Why infinity became aware? Let's discuss the heart of creation

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I’ve been speculating about this for a long time, but haven’t done a post on the subject. I should have. It’s interesting, because that’s where it all started, sort of.

13.6

Questioner: From this infinity then must have come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?

Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.

So, Ra says infinity became aware. Why?

This question has been on my mind for a long time. I guess maybe I’m trying to think too logically and consistently. I don’t even fully understand how to translate this phrase ‘became aware’ because english is not my native language. So.

There are many ways to translate it, and I understand it as ‘I understand that I am in such and such a place’.

Well, roughly speaking, you’re lying on a bed and then you decide to jump out of it and now you’re not in the horizontal plane, but in the vertical plane. Why? Why did you decide to get out of bed?

I chatted with chatgpt for a while, and it gave me an interesting answer.

In the case of “infinity became aware”, the phrase suggests that infinity, as a concept, has gained a level of consciousness or awareness that goes beyond mere existence. It’s as if infinity has developed a sense of its own existence, its own boundaries, and its own implications.

It’s not that infinity is thinking, “Oh, I’m so big and infinite!” or “I’m so complex and fascinating!” It’s more like infinity has developed a sense of its own ontological status , its own existence as a fundamental aspect of mathematics.

In this sense, infinity “becoming aware” is more like a philosophical or metaphysical concept, rather than a psychological or cognitive one. It’s a way of describing the concept of infinity as having a deeper level of understanding or appreciation for its own nature, rather than a self-aware, thinking entity.

Nevertheless, after this ‘realization’, a process began, described by Ra as ‘Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy’.

13.7

Questioner: After this, what happened?

Ra: Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.

I’m trying to understand, this moment in 13.7, is it done deliberately? That is, having understanding, for what it is necessary to do 13.7, or it was spontaneous, that is, spontaneous appearance of infinite energy.

You see, the difference is huge. If the process of 13.7 was done on purpose, then there was a clear understanding of what for. And it means that before 13.7 there was something that can be called God. The most interesting thing to understand is why things evolved the way they did.

How did infinity learn to focus itself?

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I don’t know if it’s accurate to cite an already finished creation as an example, describing what came before any creation, but.

The first density is similar, isn’t it? A stone exists without the realisation and understanding that it is a stone. It just is. And first density is considered the longest lasting. For some reason, the second density comes gradually. Why?

How does a rock know it’s a rock? Is someone gonna tell it? But if it has no ears, how will it hear?

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Dima, how do you feel in a lucid dream? And how does space behave in a lucid dream?

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I’ve never had conscious / lucid dreams.

How can I know about the behaviour of something that is outside my direct experience?

And how it relates to my question? hmm

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It is difficult for me to answer in English, I will answer you in a personal message

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Iv thought about this topic so much and it helped to visualise within mind space …the images seems to inform me.
My conclusion on this is that the sea or soup of unity gave birth to the light because there was a need for whatever reason …after that i think the self organising nature of unity went onto further separate or distort into perfect individuated aspects of expression.
To me anyway it feels like that unity is awareness aswell …the seperation came from unity …so that awareness knew it would have to start from the begining …there was clearly a need for this since we are all here.
Dearest Dima,
I would urge you to look at willian bullman work,if you want to experience first hand the beughty of the self within tbe creation ,take the challenge,he gives many different types of instructions to attain out of body and how to control yourself within this state.
Wishing you every joy life has to offer
Jay

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Hi. I think you’re right in the sense that the answer isn’t easy to find, and you have to experience it for yourself. I think I really miss that experience.

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Dima,
Iv had a thought,if you require first hand experience i would go as far as to say you have experience of the all from the begining,since we are immortal souls and have been here from the jump along for the ride as fundamental pieces of creation.
Maybee you need to look at setting intention for a specific requirement before you go to sleep …ask yourself as only your higher aspect would know the answer to what you desire to know.
The dream state is a tool within the law, your higher aspect may choose to help or not depending on your pre life free will choices.
When you start searching …searching meets you half way.
I hope this helps
Gratitude
Jay

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In various ways, I have tried to approach this subject. Now I explain it to myself more or less in such a way that the absolute foundation of everything is something we could describe as emptiness, a vacuum, or nothingness filled only with Consciousness.

