I have a quick question if anybody knows the answer. When an entity evolves in the 4th density, does it choose which social memory complex it will join? I understand that it would have to be in the 4th density and not a higher density, but will it choose which one? Those of us who will go to the 4th density from Earth, which was 2nd density Earth and then 3rd density Earth, will we go to the 4th density Earth, or can we choose to go into another memory complex?
From my perspective I see that we will all be part of the new earth social memory complex.
Apparently 1st density is that of the basic elements and atoms (earth, wind, fire, water etc) and then 2nd density is where cells and basic lifeforms such as plants etc become aware. 3rd density is that of more complex lifeforms such as animals and ourselves where awareness is allowed to expand even further through multiple interactions with âother selvesâ, which is only made possible when the awareness of your individual cells come together to create a higher awareness (which is you). So following the principle âas above, so belowâ, I assume we are the living cells of our host planet/social complex etc, and only when we are ready to combine our awarenesses and âpoint the needle in the same directionâ, as Ra so eloquently put it, will we be able to raise our collective consciousness to the level where we can become a social memory complex. Ra did also state that some souls choose to remain individual when moving to the 4th density, which I always found interesting but to answer your question I believe most souls that are ready will create the social memory complex together and itâs all to do with our planet and us realising we are 1 living, conscious organism and have so much more power when we work together.
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Thank you for the confirmation. That is what I thought, that we would form our own social memory complex.
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Do you have a reference for this? I think itâs possible youâre mistaking âdidnât make harvestâ with âchose to be individualâ. See this passage for instance. Or perhaps youâre talking about the two negatively harvestable entities.
My apologies I was confused between 4th and 5th density from this quote -
43.14 Questioner: Then the big difference in harvestability between third and fourth density is that at the end of the third density the individual is harvested as a function of individual violet ray, but in fourth density, is it the equivalent of violet-ray then for the entire social memory complex that must be of a harvestable nature to go to fifth density?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct although in fifth density entities may choose to learn as a social memory complex or as mind/body/spirit complexes and may graduate to sixth density under these conditions, for the wisdom density is an extremely free density whereas the lessons of compassion leading to wisdom necessarily have to do with other-selves.
I have just re-read a bunch of stuff on the harvest though and picked up a few new things so thanks for fact checking me 
Thanks. A quick question that you might know. To go to forth density positive polarity, we need to be 51% service to others, but for negative polarity, they need to be 95% service to self. To evolve to the 5th density, Ra did not give a percentage, but to have love with understanding and for the 6th density, love with wisdom. Am I correct with this?
I remember Ra quotes that never existed all the time. Totally understand. Once you actually are able to synthesize all this data Ra throws at you, you make a mental âmapâ that breaks down when you try to show it to others.
I believe they said the criterion for graduation to fifth density is a certain kind of understanding not mappable to percentages of polarity, but that the STO fifth density graduate will just happen to have achieved 95% STO (whatever that actually means).
I am not aware of Ra sharing any qualifications for sixth density graduation, but they must be far beyond our understanding (as in truth are all the densityâs qualifications â donât think for a minute that these percentages map to anything we can truly get).
At the moment, I believe that the idea of harvesting has its ârootsâ in Oaspe spiritualism. Ra is a very large fusion of teachings on spiritual evolution. Thanks to this teaching, you can learn about spiritual alchemy, theurgy, and, as I said, spiritualism. Fourth density is the Christian spiritualistic atmosphere where souls enter after death. In the understanding of Christian spiritualists, and in order to advance in their development, it is extremely necessary to understand the commandments of the Creator (Yehovih). The same idea is considered in the teachings of Moses.
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Great point Vasilisa. Itâs important to not get hung up on terminology or concepts so metaphysical that they necessarily exceed our ability to describe them with language. Meanwhile, itâs important to see broad enough strokes of these concepts that we can recognize their instantiation under other names and in other contexts within other schools of thought.
Remember: the information given in the Ra Contact â or any channeled material â is not the truth. It is one piece of evidence to be weighed and situated in the proper place in our lives. It points at something that may have truth value, but ultimately you have to let your life be the proof, and we have testimony from several sources that transient matters are unlikely to bear themselves out in your life this way.
Thatâs the wonderful thing about the concept of transient information Ra gave us: there is no epistemic basis for it, whereas the non-transient stuff is imminently verifiable in the material of your own life. When we geek out on the exotic details too much, we do ourselves a disservice â not because weâre believing the âwrongâ thing so much as we have to put so much energy into believing it relative to its utility in our seeking. As those of Ra remind us:
We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences. It is the importance placed upon it.
