A lifetime of struggle. That’s how I see it. I’ve been on this planet for some time, and yet something still can be done better… Seem we have to struggle in a way that’s enjoyable, effective, finding that balance between “I see that it would be worth doing this or that” and “this feels natural, this feels right, this is where I’m fulfilling myself right now.”
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You know what I need to hear! Thank you
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Honestly. I can’t stop “giving our conscious attention to painful things” knowing when there are beings who suffer and feel pain because it means stop paying attention to those who have pain. Because of what is called empathy.
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As you interpret it, yes, you’re right. I used what I used in a specific context and had specific things in mind. At the time, I was thinking, among other things, about these looping streams of thought that constantly lead us astray, leaving us in repetitive mental suffering. It wasn’t my intention to deny interpersonal empathy. That would be pointless.
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This is a spiritual forum.
There’s a flag icon right there if you need the mods
Flags. Why so much authority? We’re all equals. Don’t get scared. I just wanted to point out this is insanity. Flags are insanity too. All is insanity.
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No, you’re right, I’m terrified. A new person shows up and breaks the news to me that this is a _spiritual forum_. I can’t handle the insanity.
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If people are familiar with me. My political opinions are not in doubt here. But that’s not what I wanted to say on this thread.
I think the idea that politics is somehow ‘lower world’ and that spiritual people are above it, is not at all supported by the Law of One material and that there is room for taking quotes from the Law of One and justifying one or the other position.
For instance, somewhere I think in Session 40, there is a statement by the Law of One contact: The red ray is a fundamental ray and should never be condescended to as less important.
Hellenistic dualism. The idea that there is a material world and a spiritual world and we should live in the latter and not bother about the former. One of the influences that inspired the ‘virgin birth’ narrative in the early church. I don’t believe this is a position held in the Law of One.
So some relevant quotes to the discussion might be:
Questioner: A reflection of this could be seen in our density in many of those leaders that instigate war and have followers who support, in total conviction that the direction of conquest is correct. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. Any organization which demands obedience without question upon the basis of relative power is functioning according to the above-described plan.
Another is this:
Questioner: Could you give an example of negative polarization sharing love of self? It would seem to me that that would deplete negative polarization. Could you expand on that concept?
Ra: I am Ra. We may not use examples of known beings due to the infringement this would cause. Thus we must be general.
The negatively oriented being will be one who feels that it has found power that gives meaning to its existence precisely as the positive polarization does feel. This negative entity will strive to offer these understandings to other-selves, most usually by the process of forming the elite, the disciples, and teaching the need and rightness of the enslavement of other-selves for their own good. These other-selves are conceived to be dependent upon the self and in need of the guidance and the wisdom of the self.
My emphasis. When someone says that the other side of the aisle should not be able to vote because they are too stupid to do so. As I have heard expressed in real life. I think of this quote.
There is also quite a bit written in the Crucifixion of Esmerelda Sweetwater that might expand the morality discussion as far as political views.
There is also a fundamental difference in values which is more than skin deep. On the left, people are not given personal responsibility. The rich are inherently evil and should be taxed. The poor, even if they commit heinous crimes, or have multiple kids they can’t afford or whatever it is. Were always a response from environment conditioning or something.
The right sees things very very differently. Criminals go to jail. Social shaming and tradition should be used to prevent people having kids they cannot afford and such like that. There is far more agency given to individuals under the rights system.
So if people are expressing these viewpoints even without mentioning politics. It is still a political conversation. This is also directly relevant to the first distortion. The most important metaphysical law as laid down by the Law of One. I would say a serious philosophical discussion cannot be had about these issues without mentioning politics. It is a glass ceiling of sorts.
There is also another issue that relates to our lives that is important. These issues can become serious enough that they dent our ability to deal with real people that might have a reflection on our real world service. There are some that feel strongly enough that people on the other side of the political aisle might not be suitable for friendship. There are others wanting to deal with that etc.
