Christine (a non-Confederation source)

Confederation Philosophy
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Christine

Introduction

Hello once again. This post is about Christine, an opinionated entity who popped their head into the LLR channeling circle on a mission.

This post is part of an ongoing series. Previous posts include Deltron, Orcas, and a list of Confederation sources.

A note before proceeding: in my list of Confederation sources, I stated that Christine only appeared in one session. This entity actually appeared in two channeling sessions, but the initial session was missed because, as will be elaborated, the entity did not feel the need to use a name until requested. I apologize for the slight inaccuracy.

L/L channelings

Appearances: 2
Sessions: 1987-0717, 1987-0721

Session information

Performed in July 1987, these two channeling sessions were part of an “intensive meditation” spanning from July 13th to July 21st, with the inferred purpose of training new vocal channelers.

The sole channeler of Christine is noted in the two transcripts as “W”. The identity of W is unknown to this author. W is referred to as “she” both by Christine and a transcript addendum.

Description of entity

Said by Quanta to be “of a positive nature”, an “interplane contact” (one who dwells “in the inner planes of your planetary energy web”), not a member of the Confederation, not yet moved into fourth density, comprised of multiple entities (refers to “those of us” and “other portions of our complex”).

Nature of contact

In the first session, Christine was the third of three entities to be channeled, after Quanta initially and then Hatonn. After Hatonn spoke through W, Carla then channeled Hatonn, who announced that an entity wished to speak through W. The entity did not provide a name and briefly spoke through W. When the entity left, Hatonn returned to Carla and continued the session. W stated that channeling this entity was “new” to them.

At the start of the second session, Quanta first spoke at some length about “contact with those who are not of the Confederation…” and eventually departed the channeling circle. After a long pause, the entity must have attempted contact with the circle because Carla asked the entity to choose a name that is “acceptable and right” for W, at which point the entity spoke through W and provided the name of Christine. The session transcript ends following Christine’s departure.

Reason for contact

Christine clearly desires to speak through W, though it’s unclear why Christine wished to initiate contact and speak specifically through W. Christine claimed they “have been waiting long, and yet not so long, to begin working with this vocal channel”, noting that they are “most pleased with the progress [W] has made over the past year.” Given that Hatonn notes that “the opportunity to utilize a vocal instrument is one which is greatly cherished by [STO entities],” Christine appears to be trying to serve others by speaking through W. Beyond that, their intentions are unclear.

Primary advice: maintaining future contacts

Christine desires to speak through W into the future. To help establish future contacts, Christine recommends but does not demand that W seek to live a healthy lifestyle by practicing “yoga meditation and internal cleansing”.

Discussion

On initiating contact

A standout element of these two channeling sessions is Christine’s friendly and positive approach to initiating contact. Christine initiates contact with W through the LLR channeling circle. In the first session during which Christine speaks, Hatonn notes that hopeful channels should start their training in a channeling circle of at least three members, with at least one experienced channeler to anchor the circle. Hatonn also recommends that new contacts be experienced within a group anchored by an experienced channeler as a way to “cross-reference” the contact and verify their identity.

On Christine’s personality

Christine’s closing words of the first contact are:

We are honored to be here with you this evening and we will leave now, as those of the Confederation of Planets would say, in the love and the light of the one infinite Creator.

These words suggest that Christine is: 1) aware of the Confederation’s work as an interplane entity, 2) not actually a member of the Confederation, 3) allied-in-spirit with the Confederation’s work. Additionally, during the second session, Christine recognized the efforts of Quanta, Jim, and Carla to establish this initial contact with W. Given Christine came through W during the “intensive meditation” sessions and this contact, I wonder if Christine was waiting to make their presence known until W was properly situated to receive the initial contact in a trustworthy manner.

On the importance of names in channeling

Christine has very strong opinions on names. Christine comments that they feel that “names are but labels which do not [clearly] represent” who they are. Though they remark that “Christine” is adequate for the present, they note that they reserve the right to modify or expand the name in the future.

