Let's talk about "violating free will"

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Suppose this:
some individuals with absolute government power want to initiate a nuclear war, but the vast majority of people do not wish that.

In this situation, if the confederation prevents the launch of nuclear weapons, does it violate free will?

If some people want it to happen but others do not, how should free will be measured? The Law of Double? Or they can not prevent the launch but can do something in the time/space to prevent the true loss of creator?

Isn’t this a paradox?

My further concern is that, although the confederation does not distinguish between Earth’s people, decisions are often made by a few government representatives instead of the large population. However, most people do not want those things to happen; they simply don’t know about them, as they are kept hidden.

What is the mechanism behind this? Can it be understood that if the majority does not oppose, it is considered as tacit approval?

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Free will is paramount and transcends all else, making it of utmost importance. However, it’s essential to remember that free will in third density does not always manifest fully at this level. While third-density beings possess their own will, they are, to a significant extent, compelled to respond to decisions made in higher densities, including those influenced by their own higher selves.

For example, consider the case of a potential nuclear war affecting individuals. Each person, at a higher level, has a higher self operating beyond the awareness of third-density consciousness, residing in a state of expanded understanding and perception of time. These higher selves may participate in a process of deliberation: “Who agrees with this course of action?” “Who accepts this catalyst?” “Who chooses not to?” This scenario, while metaphorical, illustrates the general concept and is meant to engage the imagination.

Ultimately, a consensus may emerge regarding the outcome. A collective decision could be reached, such as: “Based on the democratic choice of all involved souls, we agree upon scenario one, while scenarios two and three are dismissed.” Again, this is more metaphorical than literal—that description. The resulting decision may be enacted by forces such as Nature, the Cosmos, or higher-density entities aligned with STS, or it may be neutralized by those aligned with STO.

In this way, individuals in third density, despite possessing free will, must often conform to these higher-level decisions. It’s important to acknowledge that such decisions are made with attention to the choices of those in lower densities. Nonetheless, the choices made at higher levels exert a more profound influence. Pure free will at the level of third density is granted within the scope of what can be released and made available to third density by higher-level choice.

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Аfter reading your answer, I remembered how I recently read the channeling of Quetzalcoatl, where he says, comparing himself with Ra, that he does not consider his attempts to help unsuccessful, and says that this is a strange path that the Creator decided to go, and so this path they could not predict. This once again reminds me that the Higher Self of the 6th density is connected to a part of you from the 7th density, which directs the Higher Self. You talk about voting as a metaphor, but for me the main conductor is the Creator. I think that at the level of the 7th density there is some special kind of “teamwork” that is not visible to us and not fully understood in densities below, so in 6th density it looks like we are all separated. In general, I want to say that the illusion is so grandiose, but everything is good and whole.

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Also. When I think about the 7th density, a football team comes to my mind. Today you are a goalkeeper and can rest on the field (life), the team will try for you, and tomorrow you are a striker and you have to try hard and move around the field, overcome difficulties. Although the goalkeeper usually rests, sometimes he also needs to coordinate quickly and be active for a while.

I mean that in one life you are like a goalkeeper, in another life you are like a striker. People have different roles in their lives, but if you look at it from the 7th density perspective, everything is perfect and holy.

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To get back to the initial question of nuclear war and free will, perhaps we also remember that there was a call from the entity Earth for help after the second nuclear explosion in Japan at the end if WW2

So perhaps that call for help which was answered supersedes in some way the possible new nuclear war event ?

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Your reply is indeed insightful. The higher self might plan at a higher level, or participate in the time/space.

This reminds me of something I recently read. Q’uo material from HARC.

We would say that it is the case that among those of the planet Maldek which was blown up, there was eventually sufficient healing that these individuals were able to continue their journey along the way. And so the question then arises: Is there any perspective within the creation from which it can be said that the experience of the blowing up of Maldek was a favorable one? That is to say, that it offered to the Creator a kind of information about the Creator that the Creator might otherwise not have had.

