Intelligent Infinity: what is it exactly and how do you know you've penetrated it?

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Thank you, Mirror. You are extremely helpful. Believe it or not but I feel how you can help in the effect your answers have… like subtle effects that power insight and inspiration. You know, like a dish prepared with love have something in its taste and in its nourishing effect :smiling_face:

It actually dedicates to anyone who answered my call here in the discussion. I love you, guys. Owing to you all I know that I at least had a taste of Intelligent Infinity and saw directions where I can learn and be more helpful to others and become truly happy living the dreams of my soul :grinning_face:

Let your innermost desires become clear to you one day!

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Thank you. I do have my better moments now and then.

Yes, this is the cool part of what otherwise can feel like a messed up construct.ion of 3D. By drilling down inwardly and knowing ourselves in depth we may find our connection to what is of us as well as far beyond us at the same time.

So far as I can tell, this is part of what Ra was referring to when they spoke of our inner “geography.”

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For sure! While with this understanding and feeling 3D becomes the most epic and fascinating story you read and write simoultaneously. IMHO, The understanding and feeling require constant discipline and virtue development thou. Otherwise messed up construction vibes bring inspiration down.

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Sorry for the delay.

65.19 Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner.

I meant the situation is such that those who have dual activated bodies are not aware of it. It is situation as if we were sitting in a room and knowing someone from us has it but didn’t have idea who.

Yes, I agree that “empathy and acute unity awareness may also be a sign”. But I have no idea how to find it more clearly.

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Do you meditate? Can you look within in a gentle, penetrating manner? If not, get that going.

If so, go to places that are dedicated to doing that work or places of dedicated spiritual energy such as monasteries, ashrams, sacred mountains or other such places. The vibrations of such places can help deepen your meditative seeking.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for websites like this one. ha hah

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I remember my colleague replied when I was asking about an issue with words “try to debug and see what the problem is”. It’s like a “the solution to your problem is to find a solution”.

From my perspective which I guess you may find distorted, I’m talking about collective cooperation when saying about group in the room, while you propose an individual solution which cannot be achieved by design because for interaction there should be at least two persons. Proposing leaving “room” I’m sitting now corresponds to declining to cooperate (but it is me who should leave). Also it burdens me with all responsibility which is incorrect (again, from my perspective as all what I said) because responsibility for interaction lays on both but not on one side. I find this place to be correct to talk about dual activated bodies as opposed to many other places. In the social memory complex which is of forth density there is a word “social”.

In other words you suppose finding my answer for myself somehow will settle down social question magically, while I’m talking about magic itself. To recognize in other forth density being I need another being and I guess concentration of them here should be higher than in other places. What I said (“I agree and don’t know how to find”) was a confirmation and gentle invite to continue finding answer and recognize forth density being in each other if it’s possible. Yes, I don’t know how, but at least “empathy and acute unity awareness” is better than nothing, and confirmation is better than nothing.

Thinking up for you what you think as I think, you suppose if I’m saying about problem so that’s my problem so I need to go and solve it. I only see dissuasion from approaching the answer.

P.S. Because of dangerous circumstances I rarely go outside from my house even at one kilometre distance. Leaving country is prohibited by government and all the country is stuffed with roadblocks. I do not go to the forest which is one kilometre from me. And I do not want to withdraw into oneself.

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You are right on time, I presume.

I see… But the Earth is becoming fully-fledged 4th density positive :wink:, so we can expect corresponding capabilities to gradually unravel in those who came here to lead by example relatively soon. I feel soooooo excited :laughing:

How to find it more clearly? If it’s necessary I would try to feel if it’s true that someone is a wandarer. We can use logic as well looking at possible lessons and polarity indicators.

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Sorry, I completely misunderstood your post. Please disregard my reply.

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All is OK, Mirror. Thank you for the reply!

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I happen to be re-reading Michael Newton’s Journey of Souls, his first book.

It’s interesting to see that when between incarnations we really study in depth our decisions in terms of ‘morality’ , ‘empathy’ , ‘courage’ of sticking to what we then value or simply in terms of posivity.

It’s never, never about anyone else. Even though we have planned specific events with specific other selves.

