Spirituality and science is entering a new level of union, I didn’t expect this to start becoming mainstream in my lifetime 
The following article is just one of many reputable news outlets for science that published this around five days ago,
is it just me, or is this huge?
“New theory proposes that consciousness is the universe’s foundation, not atoms”
Thanks for sharing. I’ve been pretty into Bernardo Kastrup’s work on pan psychic idealism lately. There’s lots of good interviews online.
I did some more digging with the help of Ai:
It is not just you—this is indeed a significant moment in the dialogue between physics and philosophy, though it is important to contextualize just how “mainstream” it is.
The article you are seeing is likely referencing a very recent paper by Professor Maria Strømme, a respected Professor of Materials Science at Uppsala University in Sweden. Her paper was published around December 1, 2025, in the journal AIP Advances (American Institute of Physics).
Here is a breakdown of why this is generating excitement and how “huge” it really is:
Strømme’s Inversion: Her model proposes that a universal field of consciousness exists first.
Matter as a Pattern: Physical objects (atoms, planets, neurons) are described as organized patterns or “knots” within this fundamental field of awareness.
Implication: Your individual mind isn’t a “sealed container” generated by your brain; it is a localized concentration of this universal field.
The “Hard Problem” Solution: Science has struggled for decades to explain how dead atoms create subjective experience (the “Hard Problem of Consciousness”). This theory bypasses that problem entirely by suggesting atoms are made of consciousness, not the other way around.
Conclusion: It is “huge” because it legitimizes a conversation that used to be laughed out of physics departments. We are seeing a transition where “spirituality” (consciousness as a foundation) is being translated into the language of “science” (fields, topology, and math).
As far as leaping goes, you should consult @flofrog about this. She is an expert on leaps and lies.
The idea that consciousness is bound up with matter has been “mainstream” in the scientific community since the double slit experiment in 1801, which was then expanded upon in the 1920’s. In 1931, Max Planck, a most eminent physicist, stated his conclusion, based upon the double slit experiment and related things, that consciousness is fundamental and that matter derives from consciousness.
But the question of what to do with this perspective on the construction of the universe remains quite open. What do you do with it?
This is the beginning of a Confederation discussion of the matter. When scientists beginning discussing the value of faith, then we will have advanced a bit further, in my view.
We are most happy to consider the question of faith and how to attain its pleasant pastures of consciousness. First let us gaze at the fundamental dynamic which causes faith to be important. Let us look within; let us gaze at smaller and smaller things. Let us imagine ourselves to be studying, first, the things that can be studied about visible life forms. It is found that there seems to be in each cell of a life form the entire knowledge, history and consciousness of that life form, so that from one cell another being may be created to duplicate that one cell. How can knowledge and identity be so compressed? It is not known, it is only manipulated by your peoples without knowledge. Let us gaze at smaller things, at one of your atoms.
The operative question, as I see it, is how to attune to the fundamental energies of nature, and what to do with them once you have made the connection.
And, if all is reducible to Mystery, what do you do with that?
The sociological implications of this are massive. If science validates that consciousness is fundamental and matter is secondary, our mainstream definition of ‘self’ changes. We are no longer defined by physical attributes like race or gender, but by the shared field of awareness behind them. This scientific shift could be the strongest objective argument against prejudice we’ve ever had.
for taking allot about faith, you from time to time seem to have very little of it in regards to your fellow earthlings 
yes but what we see as matter appears to be in fact also made of cells, cells containing consciousness, right ?
perhaps then we say matter is secondary as matter dies, right ? Yet it cannot be secondary since consciousness is there, so cells are secondary as they die but then consciousness survives ? So as unfortunately Miirror remarks with wisdom, (for once ?) ,
As you see Mirror can be wise.
And by the way Mirror :
leaps and lies ?
MY BAD. Should read, leaps and flies.
Close.
OMG that typo made my day, the comic relief is real 
(it kind of set the tone for the rest of your post)
How do you perceive my faith in Earth creatures? I’m not getting a sense of your meaning.
I failed to notice that.
Do you consider yourself as having a lot of faith in the people here and on this planet?
if that’s the case, You are very scarce with showing that in this forum, at least from my perspective, I just get the impression that you presume that others are of little faith from the way you have been posting here, I understand that I’m just looking through the key hole into your house, so I don’t presume myself of having anywhere near the whole picture.
I agree with all essentially being mystery, but I consider explaining away the mystery more of a reduction, regardless how much we expand that explanation
Does this sound appropriate to you? Hmm. ha ha
If I could ask you to stand back from the keyhole for just a moment–ahem–I would note that we are all drawn here on different levels, for different reasons. I see most people as coming for a bit of recreational discussion which accepts spiritual references and, yes, I respect that . We are all present wherever we are on the level we choose to employ. So it is.
I come here for something much more intense than recreational discussion, and that seems to be off-putting for some other forum users, even @flofrog, it turns out. This may sound weird…but I feel a kind of honor/duty as a singular sort of mirror to reflect back to others here things I feel they may be otherwise excluding from their field of conscious perception. If they choose to look into this mirror, such things as that are often what are reflected back.
Does this indicate a lack of faith in fellow forum users? Now that you bring this up, I can see how it could be taken that way. But, coming from my background, it is not intended so.
In my youth, I had some involvement in the performing arts. In the corner of that world I was training in, a person craved to know the perspective of elders who could see more deeply into your work than you could yourself. There was a dedication to the craft that superseded ego. Criticism was not taken as insulting, but as food for growth. I think many people would agree with this concept, but such a deep dedication to craft is not the stuff of recreational discussion, is it? Thus, we have the mismatch of vibrational intensities you are peering into.
And yet, I am only human. I can be snippy or indignant, so my personal emotional biases can certainly filter into my comments here. But the main reason I spend time here, Raz, is to build my craft as an instrument of consciousness. To this endeavor I am fiercely dedicated. I have faith that others will do what they need to do to get to where they are trying to go.
By the way, on a more personal note, I do appreciate your delicate approach to this.
ADDENDUM
I just read through the above and touched it up for clarity, and now it occurs to me that maybe what inspires you here is the dynamic of offering/withholding love. Perhaps what you are referring to as having faith in people is really a question of, “So,like, Dude, where is the love in the moment when you are offering your stark reflections?” If that would be the case, you’ll need to open that up as an additional matter.
My phrase was a hasty reference to the session I quoted where that line of thinking led to something like Ra’s line, paraphrasing, All begins and ends in Mystery. I wasn’t trying to reduce everything to it, exactly, just noting that Mystery is the basis of all the appears, all that disappears, and anything else conceivable or inconceivable.
Tell me about your faith in these things, if you would. I am curious to read another Earthling’s perspective.
I honestly should have thought of that !!! Thanks Mirror for thinking of my survival 
Nice dodge!
this explains so much, and I say that with no hint of sarcasm or malice, I assure you. You feel no duty to relate to us as a human, only to effect a reflection. This totally explains why I kept feeling rope-a-doped by you—honest dialogue with something meaningful at stake to mutually discover was never your agenda at all! It was a ram dass style lesson you were attempting to teach me.
Had I known this I would have left you in peace. Sorry.
Mirrors don’t notice: they reflect.
can’t have it both ways if you want to play in the illusion here