This Consciousness flows from Oneness, which flows from Infinity (in which I see everything that can be, the knowable and the unknowable, the definite and the indefinite). Infinity converges to one; it unifies itself. That is, this Infinity ‘creates’ Oneness naturally. Oneness came into ‘existence’, as a result of the natural ‘action’ of Infinity. So Infinity ‘creates’ Oneness, and this unification ‘creates’ the spark of Consciousness.

I think that in a situation where there is no limitation, there is also no special need for one thing to happen after another or for something to have to be done or that something to happen because of effort. There is no effort here, as there is also nothing that constitutes resistance, so the natural course of things was simply for this Consciousness to turn to itself and thus “Infinity become aware”: which, more precisely, is Consciousness in my example.

Then this Consciousness, when it turned to itself, noticed two basic things. The first thing it admitted about itself was that it was Oneness, which is not strange because it was this Oneness that ‘created’ Consciousness. And the second is that this Oneness, if you look at it, is Infinity, which is not strange either because Infinity ‘created’ Oneness.

When Consciousness decided that it wanted to be (at the same time always being in some sense), then it has distorted itself (First Distortion: Free Will). And it was utilized for choice of knowing Itself. After that, It defined Itself in a new way - as Creator as it was needed first create the creation to know the self. Basing on these two basic attributes of itself: Infinity and Oneness. Thus, we have the One Infinite Creator.

What is worth saying is that all these processes did not require anything special, but rather simply, as if someone said: “This is how it was, is and will be, and it cannot be otherwise.” These are such natural processes that are above everything, above any explanation or searching for something in them. This cannot be better figured out. This can only be experienced. Once we all experienced it equally. We carry the truth about what happened. Maybe if we go to this 8th density, these memories will be natural. Everything will be clear. Although it is difficult to relate to it in a way that is familiar to us, because it goes beyond our current being.

Well, something like that. I know it can be confusing. It is impossible to talk about it easily. But this is how I understand it.

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There is somewhere, in one Ra’s session, where Ra equates Infinity with Love. So I wonder, for Dina’s question, if Love didn’t wish to manifest itself and thus Consciousness happened.

I just wonder.

Great OP Dima…. :blush:

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I believe we are exploring the same concept, though from slightly different perspectives. The subject is quite abstract, which makes it challenging to articulate with absolute clarity and precision. Everyone brings their own distortions to it, while simultaneously adding their unique insights to help paint a fuller picture.

When you speak of ‘Love,’ especially with a capital ‘L,’ I believe this aligns with what I refer to as ‘Consciousness.’ I also understand it as the essence of being, rather than consciousness in the conventional sense—like the awareness we experience now, although this awareness undeniably springs from that deeper Consciousness.

If you see Love as the essence of being, flowing from Infinity and Oneness, then we are speaking of the same thing when I refer to Consciousness.

This ‘Consciousness’ and ‘Love’ I refer to are, in their original state, something dormant—something inactive. They are Infinity/Oneness, in full force and strengthened state, but nothing else than that. However, when Consciousness is activated, it is as though Love is released, and from both perspectives, we converge on what could be called Original Thought.

This Original Thought is the activation of Consciousness and simultaneously the expression of Love. It is both a manifestation and a distortion of the source from which it arises. To clarify, the Consciousness I speak of is not yet the conscious mind (but at a later stage it will) as we typically understand it; rather, it is the profound depth of infinite being, which exists outside of time and space.

Similarly, when Love manifests, it takes the form of an emotion—unconditional love. This Original Thought is not exactly a thought we create within our minds, but something deeper—underlying intelligence of our being, expressed as an emotion, as unconditional love.

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Yes, I totally agree ! We were in fact talking of the same thing.

It is as you say, extremely difficult to speak of abstract that we find ourself, well myself really lol, so gauche with our limited 3 rd density language,.

But I do see how Consciousness and Love come to equate themselves in the pure first creation act.

There was a really interesting passage on Ra where there was this ‘melting’. I shall have to find it.

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Dima, I feel that you questioning the AI about becoming aware is a bit ironic.