Before the fall of the Berlin Wall. A lot of Germans from the communist side were given up to the police forces by moderates. Not fanatics. They were sold to the police for slightly right wing views by close friends. When the records were opened this caused a lot of issues. A lot of insight into these relationships.
This also reflects in channeling in general. I have read channeling and perceived an extremely strong overlay of one of these viewpoints. So this is definitely relevant to the discussion of spirituality.
Plus, there are clear dividing lines. The left leans towards atheism. Very strongly. In fact I would say in many cases they are fairly emphatically non Christian. Whereas the right is the opposite. So it is hard to say that ones spiritual choices are somehow separate from the society they are attempting to enforce on the world at large.
My view, and this is anecdotal. Just caught from various little slips and glimpses in these communities. Is that the community is heavily skewed left. While it is not relevant to this community specifically. The Law of One reddit forum exploded with orgasmic joy when Charlie Kirk got shot. A lot of people very explicitly claiming that they were happy he died. While that is more of a younger persons mindset and I don’t think the people here who are likely older have that same zeal towards violence done in the name of state power. (I don’t think the older individuals really grip quite what the younger leftists are like now). I have still seen subtle leanings in general, including channeled works as I referred to, that say to me that the entire area is more heavily filled with people on the left side of the aisle.
For instance, as a small point. There was suddenly mass meditations when Israel was bombing Gaza which is more of a female/ leftist issue than a male issue. People have actually said on this forum more than once to me they are on the left wing side as well. Also, it is more often leftists that censor the conversation, declaring that no one should talk about politics, while quietly tone policing everyone to make sure that they are all in line with leftism. The right is a more masculine style and just fights it out.
I really appreciate your extensive post Phoenix.
To my understanding 6 billion people worldwide follow some form of religion and the atheists are in fact a minority.
But I see how it makes sense the left is more atheïst in the US.
And good that your bring in Kirks death.
I have to admit I was a listener to his channel, and I appreciated how solidly he argued for christianity.
But I do not judge the people that where happy with his death. I do see how Kirk could have been a force for evil as well, as he denied many people that their way of life was inherently ‘good’. And in my understanding of the infinite creator, he considers every lifepath as worthy and valuable, although they wont all end in the same place.
So to my understanding the best people are the ones that can respect every viewpoint they meet. And the best Christians are the ones that can grow beyond the silo of Christianity.
And it could be humanity as a whole is ultimately better off without Kirk on the planet at this time.
To my understanding the negative path has the responsibility for causing suffering and enjoying the proces of creating this suffering. In my language we call it creating a ‘Lijdensweg’ or ‘a lifepath of suffering ‘. The negative enjoys creating this suffering for others and self and hereby gains an energy source from which they manifest reality.
But also the negative always needs hierarchy to do this.
I believe cancel culture is part of the negative path because it wants to prevent certain viewpoints from gaining ground.
But if I can choose between physical warfare and psychological warfare, I prefer psychological warfare. And if there are psychic mechanisms to even prevent psychogical warfare, I prefer that over having an argument that wont lead to anything.
So I see the value in this aspect of negative reality.
A balanced individual from my viewpoint understands both paths to a minimum degree that they can freely choose how polarized they want to be in one direction or the other. I have chosen a minimum polarization to the negative to not have to always live in full surrender.
Politically I vote for parties that seem to represent creativity, innovation and higher guidance for as far as I can sense it.
The parties that do not include some form of connection to a higher intelligence are less intelligent from my perspective, as a matter of fact.
Dude, I have to say that that comes off as a bit cold. Like, I listened to him, but then someone shot him and other people celebrated and I don’t judge those people. So, clearly you did not form any empathy for the guy while listening to him!
Not that it matters to me. I live in the UK I had not heard of him previously. So I have no particular emotion about it. Also, Erika Kirk forgave the killer without contrition so I can hardly care more about him than his wife did.
Yeah, I think there is a bit of a potential issue here with attempting to shoehorn the Law of One paradigm somewhere it doesn’t really fit. The discussion would have made more sense if people just said what their political persuasion was and how that matches their spiritual beliefs and to go from there. But people are afraid of conflict.
