.

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Because life is neither prickles nor goo exclusively. It’s gooey prickles and prickly goo. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Now the paradox of paradoxes is this little gem:

Why is anyone seeking enlightenment is everyone is already enlightened?

This was incidentally the paradox that drove Dōgen Zenji crazy.

So he traveled from Japan to China in search of a Zen master.

He found a Zen master called Tiāntóng Rújìng, and the rest is history. He solved the paradox on the night of his enlightenment.

If you’re interested in how he solved it, you can read his book Shōbōgenzō.6

There’s also a movie about his life:

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Then you may have missed my position on organisations.

Those words are as true today as when they were spoken in 1929.

I can have my own position)

I received the initiation, but at the moment I am on vacation and I do not know if I will return or not

My post wasn’t meant as a…how shall I put it? I didn’t mean it as a way of “one-upmanship”…even though while I was typing it, I was aware that it might come across that way.

I feel that Krishnamurti’s message is so important, that I just needed to share it once more (in the hope that it may be of benefit to someone/anyone).

The fact that there’s any ranking or positioning, is already a step in the wrong direction.

This thread has kind of taken on a life of its own! Goodness, 400+ posts! Jehoshua is still a troublemaker… :slight_smile:

I made a post weeks ago addressing this same issue.

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Jesus: “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword…”

When a teacher is successful, it creates a lot of troubles for the status-quo.

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That’s assuming that those were his words… after the Catholic chuch were done with their tampering to suit their own agenda.

…“onwards Christian soldiers” and all that…militant.

Don’t forget that almost all the Roman soldiers worshipped Mithra, and Mithraism influenced early Christianity heavily.

Rome - epicenter of Mithraism.

Rome - Vatican.

The whole passage, for context:

In my personal opinion…and I have stuck my nose deep into Christianity…these were not his words.

One who has achieved Oneness will not use the word “against”…for are all not one?

Does anyone think that Jesus spoke these words?..because then I’m feeling very despondent right now… :worried:

Maybe it is something like this: if you love any one of those listed, then you might want to remain in their company and not abandon everything in order to follow Jesus.