Regarding Aging

Spiritual & Metaphysical Matters
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If have any thoughts, please share in this topic regarding this topic

  1. Causes

1.1. Disbalance / Imbalance

Q: If an entity were perfectly balanced on this planet with respect to the Law of One, would he undergo the aging process?
A: A perfectly balanced entity would become tired rather than visibly aged. The lessons being learned, the entity would depart.

Commentary: I feel confused. The proper answer would be yes or no and possibly giving the reason. Would become tired is not necessary regarding the question. It feels like there is differentiation between visibly and not visibly aged. Balance regarding what - the Law of One or some other thing? Feels like tiredness of life, having no lesions is equated with aging.

Q: Why does rapid aging occur on this planet?
A: Rapid aging occurs upon this third-density planet due to an ongoing imbalance of receptor web complex in the etheric portion of the energy field of this planet. The thought-form distortions of your peoples have caused the energy streamings to enter the planetary magnetic atmosphere—if you would so term this web of energy patterns—in such a way that the proper streamings are not correctly imbued with balanced vibratory light/love from the, shall we say, cosmic level of this octave of existence.

Commentary: I am not familiar with these concepts: receptor web complex, etheric portion of the energy field, thought-form distortions, energy streamings, planetary magnetic atmosphere, web of energy patterns, balanced vibratory light/love, cosmic level of this octave of existence.

1.2. Electromagnetic fields

Q: Why would this reverse aging?
A: Aging is a function of the effects of various electromagnetic fields upon the electromagnetic fields of the mind/body/spirit complex. In this position there is no input or disturbance of the fields, nor is any activity within the electromagnetic field complex of the mind/body/spirit complex allowed full sway. The vacuum sucks any such disturbance away. Thus the entity feels nothing and is suspended.

Commentary: Commentary: I am not familiar with these concepts: electromagnetic fields, mind/body/spirit complex (the spirit part). Still the question is not answered, why when “entity feels nothing and is suspended” reverses the aging ?

1.3. Processing of catalyst

The process of which you call aging, within your third-density illusion, is a product of the persistent processing of catalyst in order to move along the line of light, the spiritual spiraling light that moves in accordance with unity to the One Creator. The processing of catalyst over a period of what you call time begins to take its toll upon the mind/body/spirit complex. This toll is that of wearing, shall we say, of a certain friction that is created when catalyst is not completely processed. This causes a kind of aging that is represented in your physical vehicle, as you are aware, through its loss of some flexibility, some strength, some ability to recuperate from difficulties, be they physical illness, emotional or mental—the mind itself also suffering in some fashion from the catalyst which has not been well processed, and which has taken its toll also upon the mind, so that there are some difficulties, as you are aware in the memory.

1.4. Difficulty of utilizing catalyst

Indeed, within your own illusion your aging has been speeded up so greatly, because of the difficulty of utilizing catalyst <…> However, as each density offers catalyst of some kind to each entity within it, the processing of catalyst does take its toll, shall we say. There is a wearing or an eroding of the physical, mental and spiritual vehicles, for there is a kind of friction that occurs in the processing of catalyst. Be it ever so slow, it is inexorable and there is the need to move into other incarnations

  1. Contradictions

2.1. Not aging

A perfectly balanced entity would become tired rather than visibly aged. The lessons being learned, the entity would depart.

However, as each density offers catalyst of some kind to each entity within it, the processing of catalyst does take its toll, shall we say. There is a wearing or an eroding of the physical, mental and spiritual vehicles, for there is a kind of friction that occurs in the processing of catalyst. Be it ever so slow, it is inexorable and there is the need to move into other incarnations

Commentary: Ra says that there can be no aging, even if not all catalyst is processed. Quo says that inexorably you will age, because of proccesing of catalyst.

2.2. Giving information to slow aging

Q: Would there be any value to the people of this planet now, at this time, to complete this machine?
A: The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions towards longevity <…>

Q: Who gave George the information on how to build it?
A: There were two contacts which gave the entity with vibratory sound complex, George, this information. One was of the Confederation.

Commentary: It is said that “There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions towards longevity”, but around similar time, say several decades earlier, such information was attempted to give ?

  1. How not to age

Q: Then it would be very beneficial for the people of this planet, in practicing the Law of One, to learn ways of service. Am I correct?
A: You are correct. If you will observe those oriented through a lifetime-experiential-distortion complex from near the beginning of that experience, you will observe a relatively youthful, as you would call it, appearance.

Commentary: The way I understand the answer: if you observe those people who have direction in their life early on, you will see more youthful looks on them. Still, this would translate I guess from 10 to 30 years of age of longevity.

Personal question, having a little bit experience with Traditional Chinese Medicine myself, I am not fully sure I can separate concepts of aging from ill health, because it seems that most of the old people kind of have signs of ill health on their faces. Is there really a person with full possible health ?