I am re reading the Law of One. I plan to just re- read it again and again it is that powerful. I finally got to the whole bull in the pen discussion in I think session 41 or 42. I really like the Law of One and the more I engage in it the MORE alien it starts to become. I always thought the extra terrestrial element of it. The novelty of that, would ware off. But it hasn’t, it just seems to become more alien the more it is read.
But the Law of One does state quite directly that we are meant to really engage with life to get the best out of it. The unstudied response to catalyst. To respond completely authentically. I think that was in Session 40.
The guy saying that post on reddit, about how he felt incredibly happy Charlie had been shot did not phrase it in a way that it was a genuinely good thing. Just that he had that emotion and did not know how to balance it. My thinking on the correct way to address that discussion, if he really DID want to handle that emotion. Would be to take the emotion to entropy during meditation as advised in session 46.9/ 104.2. There is more insight and such that could be used to discuss that. More reflection on what his values are and what he wants his values to be.
The reddit forum though just piled on in celebratory zeal and then the mods canned the post. So nothing was gained from the discussion. Except perhaps a bit of insight by people like me observing.
But I think when discussing the pure complexity of political subjects and a lot that goes with it that a layer of complexity can be brought in that doesn’t interact with the Law of One that neatly. Take for example, I read a passage the other day I CANNOT find now, (I need to make more notes) that said, as I interpret it, that green ray is kind of passive and doesn’t change the other person but blue ray can undo energy blockages in others. By communicating obviously.
In real life though, we can often not assume we know what is going on within another. If they are passive and do not speak their truth then we do not know if they are green ray or not, because they are not speaking. There are plenty of people not speaking concealing nasty intent. As an example. I hope I am making sense.
On Christianity and the right and left. I would say that the reason the right and Christianity go together is because of a fundamental correlation in world views. In Christianity. You have agency and choice because it is with that choice that you choose heaven or hell. I suspect a lot of atheists are left wing because they worship the state. We are inborn with something that wants to worship. So leftists choose the state. A lot of atheists when asked what they believe morally, simply respond with ‘But Christians…’ They don’t have any moral beliefs outside their rejection of Christianity. They are also often big on hedonism and say things like ‘Well, I don’t want to go killing people and such so that is my moral principle’… But what about people that do want to go around killing others? Do what feels good is not a moral principle.
Left and right wing beliefs have formed in every single culture, even before there was a great deal of connection between said cultures. So there is some deeper metaphysical or genetic imperative that explains that.
OK, I thought this was going to be more of a conversation. But I figure it stops there. Since the last post was done 13 hours ago.
Rather than giving space then for the conversation to develop I will finish up with final thoughts from me as to politics and the Law of One.
There was a contradiction I realised. In my first post I said politics is important and we should deal with it. In my second I said often the real world is more complex than theoretically perfect Law of One. I want to bridge that.
A way in which it is complex. In the UK we have ‘grooming gangs’. Which is gangs of Pakistani men, who capture very young girls and force them into sex slavery. Because it is politically incorrect and the left doesn’t like to look at it. This has not been addressed by the police. They refuse to deal with it. It is so bad that there was a case where two fathers arrived at the Pakistani’s house to get their kids. The police then went to the fathers and returned the kids to the Pakistani gangs. Councillors and police men also paid to sleep with the girls as well.
One case I remembered. There was a guy who abducted a thirteen year old girl going to school. When she tried to escape he permanently blinded her by putting acid in her eyes then invited 26 of his friends to come around and use her. This has been going on since the 1950’s and the politicians refuse to do anything about it. In fact, the most recent government had promised an investigation and strategically sabotaged it recently.
Against this level of malevolence. I don’t know that the Law of One has anything to say. It perhaps belongs to that ‘transcient’ area because it is far more malevolent than say… Cattle mutilations. It is not happening in my area, but I know about it from national news and such. I have no power over the situation either, and the friends I had had, leftists, would refuse to acknowledge it.