Jeremy, what is faith? I have been trying to justify my faith and devotion to Ra for a long time, but I do not find a sufficient evidence base for this justification. Within the limits of ignorance and creation, we still have something to lose, there is nothing to lose only to the omniscient and creative. Iâve always said that Creation itself is suffering
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If I recall correctly, youâre a non-native English speaker, forgive me if Iâm mistaken. Given that assumption, there are two connotations of faith that need to be teased apart:
- faith in something: a kind of belief in the infallibility or incontestable primacy of person, institution, group, idea, etc.
- faith as an abstract attitude: a sense of the goodness of creation â not because it features this goodness so much as in spite of the darkness that seems to predominate in life. Itâs like a belief in the infallibility of experience itself.
When you are reading messages from Confederation entities, I suggest tending towards connotation #2. Faith in something is just a kind of commitment like an ideology or celebration of the thing. But faith as an attitude needs no object; it is an orientation of openness towards experience that militates against a rigid, discrete commitment. The vast majority of Confederation uses of the word âfaithâ strike me as centering on #2, not #1.
The exception would be Carlaâs attitude towards Jesus which was a kind of adoration in the specific character of that historical and spiritual figure. Even there, though, Confederation contacts are pretty good about broadening that faith as they proceed in the monologue. And I think itâs plausible that faith in Jesus, being so disconnected from personalities and doctrines that are approachable in this day and age, functions in practice as #2, even though it seems like #1.
Frankly, I think faith is one of the most telltale signs of service-to-others because this attitude appears to me to have an energetic, emotional, and conceptual trajectory that expands identity towards the other. I imagine faith in any sense would be antithetical to a service-to-self individual precisely because this openness and sublimation of individual identity would pose a thread to control and domination. After all, if I conquer the world but lose my own self definition, am I really in control?
I take a simpler view. Faith is not what you believe (and can, therefore, justify). Faith is what you know beyond doubt to be true, not using your rational faculty, but by using your inner knowing.
A further point is that the rational faculty is a product of the brain which is a portion of the mammalian nervous system. In other words, it is a product and a denizen of the illusion. It only thinks about the illusion. About mystery it has no useful opinion.
That knowing from which faith arises is derivative of the spirit complex, in other words, our portion of spirit which is born alongside our physical body when we arrive here.
If you hold you faith in your meditation and follow it inwardly, where will you arrive? Perhaps you will arrive in your own heart? Perhaps you will meet your spirit complex?
Yes, Jeremy, you remember correctly that I am not a native English speaker. Therefore, it is difficult for me to think and write in this language. I do amateur religious studies to prove to myself that a person has, shall we say, a religious instinct. What are the natural forces behind this instinct and where does it lead a person? At the same time, through a comparison of various literary sources, I am interested in the manifestations of spiritual light and the body of glory. That is, for me, faith should turn into some kind of knowledge.
Unfortunately, this world shows me that not all people have a soul in harmony with its higher, spiritual part. I myself cannot keep in touch with this spiritual part on a regular basis while staying in the third density world every day. Itâs not easy for me to catch the wave of the spirit and move with it in time, staying in modern society
I understand the difficulty.
Most often, itâs not peopleâs souls that are disharmonious, but their thoughts and personality-driven emotions. And these disturbances make seeking in silence more challenging because they crowd the silence with their lamentations and ranting.
On the other hand, the gentleness of our heart continues to wait for us to ask for its love. I hope the time comes soon, my friend, when you and your heart can share the peaceful embrace of deep knowing.
It may come to you from an unexpected direction.
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For what itâs worth, faith in the sense I was describing would nearly be the antithesis of knowledge. Perhaps faith isnât the right word, or perhaps we just have a difference of approach or opinion here.
I have a more straightforward definition of faith.
Faith is trusting the path that our higher self leads us to.
If we walk in the light, we understand that we are all one, and every action one takes affects our neighbor. If we connect with our higher self (guardian angel) and follow the suggestions given to us by the love light, then everything will work out for the best of everyone.
We should have âfaithâ that we will receive what is best for us and our neighbors.
We incarnated into this Universe to learn a lesson. With faith, the outcome of our lesson learned will be done with love instead of pain.
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I was trying to reply to your post. Apparently not very successful. For me, the text of Ra is an impetus to get acquainted with the vast world of esoteric thought. And I consider this text to be my teacher. And if youâre studying, then you want to believe that your training are reasonable. And yes, I would like this training to be applicable to life.