Just want to comment on that,

Coming back to your OP, I feel like the answer lies closest to the “homecoming” to the infinite creator.

It’s not that we are moving away, but we are moving inward.

When we are “aware,” what are we aware of?

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Hi! Nice explanation! I realized the reason why it was difficult for me to understand. It’s all about time. It just wasn’t there. And where there is no time, “actions can last indefinitely”, although in fact everything should happen at the same time, simultaneously. In short, this infinity had at its disposal ‘enough time’, if I may put it this way, to awaken the desire to turn to itself ‘sooner or later’. And further, when she turned to herself, she sort of ‘saw’ that she is in fact, a unity. So it’s as if she doesn’t even realise her boundaries. Even myself personally, when I think about unity, I have a blurred understanding of boundaries, boundaries just don’t apply to unity.

And you put it very well that this infinity is above any search for meaning in it. I mean that since there is a kind of infinite time, one can find some “desire” in such a long interval. It’s like giving me infinite time right now, what will I desire? I think it’s naive to assume that the answer will be ‘nothing’, because sooner or later I might get bored. As strange as that sounds. Therefore, having realized unity, there was a desire to explore, and in order to create a “laboratory of research”, i.e. creation, a creator is needed. And so on, many many following nuances. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I also had an interesting thought.

If infinity had, let’s say, infinite time to think, and among all the different options chose to create Сreation, it turns out that it was the most interesting, or perhaps the only worthwhile occupation. That is why it is said that “our world is eternal”, as if implying the idea that Creation will continue to be created and maintained. But I think that if it is need, creation could easily reassemble itself back into infinity and this whole research will be cancelled. But it is probably due to the fact of timelessness, due to the infinite amount of thinking or contemplation, that infinity has made a decision to engage in something that in its ‘view or understanding’ is the only thing worth the effort.

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To all of that. Worth mentioning is that the concept of Balance is important. One, can be presented to oneself as a perfect balance of everything. The balance of Life and non-life, existence and non-existence, being and non-being, consciousness and unconsciousness, reality and illusion, everything and nothing.

The One melds all of this together into the One, and when we discover the One it manifests and distorts in a way based on balance. It appears that this One is the highest way of interpreting things. For everything that is as manifestation/distortion and that we see, we can find something that balances it. And ultimately melts into One.

How was Infinite to become aware? It can be said that as it was not aware. In One, awareness and unawareness is something melted. Is there a foundation for our reality? There is and there isn’t, in One is the same thing. The One is mixed everything and nothingness at the same time. It is the One that is known and unknowable, that is and is not, that manifests and does not manifest.

It is like a medium that gives balance, which when looked at is Zero and Infinity All at the same time, and around this after a circle is projected its distorted form, where opposites are extracted. To return ultimately to the One back.

The difference is that through these distortions and the experiences that these distortions make possible, more is known with each return to the One, a little more is known about the One through experimentation with these distortions. This knowledge is not directly about the One, but indirectly yes because everything comes from the One. And so it is possible to undertake the next Cycle/Octave through distortion to know the One better again. This is remembered and understanding integrated. Though directly, the One will forever be a mystery. One forever balancing everything and nothing, being and not being, conscious and unconscious.

This is such another block, in this investigation: The One as Balance.

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This is so lovely K.K.

The One as Balance, exactly

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I’m not sure it’s deliberate in the sense that it was choice the Creator made in favor of this and against something else, because this would be prior to any separation and a choice wouldn’t really be thinkable.

I think of it this way, just as a crutch that I know probably has tons of holes in it: in the infinite unified plenum of all, beyond time and space, all of the octaves have “already happened” and all of the Creator’s exploration of itself is really one gigantic, all-encompassing, infinite thought it is entertaining as the object of its awareness, awareness needing a referent and thereby building in the subject/object dichotomy that we recognize as separation. So it’s useful to think of me and everything else as portions of the Creator’s thinking of this gigantic thought, and what we experience “stretched out” by time and space is really just the “processing” the Creator is doing at a lower level of focus than it occupies.