To an extent though I do believe that being politically informed in some ways is relevant. Because often people complaining about being victims are part of the problem. Think of the problem of Obama Care in America. A lot of liberal women are complaining on Tik Tok that the prices are like thousands a month. The deciding vote for Obama Care was immigrant Somalies in Minnesota. So those same women felt good, felt virtuous, aggressively declaring anyone “racist” who said anything about bringing in Somalians or the dangers of Obamacare. So they’re not victims really. It is just the result of their own choices. That kind of education is important to OPPOSE having empathy for those that do not deserve it.
This is perhaps the same thing with Charlie Kirk in the future. Charlie was the most moderate of the right wing voices. He was all about debate and such. Without him the right will probably slowly become more extreme. Which I think is good. The likes of say… Nick Fuentas, whom is more popular in the resultant vacuum. Is pure authoritarian. He basically says most of the left are too stupid to reason with and should be ruled over. In the future, you could get people on the left complaining about ‘authoritarianism’. But it’s like… maybe you should not have celebrated the death of the most moderate voice? I agree with you in a sense then that there are definite benefits to Charlies death.
While being aware of cause and effect like that is important though. It is not really relevant to the Law of One. There is no way that visualising these events as all being the One Infinite Creator explains or solves anything here.
In relation to the areas in which it IS relevant to connect politics to the Law of One though. I have looked at politics. I have decided that being a leftist in any capacity involves having the idea that other people owe you money just because. The left exists via the initiation of force, putting a gun to the head of those they believe should give them money. (This is what taxation is!) So if I believed, as the Law of One teaches in places, that the initiation of force is not an ethical practice. Or if I believed in say ‘thou shalt not steal’. In my understanding I would also not want other to do that on my behalf.
Like, some people politically are like the mafia wife. They want to decorate the house, but don’t want to know where the money comes from.
It is also relevant for me to know gender politics to an extent. It is not possible to understand women and relationship dynamics I don’t think, without an explanation of the political and social environment. Left- right politics. DEI. Has effected dating life in real practical ways that effect our everyday lives. Like, women have gained a lot more resources than men via the power of the state. DEI mandates female hiring. But women always want to date men richer than them. But there are far less men richer than them now. Understanding these things is important in my opinion.
I do have way more thoughts on politics in general. Like, I have thought about non violence a great deal. Or what various philosophers have said on the subject. Especially as I do do communion and submit to some extent to the Christian mythology. However, the conversation here really isn’t active enough for me to go into that in any depth. Like, you only say the very basics to a nearly empty room of people that show no signs of being interested in what you are saying. You just do a basic summary.
Hey Phoenix,
Thanks for your response.
I have to say you misread me in believing I had no empathy for Charlie. The moment I heard about his death I was horrified and I immediately published a post on LinkedIn sharing my condolences with the family, which I had never done before for a public figure.
But how I understand the infinite creator, is that he/she/it is beyond ideas about good and evil. And that is why he/she/it allows us to play out both the positive and negative polarity and choose.
If someone is euphoric about something, I much rather have them be euphoric than downtrodden.
If everyone on earth was already euphoric, we would probably not be as attached to physical wealth and have less conflict on the planet in general.
So the higher vibe, we could say, is actually closer to the truth in an argument.
So if someone was euphoric with Charlies death, does not mean for me that they are killers themselves.
Some spiritual practices advocate to love your demons. Maybe you heard of that before?
So not judging those people is part of me loving my demons.
About the sex slavery you mentioned, that is definitely part of the negative polarity.
In my spiritual life, beings told me of the existence of different hearts:
Blue heart: truth telling heart
Red heart: bleeding heart
Green heart: grounded heart
Brown heart: 90% good 10% evil lives in service to the entirety of humanity and walks his/her talk. But does this in secret
Grey heart: does not decern between good and evil
Bronze heart: took the first step towards goodness
Silver heart: loves in mutual exchange
Gold heart: is willing to give all of him/herself to another without expectations in return.