It’s really interesting as it is both about the feeling of unity and yet centering on the Self uniquely when studying past choices

When reaching a certain level the cluster will become very small. We shall stay to work with only one or two more other selves.

But then you also start to help or guide other selves and solitude fades, temporarily.

And it definitely underlines how , as an incarnated human we are all wildly hard upon the self, while incarnating. That harsh judgment disappear when in between incarnations.

It migh be due to the fact that incarnating is a privilege. Even if at times, it hardly feels like it… lol

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Let me specify, you want to learn the way to know exactly who’s with dual activated body around you for some collective work purposes?

Reading this I thought about The Brothers Karamazov book. There is some peak STO philosophy and personas there. As well as STS influences, depolarization with a power of love and vice versa, an more. Dostoevsky might have had a dual activated body:) One of the best and hardest elements presented there is the total responsibility for everything that happens in this world. I still don’t grasp it entirely but it strikes deep where I don’t see yet. One of the characters before his death, had a drastic change of hearts and felt responsibility for everything in the world and asked even birds to exuse him for his arrogance he showed before (he didn’t do anything particularly wrong just for a while stopped believing in God). People thought he was losing his mind a bit but his little brother never forgot his love and tendernes towards everything around him and it deeply affected his life. I cried when I read short story about this character in the book. IMHO, there’s no particular use in just knowing that someone has a dual activated body. Anyway, personal (winkwink) spiritual balancing and purification can make one’s intuition clerer, apart from helping this world to become a little bit lighter and happier. The harder the challenge, the bigger the reward. Was this in any way helpful to you?

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Hello, sorry for not answering soon. My garage was flooded and I’ve been struggling with aftermath. By the way, in the very bottom of a box was “Crime and Punishment” completely damaged.

I started listening “The Brothers Karamazov” you recommended, at the moment 20% is done. Not sure when I finish, will let you know.

I wanted to answer you questions and started building chain of thoughts that led from intelligent infinity to dual activated bodies and found I deviated from the original question quite much. So I had been reproaching oneself for that during first week, during second week I found out that actually I didn’t see other proposals so why not looking at least something, on third week I thought that maybe the deviation itself was the cause.

So I don’t think if it’s worth to continue. Currently it’s looking like I’m persuading my own task and involving others into it.

P.S. As for the “Dostoevsky might have had a dual activated body”, I don’t think so:

63.12 Questioner: Approximately how many are here now who have come from other planets third density harvestable for fourth-density experience?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a recent, shall we say, phenomenon and the number is not yet in excess of 35,000 entities.

63.13 Questioner: Now these entities incarnate into a third-density vibratory body. I am trying to understand how this transition takes place from third to fourth density. I will take the example of one of these entities of which we are speaking who is now in a third-density body. He will grow older and then will it be necessary that he die from the third-density physical body and reincarnate in a fourth-density body for that transition?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are those incarnating with what you may call a double body in activation. It will be noted that the entities birthing these fourth-density entities experience a great feeling of, shall we say, the connection and the use of spiritual energies during pregnancy. This is due to the necessity for manifesting the double body.

This transitional body is one which will be, shall we say, able to appreciate fourth-density vibratory complexes as the instreaming increases without the accompanying disruption of the third-density body. If a third-density entity were, shall we say, electrically aware of fourth-density in full, the third-density electrical fields would fail due to incompatibility.

To answer your query about death, these entities will die according to third-density necessities.

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Hi, itudemo! Good to hear from you:)

Wow. Tell me what you feel/think when you finish listening. We may discuss the book if you’d like to. I’d like to :grinning_face:

Why are you so harsh on yourself? I love your questions. I thought all the wanderers have dual-activated bodies, and this discussion with you helped me remember that it’s only a special type of wanderers have them activated in 3D upon birth.

I assume folks here are familiar with this pain of loneliness and deep longing for connection; for someone to have a real-life conversation on these topics and to act together. We are people, after all. You know I have this dream of meeting people aware of such realms and working together… but decided it only hurts to rush it… better stay loving, lern lessons, help others and self, and when time comes the Universe will lead me to such people.

Looking forward to discussing the book with you :wink:

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