The Creator experiences all Creation ever as a single moment that never hadn’t occurred already. From our point of view, Creation seems to entail the bringing into focus of certain qualities of the Creator to study in isolation. So the background of all of this inquiry we’re doing is one that has to account for the illusory nature of time specifically, since although there is sequence in the primal distortions, these are not event distanced from one another by any kind of temporality.

One more thing: if awareness is a part of unity (and it must be, obviously, since we’re experiencing it right now) then its potential to express has been latent in the Creation being explored through these infinite octaves. With an infinite amount of time to express itself infinitely, the Creation not only can but, to my mind, must express any potential it holds – which is itself an infinite variety. So it seems to me that awareness was just an aspect of the Creator that, being in potential, had to be expressed at some “point” in the infinite number of “points,” plenty to accommodate any possibility that can be dreamt and probably many “to come” that presently cannot be dreamt.

Well anybody who says they know is pretty full of themselves, but I think it has to do with the ability of each successive Creation and its Logoi to lean further and further into the structuring qualities of mind. The mind complex entertains intellectual thoughts that make distinctions and create particularity. Concepts, after all, are only useful if they mean something different from what any other discrete thing means. Ideas have to have boundaries to be able to be intelligently employed in the weird calculus/heuristic we call “thought” (which of course is a pale sliver of the true breadth of the mind). I would hazard a guess that this ability to fashion discrete concepts was at least one of the most primordial “foci.”

Contrast the structuring, limiting, this-and-not-that quality of thought with more expansive ideals like justice, freedom, love, etc. These are qualities, I believe, that are only thinkable once you possess abstract thought which just happens to tag along with the emergence of the spirit complex in third density. And so I think they are parts of “mind” that tend more towards the spirit complex. Meanwhile, in the physical illusion that the body complex occupies, you have matter – think of matter as highly condensed thought, the opposite of those spirit ideals that are vague but lofty. Instead we are speaking of “thoughts” so particular and constrained and limited that they have this quality of substance and displace one another viscerally. Matter has an intelligence to it that bespeaks mind, but it is a much more distorted/collapsed version of it, and so that intelligence expresses itself distortedly, for example as physical laws of nature.

The archetypes Ra teaches about are an example of this underlying structure that is created to particularize experience, house identity, etc. I think maybe like everything, to put it awkwardly, the Creator merely stumbled into an aspect of itself it could not see until there was something to see. But of course its stumbling was a necessity, bound to happen in the infinity of possibilities expressing themselves.

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In short, you are saying that the creator simply “happened” and it wasn’t a choice between this or that.

I feel that it is worthy to mention that there is no separation between the creator and the creation.

Often times, in our language model, we use the word “creator” as a separate entity that “creates” something.

Like an artisan crafting his/her creation.

But from my viewpoint, it is more of the creation within the creator.

a dream, a thought, an illusion.

It also helps to revisit some of the teachings from our old pal.

13.5 Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the earliest, first known thing in the creation?

Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.

13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must have come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?

Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.

13.7 Questioner: After this, what happened?

Ra: Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.

13.8 Questioner: Can you state the next step?

Ra: The next step is still at this space/time nexus in your illusion achieving its progression as you may see it in your illusion. The next step is an infinite reaction to the creative principle following the Law of One in one of its primal distortions, freedom of will. Thus many, many dimensions, infinite in number, are possible. The energy moves from the intelligent infinity due first to the outpouring of randomized creative force, this then creating patterns which in holographic style appear as the entire creation no matter which direction or energy is explored. These patterns of energy begin then to regularize their own local, shall we say, rhythms and fields of energy, thus creating dimensions and universes.

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That’s a way of thinking about – remember, we are using mostly crude metaphors here. These things in their entire truth are likely far beyond our language and intellects.

Another way is to say that the creation is an illusion – it is a thought experiment being entertained by the Creator that imagines “what if there was more than one thing?” So when looking at the Creator/creation, we recall that it is all one thing, but also paradoxically that it’s also many things, depending on how we look at it.

Like I said on a recent podcast episode, you can’t really say anything is anything with finality. It’s all relative from the focus, the distortion, the vantage point taken. This is what you would expect, in fact, if the true nature of things were oneness – namely, that all of the distinctions come from perception, not from something inherent in the creation.

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