Now if the answer to that question is “yes,” then one could say “Q.E.D.” which is a short-hand to indicate that the proposition that all is well within the universe has been demonstrated.

Now, if it should turn out that there was nothing really gained from such an experience, but only a delay indicative of a slowing-down of the conduit of information back to the Creator, it could be said that it was an event without intrinsic interest, and therefore something that the Creator itself might feel would have been well avoided. We are those of the Confederation of Planets in Service to this One Creator, and, my friends, we must admit to you that we do not plumb the depths of that Creator, and this is one of the areas in which the depths, for us, remain unplumbed.

What about Maldek? It seems that until reach the octave, we always have something unplumbed. If our higher self still has some things unplumbed, how do they make decisions?

Before Maldek was blown up, do their higher-self participate in a process of deliberation?

Let’s focus more on spiritual matters rather than immersing ourselves in the sadness and fear of nuclear war.

The ego, higher self, and totality being are like three points on a circle. Higher self can call the totality being for help just like the ego call the higher self.

Can we understand this as a catalyst for both the Higher Self and the ego, enabling them to learn and grow, to explore the unplumbed things?

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I’m thinking that electromagnetic pulses
or EMP evade the spiritual complex in
a way interfering with incarnation review
and harvest process. So there’s some
exception based on earlier learning that
may have not been understood well
before. Maybe the 100K year tangle
of Maldek was consequence of something
like that.

By contrast, some past president dropped
a mother of all bombs or MOAB on
Afghanistan and that wasn’t stopped,
as if all those ISIS decimated could come
back to disrupt another day. I like to
think STS disrupters go back to 2D for
some chance of rehab.

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Your answer is also excellent. We may conceive of the Creator as the ultimate equivalent of all the individual wills of the countless entities, with Its own will be holding a certain supremacy and separateness over all creation. However, it is important to remember that while the Creator has the first and last word, It cannot directly influence the free will of the portions of Itself existing within individual beings in the lower densities.

Such interference would disrupt the natural evolution and journey of these entities, which includes the exploration of various paths. In doing so, they experience their growth and forge pathways to return to the Creator, particularly through the development of positive polarity. The Creator therefore balances all existing wills and acts as the great Equalizer of everything and everyone involved, including Its own will as one of the portions.

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I believe that what I write reflects the material of the Confederation, and I draw the appropriate conclusions from it. However, this is merely my perspective, and it is always valuable to deepen one’s understanding and explore the subject further. As always :slight_smile:

Clearly, there is no need to dwell on the visualization of a great war catastrophe, as this may only invite its likelihood. However, such a theme also carries certain advantages, as it allows us to recognize the presence of a higher intelligence, a guiding power, ensuring that our suffering is never without purpose.

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I / WE chose peril as our directive we always choose peril. I can’t tell you why, but it’s always been this way. Look back in our written history anyways. No pain NO GAIN I choose to believe in NO FEAR/ NO REGRETS. From my filter if you think or believe in N war you are succumbing to the FEAR. Look back on that attack on one of the power plants in Ukraine, They were shooting at the plant and this GREAT WHITE LIGHT came down and everybody stop shooting. They said it was a flare, but it was 100 times brighter than a flare and did not fall like a flare. It was amazing.:heart:LOVE/LIGHT​:heart:and LAUGHTER​:heart:

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Violation of free will is tightly correlated with Law of Karma or in other words will have karmic impact.
Karmic law is binding towards any entity in all densities.
How does massive events like destruction of planet (like Maldek) viewed in relation to the law of Karma?
Does not those which caused the destruction will have massive karmic impact from those who did not desire the destruction on Maldek?

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If we could view this matter from a time/space perspective, we might gain a better understanding.

However, reading about someone else’s reincarnation experiences also is violation of free will.

I wonder if there is any relevant channel material.