Black heart: only lives for themselves. 90% evil and 10% good.
White heart: lives in 90% surrender 10% bias. And is public about its goodness.
With my inner vision I attempt to know the color of ones heart to know what someone is like.
I personally aspire to have a Silver heart and incidentally a blue heart. But on some issues I have a grey heart.
It may help with understanding how I interpret good and evil and Charlies death.
I understand why people would judge the ones that celebrated Charlies death and personally I choose not to.
About further discussion, I personally want to emphasise the need for us to discuss the relationship between politics and the law of one.
It not my intention to discuss politics outside of the context of law of one.
OK, well there is one other area that I thought was important to mention. But also I wanted to mention a few other things.
Firstly, a lot of these political arguments can have very strong real world effects. I live in a very left wing town. Very left wing. I have not met anyone on the right in real life for a long time. At least anyone who identified themselves as being on the right.
I used to have a close friendship with this girl. We were not sexual, or nothing seriously sexual. Just friends but I was very good at manipulating her. She was suicidal. But I knew just how to talk to her. I was effectively manipulating her to stay alive. I was being annoyingly clingy in a sense. But I have this thing I do, that I know doesn’t work for most guys, but I can make work. Of being kind of cute deliberately. Not acknowledging her passive aggression and such.
But, I have a lot of people that don’t like me. Her friends did not like me. Not one bit. Because of the political viewpoints. I have a cousin that doesn’t like me and an ex best friends. Together, they all worked with her to get me out of her life and she spent a lot of time with my cousin. Who is not a positive individual. About three months after our friendship ended she jumped off a cliff.
But anyway, there are two additional things that I think are relevant to politics.
Firstly, I spend time thinking through this system which I believe is also from the Law of One contact. The Human Design Chart:
Astrologically, from December 5th 2025. From Friday. I believe we are going to see a lot of long term powerful attention to these matters. Like I said I believe political beliefs are more than skin deep. They represent very deep values. I don’t know if you have seen it online but in 2010 we saw a huge divergence in political viewpoints among the genders. Women went incredibly left wing and men a little more right wing. I think astrologically, this was because of the Chiron - Neptune conjunction in gate 30. This is where a lot of the political energies are stored in my opinion. On Friday Pluto is moving into gate 41 which makes an electro magnetic connection to gate 30. Meaning an incredible amount of pressure will be placed on peoples political beliefs and the motivation for those political beliefs.
This transit is going to be three years. Or two and a half roughly. Until some time in 2028. I have more understandings of the meaning of gate 30. What it will look like etc. But I don’t have time for that. I believe, personally, that this gate has a lot to do with mental health in general.
That ends where my own information ends. The information I create as where I am at. I do want to add in some information though which is more correctly a sixth density kind of perspective. The sixth density expends effort to see what is going on in the other because that is where positive and negative polarity rejoin each other in the positive.
First, just for fun, I don’t know if you have seen this heatmap thing. It is a social media talking point and it is that the left has more affection for the outgroup (immigrants etc.) than their own family in studies and questoinnaires and things. While the right has more affection for their own families first:
But this is what I actually wanted to discuss:
One of the theories as to the left and right difference is that it is gendered. Here is something that represents how the different genders see free speech and it shows that women in general don’t believe in it. The theory, along the EvoPsych route. Is that women are designed, evolutionarily, to deal with babies and toddlers. If you are looking after babies and toddlers you have to prevent them getting a whole lot of information. You don’t want them to know, for instance, how to turn the cooker on. I know that the suppression of free speech from the left is applied to adults but I don’t know that the internal psychological workings of people make that distinction.
This could explain a lot of things. For instance, in a tribe, the women will not tend to know where the resources come from. The men go out and hunt and do stuff and the women are confined to the tribe and community in their activity. So this might be the ‘mafia wife’ phenomenon.