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  1. Purpose

Q: Then I was wondering the root reason for the change in appearance that we see as the aging process?
A: When the discipline of the personality has led the mind/body/spirit complex into the fifth, and especially the sixth, level of study, it is no longer necessary to build destruction of the physical vehicle into its design <…> Within third density, not to build into the physical vehicle its ending would be counterproductive to the mind/body/spirit complexes therein residing <…>
Q: I see, then, that it is, shall we say, when an individual reaches a very old age, then it becomes apparent to him in third density that he’s worn out. <…>

Commentary: the questions seems not to be answered directly, because it was asked why the appearance changes. You can say that this is enforcement of people to want to die, but generally people want to look more youthfull and live longer. Just at the very end people want to die when they are unable to fullfill their basic necessities and say “when will God take me” or similar.

there would not be the opportunity for planning of greater and more expansive lessons to be learned within the third-density illusion

Commentary: I don’t have time to search for citation, but if I remember correctly, Quo says that you learn one lession in a duration of several incarnations, thus this statement is a contradiction. There is no need to die, because when you will reincarnate you will try to learn the same lession, thus there is no need to plan lessions at all.

You experience the illusion of the aging process once more because of that great sleight of hand. <…> It is necessary in this density to experience the process that you know as aging. It is not necessary if you do not need it. If you need it, it is because you have desired it. No other reason, my friends. It is simply because you have desired it.

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You know Edgar Cayce used to say and repeat for ever, " Mind is the builder" which I think in Edgar Cayce’s view was not so just the mental mind but also the spirit-mind, so it would link to here with embracing catalysts whatever they are, but with a peaceful ( If possible,lol ) and love oriented mind…
Which brings us to the bias of philosophy and meditation as supporters of the experience…

Peace comes definitely better to a love oriented mind so whether aging or not, it perhaps tends to support health as you mentioned before, Kenturi…

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Technically speaking, I think everyone embraces their catalysts, because in life circumstances you will have to take one or another action and hold one or another thought regarding certain circumstance. The problem is that people embrace and repeat such action patterns, which causes suffering and possibly aging.

You probably mean peace as relaxation ?

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In that scene where he sits with eyeglasses and a jumper, I get a thought that he is like 25 years old :sweat_smile:

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I was more thinking when we go inside and decide to deeply make peace with a situation and find then deeper peace inside, then, so not in that case, relaxation.

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I thoroughly enjoyed Eckhart Tolle’s book: The Power of Now.

In it, he talks about the ageing process (and other topics of which there are parallels to the LoO).

Q’uo states that aging in our 3D space/time experience is “greatly speeded up” because of the “difficulty of utilizing catalyst.” They say that most humans “live but what would be considered the lifetime of a child” compared to more realized entities.

Q’uo: “The processing of catalyst does take its toll… there is a wearing or eroding of the physical, mental and spiritual vehicles…”

This fits with Tolle’s idea that living unconsciously (lost in time, ego, and suffering) creates internal resistance — which may manifest as stress and accelerated aging.

By contrast, one who lives like Tolle — with minimal resistance, presence, and acceptance — may age more slowly, energetically or even physically. Similar to what flofrog suggests about peace. An inner serenity and awareness that all is well, no matter the exterior conditions.

From personal experience, I think this is broadly true. You meet some people and they have a lightness and a freshness to them that belies their age.

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I t is so true Wolfie…

I had an aunt, well had in fact married my dad’s brother. She went through WW2 in occupied France with food rationing, small two small children to feed, a husband on captivity. She would go on a bicycle with my mum for like 15 miles to try to find food since my mum had also two young children. It was safer for two women to go together as Nazis had barricades on roads checking papers of everyone. And this aunt stayed the whole war, my mum told me, singing ( She was a musician and violinist ) and still light and optimistic. My mum said she felt often transformed to just spend a few hours with her. She passed away when she was 87, she was still walking so fast like an elf , and had a few wrinkles but even those looked happy ones. She was a joy.

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I don’t know, but I would bet on this (if I would bet at all :grinning:) - you shouldn’t trust anything what is commonsense in society, like “stress relates to aging”, because those are the same people who age. So, either they accept the stress and aging or they are wrong.

Actually, I have a book The Immortal: True Accounts of the 250-Year-Old Man, Li Qingyun: Sen, Yang, Olson, Stuart Alve: 9781889633343: Amazon.com: Books, sadly don’t have time now to summarize properly in this thread.

He is considered a Worldly-Immortal, there are several levels above that in Taoist hierarchy, if I remember correctly, the so called Heavenly-Immortal.

Maybe it is a hoax, but reportedly, this person lived 250 years and his teacher was 700 years or so. Technically speaking, the reasons - various eastern meditation and movement of health methods, using medicinal plants on daily basis, roaming the nature gathering for medicinal plants, calm mind.

Based on my personal experience, lets say the so called “six healing sounds”. I tried to do them purposefully and did not notice anything substantial and threw away. Still nowadays, I do them as a reaction to changing my mind. Thus, maybe people have the correct methods, but lack proper use of these methods, like an improper use of a tool. In the alien channelings this feels related to the topic of “balancing”.

Taoist books, it is said that you have to become soft like a child to reverse aging, if I remember correctly. Speaking in body terms, you have to such a body that there would be no tightness, in my opinion.

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I want to add.

Now his face is in bad shape in my opinion. Bags under eyes, cheeks looks bad, jaw line looks bad. He will die as a normal person or from some health issue :grinning:

How do they dare to call themselves teachers, possibly mislead other people, if they don’t know themselves.