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Reading someone else experiences is not a violation of free will.
As identity is virtual, when we got “our” past life incarnation experience it’s basically an experience of ‘someone else’ / some other identities. Thus it’s normal for multiple incarnating entities to recall the same incarnation experience of the same identity.
Telling other incarnating entity about their past (or future) reincarnation experience without their inquiry is a violation of free will, it’s like the “sin” of telling a spoiler about the storyline of a movie. It will ruined the experience of enjoying the movie. Unless of course the audience is deliberately ask for it… we can confirm it by asking “Are you sure? Because this will be a spoiler for your movie enjoyment experience…”.

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According to the Confederation’s perspective, everything that emanates from the source eventually returns to it. This source is not only the One Infinite Creator in relation to Creation, but each individual entity is also a source. The Confederation does not speak strictly of karma but rather of the balancing of energy. Everything we send out energetically returns to us. It may come back in different forms and be divided into smaller fragments, but the essence remains the same. This process can unfold over the course of a single lifetime or span many lifetimes.

Those who were intensely belligerent on Maldek, violating free will and causing suffering to others, have likely already experienced the consequences of their actions multiple times—whether on this planet or another, somewhere in the universe. Some may have even deepened their imbalance through further negative actions.

What has occurred in the past 25 years, what is happening now, and what will happen in the coming years is, in my view, is largely the result of the unresolved energies from World War II. Which may further pull similar patterns for those who, at some point, have strayed from the path of love to the path of wariness. Including those from Maldek who chose to live on Earth rather than somewhere else in cosmos.

Some will likely transcend this situation, while others may be born on another planet where wars are still occurring. However, this will no longer be Earth, as it has already transitioned into a 4th-density positive planet. Day by day, the Earth is in the process of cleansing itself of negativity and growing in positivity. This transformation is happening on a planetary scale, though it may not be immediately apparent in local or individual events. Eventually, the local and individual realms will also align with this broader positive shift.

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Thank you for your explanation, the section quoted above basically IS the law of karma.
Based on the ‘universal mirror principle’, what’s being sent out, will be reflected back, like a mirror.

In eastern philosophy, this ‘law’ is seen as a ‘bond’ or as a ‘tie’.
And can be broken through forgiveness.
You’ve highlighted a good story from one side on Maldek… I might add more additional side as hypothesis.
The ‘victims’ on Maldek will also be given a chance for ‘retribution’ towards the belligerent on Maldek, as both are ‘tied’ by Karma.
Yet the ‘victims’ on Maldek can decide to break this bond by forgiving the belligerent and thus ascending / evolving further on their spiritual journey, maybe through STO path.
The ‘victims’ on Maldek can also did just that, extract ‘retribution’ towards the belligerent on Maldek and also evolving further on their spiritual journey, maybe through STS path.
Thus in both cases the catalyst is given that can be used for entities to evolve further…

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Thank you for sharing your insights. We seem to align in our perspectives, though it is evident that there are nuances and subtleties that can be refined further.

I believe it is essential to explore the concept of balance in a wider context, one that transcends the notion of Karma itself. According to the Confederation, everything we claim and utilize for ourselves—regardless of whether we harm others (intentionally or not intentionally) or we don’t harm them anyway—ultimately requires a return in some form to restore equilibrium.

For instance, even if an individual has not directly harmed anyone, if they position themselves as affluent by leveraging certain circumstances, they will inevitably encounter the necessity of balancing this dynamic. This may manifest as dedicating their energy towards uplifting others, a responsibility that must be embraced at the latest in sixth density if they wish to continue their evolution. Of course, this balancing work can already be started at level 3 density.

In the context of balance, it is also worth noting that an individual who selflessly channels their energy—recognizing that all energy at first emanates from the Creator—toward the welfare of others will find that this energy is destined to return to them in due time. Such individuals can expect to receive the fruits of their generosity by third density at the earliest and by sixth density at the latest, which will aid them in their ascent towards seventh density.

I perceive a distinction between general balance and Karma. Karma may be viewed as a sub-principle of the overarching balancing principle, wherein psychic and spiritual relationships carry additional significance. In this sense, these relationships can be resolved through the transformative power of forgiveness—both for oneself and for others.