I have a theory that the ring in the Lord of the Rings represents female power uncapped. The ring is a marriage ring. It is also a ‘hole’. I think in a real life which acknowledged higher powers, womens sexuality would be confined to somewhat functional relationships and their behaviours to higher principles brought from connections to higher positive entities. But in this atheist world we live, women have the power of hedonistic sex, one night stands and such, (that are reliant on abortions!) to literally bend the entire world to their will like the ring does to the people it effects.
This is why there is a massive wealth transfer across the entire world from men to women. Alimony, child support, welfare, DEI jobs, fake jobs (“lazy girl jobs”), government jobs. Men pay twice in taxes than they receive back from the state. And women receive twice as much as they pay. There seems to be something of progressive woke politics at work even in those women that profess right wing values. It is inbuilt.
A lot of my male friends that I now am very glad I am disconnected from went extremely left wing because, in my view, of female influence.
Hi Phoenix,
You make a lot of good points and I appreciate you for all your inputs.
I cannot respond in kind entirely out of lack of time.
But I want to emphasise that I think you being able to have manipulated that girl is a good thing.
And also, if people dont like you, that is exactly why discussing politics matters, because politics is a popularity game.
And being loved and loving others is what its all about here on earth, if we are to follow the law of one teachings.
So if your tribe is left wing and you are right wing, it could help if you in fact did learn to appease their left wing point of views, and maybe if you really did your best there, they might want to join you a bit more on the right.
Or it would make sense to move out of town and surround yourself more with like minded people.
Im not perfect in that sense either, where there are many neighbors I almost never talk to. But I consistently hear in my spiritual realm the benefits of giving people the benefit of the doubt.
About human design, what makes you think it comes from the same social memory complex?
Interesting, the points about the constellations and their influence on politics. Its something Ive not looked into before.
For me, the Human Design is where my strongest self insight is coming from. It is relevant to my disagreements with others and politics.
My mother, the friend I mentioned, and another previous long term friend: All have gate 30. All have a completely unmovable, emotional, connection to left wing politics that is completely immune to logic. From a kind of ‘caring’ position.
My ex best friend, one of those that tried to have an intervention to make me less right wing: This guy sent me long messages trying to create said intervention from a supposedly ‘moderate’ position. It was true, he didn’t have super strong left wing opinions. Not worked out ones. Although he did believe just about anything was racist. Nevertheless, his unconscious Venus was in gate 13.2: Moderation as the least offensive form of bigotry.
He was literally being ‘bigoted’ from a position of ‘moderation’.
My half sister has 23.5 in detriment in her moon: Motive driven assimilation: Motive driven assimilation from an inferior position. I.e. for protection or nourishment. Motive driven assimilation for acceptance and protection of the collective.
I.e. she cosies up to the group and makes sure not to be close to eccentrics like me.
For me personally in relation to your points. I can’t really relate much to that. I was very very ill previously in a way that effected my brain chemistry unknowingly. I am still unwell physically, but as I improve I am far better mentally. So I was fairly obsessive on the conspiracy types of politics. I was informally diagnosed as schizotypal at one point, on the kind of actions that get someone diagnosed with that.. I can’t even remember clearly a lot of things I should be able to remember. So there is not much of a model for how to deal with this in general. I think I would deal with people far better now but I am not sure (I am still kind of eccentric). Since I am unemployed at the moment and probably too ill to work. But my previous friendships, the ship has sailed. Plus they are all into hook ups and marijuana and I’m not so we have grown apart. I am of the age where having kids is not likely, especially with almost no career prospects, so there doesn’t seem to be a point.
I do wonder if a ‘Q’ narrative is true though. The idea being that the world discussed in the Law of One. Of extra terrestrials and such, is due to be revealed to the world after the arrest of the service to self individuals on this planet. Of note, Trump. and other high powered political figures, have been posting things about Q:
The implications on spirituality of the Q stuff happening would obviously be very interesting.
Hello my friend,
Well, I’d like to suggest you focus on the formation of the social memory complex.