Hell, negative time/ space and NDE's

[Dieu9]

Interesting topic and feedback of which I appreciate. This topic is one that I enjoy considering and researching through spiritual literature.

@Mirror

Some would say, none of them because they are artifacts of incarnation, just like your body, and they don’t travel out beyond the Earth with you when you go.

There is an aspect of your personality that stays with you, even Ra indicates this as they say it is distilled upon leaving the incarnation.

30.4 Questioner: Is there any loss to the mind or spirit after this transition which we call death or any impairment of either because of the loss of this chemical body that we now have?

Ra: I am Ra. In your terms there is a great loss of mind complex due to the fact that much of the activity of a mental nature of which you are aware during the experience of this space/time continuum is as much of a surface illusion as is the chemical body complex.

In other terms nothing whatever of importance is lost; the character or, shall we say, pure distillation of emotions and biases or distortions and wisdoms, if you will, becoming obvious for the first time, shall we say; these pure emotions and wisdoms and bias/distortions being, for the most part, either ignored or underestimated during physical life experience.

In terms of the spiritual, this channel is then much opened due to the lack of necessity for the forgetting characteristic of third density.

[these are parts of the personality]

@Mirror

Returning to the above material, I wouldn’t worry about escaping from any place because you would be in the care of those who love you most–even if that is not always apparent. Besides, where in the world (haha) would you go?

Well, right; no worries. But one does learn what it needs or desires to learn and yet it does not stay in any particular space/time, time/space.
If I remember correctly, Jesus said He has prepared many mansions, a place for you (us). While also speaking of Himself (Our Logos as a being) and the Christ consciousness in that particular verse.
IMHO, there are many planes…
plane1
/plān/
2. a level of existence, thought, or development.
“everything is connected on the spiritual plane”

Just as we are here. But not the way in which we imagine but rather as a spirit experiencing physicality by way of a vessel called a body. We are here for as long as we need be then move to the next plane of existence whether it be a negative or a positive reality due to our biases or accumulated life choices by living our desired life experiences.

[Mirror]

@Dieu9

This topic is one that I enjoy considering and researching through spiritual literature.

Glad you found something juicy to direct your energies toward. Also remember that the real learning does not occur in your head, but in the silence of your being.

@Dieu9

There is an aspect of your personality that stays with you, even Ra indicates this as they say it is distilled upon leaving the incarnation.

Yes, and I think most humans would be stunned to know how minuscule this is for any one incarnation. What they of Ra call distillation is the affect the incarnation has upon the spirit complex. The mind (even what you learn about spirituality) and our personality quirks are mainly of this brief earthly dream, not of spirit, and only spirit holds up in the longer cycle.

From what I can tell, GENERALLY SPEAKING, the enduring elements have at least one of two characteristics.

The first is gentle, but long term, like water lapping away stone. This would be some kind deep long term devotion to goodness. An example of this is the @flofrog personality type.

The second–not unrelated–is where the personality is balanced out so that the impersonal spirit complex can shine through into an incarnation in real time. The Jesus story would be an example of this where he insisted that “When you hear me, you not me, but the Father speaking through me.” (Not an exact quote.)

If you were a soul stream with, let’s just say, a couple of million years of (whatever) 75,000 lifetimes to learn from, how soon would it be before you complain that there was nothing good on TV to watch today? Most of it is boring on a spiritual level.

Very few of us are actively dedicated to purity of goodness or to balancing out the personality, therefore very little, generally speaking, as I said, is carried forth into spirit when we finish off any one particular brief earthly dream. Rather, it is the long term effect of our dedication to goodness, usually over countless lifetimes, that begins to hold some spiritual gravitas.

[flofrog]

Of course Mirror, since he seems to know me a little, forgets to mention I can be horrifically mean too, lol

I agree with you Dieu 9 , there is something sort of humorous when you describe this,

And for those seeking the darker parts of creation such as destruction, control, hate and non-service will move onto to their idea of heaven which is our idea of hell…a negative 4th density time/space.

Mirror, I find this description so accurate…

@Mirror

You had a particular personality at age one, another at age two, and so forth. The one you have now will be altered in a few years, maybe a little, maybe a lot. Which goes with you after you die? Some would say, none of them because they are artifacts of incarnation, just like your body, and they don’t travel out beyond the Earth with you when you go.

This makes me smile because if I think back at what I was in like my childhood, and then in my twenties and later I often think goodness who was that person. lol

[eastern_user]

Thank you for you sharing,I feel there are some Buddhist philosophies among your self-description though I may don’t have a good answer to it.And I like the movie “Journey to the West” lol

[dd41]

Thank you for your response. Welcome to the conversation. Bless you!

[dd41]

Hmm, I didn’t quote anything. You might have lost track of who to respond to in your reaction. Either way, your response is quite political. Boomers? Immigration? Now I see you. Relax. Be well. Be love.