Please tell me if I am resonating with your thoughts. I welcome your feedback and any further insights you wish to share.

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I like your movie analogy;
Judging whether it is a violation of free will indeed requires very subtle thinking.

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I admit part of my view is influenced by Jesus who teaches the “other path” in comparation to widely popular “eye for an eye” philosophy.

You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
– Matt 38

And inline with Lao Tse:
There is no greater illusion than fear, no greater wrong than preparing to defend yourself, no greater misfortune than having an enemy. Whoever can see through all fear will always be safe.
– Lao Tse, Tao The Ching

And Ra, forgiveness as eradicator of karma (or in Siddhartha’s lingo the brake on the wheel of karma)

Q: You stated yesterday that forgiveness is the eradicator of karma. I am assuming that balanced forgiveness for the full eradication of karma would require forgiveness not only of other-selves, but forgiveness of self. Am I correct?

Ra

I am Ra. You are correct. We will briefly expand upon this understanding in order to clarify.
Forgiveness of other-self is forgiveness of self. An understanding of this insists upon full forgiveness upon the conscious level of self and other-self, for they are one. A full forgiveness is thus impossible without the inclusion of self.

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I don’t think free will precisely works like that. It isn’t a question of ‘people don’t want a nuclear war’. It’s not the Law of Attraction. I think it’s more that people choose either good, bad or indifferent and things work out in relation to that general choice. So if a person is good/ service to others, they are being guided by the positive entities and bad/ STS they are handed over to the negative entities. I will use an example to illustrate.

Kind of scary when you think of it like that.

But even so we do have a proxy for the expression of free will. We have voting. It’s also, in my belief, that the term ‘free will’ is a beginning, but there is more in understanding the concept. Like, These things manifest in the real world so people generally understand them. The negative can’t just “go to war” because the illusion of democracy would be broken too fiercely. They have to make a whole narrative and lies so that when they do what they were going to do anyway, the population has some justification for it. Even if they do not want it, they have a reason, they are too apathetic to actually do anything to stop it, and they justify it by the fact they voted.

But on the topic more precisely. Firstly, do nuclear weapons even exist? It’s a worthwhile question. “They lie to the fish”. Here is someone discussing the area in general. Video practically starts at 1:50:

So, we don’t know that the Confederation is stopping anything in particular.

We also have a good example with the current election. The chessboard is set so the pieces are positioned. Everyone is ready for War it’s just whether Trump gets in and stops it or Kamala gets in and her handlers kick it off for real:

AP: US is sending more troops to the Middle East as violence rises between Israel and Hezbollah: US sends more troops to Middle East as tensions rise between Israel and Hezbollah | AP News

NBC News: Pentagon puts 8,500 troops on ‘heightened alert’ as U.S. weighs military action against Russia: Pentagon puts 8,500 troops on 'heightened alert' as U.S. weighs military action against Russia

So what we see here is a simple expression of free will. Now, Kamala voters don’t necessarily know this. A lot of Kamala voters are single issue voters. They want to be able to abort children. They don’t consciously agree with US-EU vs. BRICS war, leading probably to the destruction of the US-EU imo. They don’t consciously agree to get Napalmed which will probably be how that ends. But they have chosen their polarity and that’s how I think the whole area works.

A quote from Ayn Rand, a person is free to make choices, but not free from consequence:

[Man] is a specific organism of a specific nature that requires specific actions to sustain his life. . . . That which his survival requires is set by his nature and is not open to his choice. What is open to his choice is only whether he will discover it or not, whether he will choose the right goals and values or not. He is free to make the wrong choice, but not free to succeed with it. He is free to evade reality, he is free to unfocus his mind and stumble blindly down any road he pleases, but not free to avoid the abyss he refuses to see. . . . Man is free to choose not to be conscious, but not free to escape the penalty of unconsciousness: destruction.