When channeling, insisting that an entity provide their name is very important. The following information comes from Quanta prior to the second Christine contact:

We strongly suggest that entities not agree to accept the contact which does not declare a name. Few among the Confederation have retained names in the sense that you know them, yet in order that we may speak with those who have names, in order that there be trust and recognition and companionship, we have taken those vibratory characteristics that are most ourselves and molded sound vibration complexes to create the most accurate name we could. It is not well to accept an unnamed contact, for that which does not have a name may indeed evade challenge.

On the Law of Confusion and inner plane entities

Quanta made a comment to which I want to draw attention:

Know, too, that inner plane masters, having by definition had at least one incarnation upon your Earth plane, have the right, and to various degrees the ability, to offer personal material, that is, material concerning someone who wishes to know about previous lifetimes or the efficacy of future actions.

I find this statement provide valuable insight into the nature of the Law of Confusion. During the Ra Contact, Ra generally invoked the Law of Confusion concerning personal questions unless specifically asked about improving the contact (assisting the instrument, maintaining the channeling circle, etc.). Here, Quanta is noting that inner plane entities are actually able to offer “personal material” because they’ve lived on Earth. I’m curious what folks here think about that comment with relation to the Law of Confusion and the helpfulness of inner planes entities in general.

Other channelings of Christine

I am unaware of other channelings of Christine and if W continued channeling Christine beyond these two sessions. Please consider posting on this thread if you find or know any relevant information concerning Christine or W.

Conclusion

Christine made their first appearance in the LLR channeling circle but came with clear intent to initiate contact with W and support them on their life journey. It seems that Christine chose to make contact at a time and place where W felt safe and trusting. Christine’s contact and surrounding commentary provides us with a helpful case study to color the process of making first contact with an entity, especially an entity not of the Confederation. Thanks, Christine.

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I deal mainly with dreamwork. I have helped others on Reddit interpret their dreams using the same dream dictionaries and other tools I use. First I will give you an example of how “they” may enter your dreams without you realizing what they could actually be communicating. This concerns “personal material and the efficacy of future actions.”

Around July of 2019 I was in a bad place in my mind. I wanted something more than anything else. I wanted to experience having a girlfriend. My dreams were saying one thing while >>> I thought I was being lead to something else. Dreams are given in symbolism and metaphor so how one connects with a dream is open to interpretation. I read the Ra Material in mid-2017 and wondered if God had been in communication with us this entire time. This is what propelled me to research dreams. For about 2 years I was seeing that my dreams were a form of therapy. I was being guided to an understanding. The first couple of months were about basic symbols such as geometric shapes and the use of colors. Then the dreams became more sophisticated as if stories were being told but through still images. Eventually, I was watching live action in my mind. Up until July of 2019 I thought dreams were only about the self and how to correct the life experience to a healthy one. It never dawned on me that other communication was present to help another.

I had a few dreams that were pointing toward seeing something in a different way. One dream had me cancel my interview to become a manager. This is something I wish I had experience in so that I could qualify for better jobs in the future. Later in the year I got a job promotion that gave me the same pay as a manager. My new position had me still working on a lower level. In other words, no power. Other dreams around this time period were also pointing toward becoming another type of person or bringing value to a situation. The next month I was having repeating dreams that seemed like I was to tell someone about something that happened in my past. I don’t like talking about the stupidity of my earlier years so I was rejecting the idea of saying anything to whomever I was supposed to give this unknown information to.

It is your choice to believe anything I have said before and anything after this sentence. In my opinion, if we can be given information within a dream then maybe it is possible to transmit other information during our waking day experience.

There was a girl at my place of work that I had a thing for. Something within me thought that it was this person that I had to give information to from my past. She had to travel from her nearby hometown to the city for work. For a few weeks I began receiving phone calls from different numbers where the area code was from this girl’s hometown. I usually never pick up phone calls that I do not recognize. There were a few times where I accidentally answered and the call was disconnected. I was never given a name in my dreams. I had to ask other coworkers if they knew anything about the girl I was into. I had no idea what my dreams were trying to tell me without breaking my free will. I eventually found out that this girl needed surgery and was planning to quit her job. She had cysts that needed to be removed. The dreams finally made sense. I told her about my surgery and that everything turned out fine. A month later I contacted the other job she had and found out she went through with the surgery. She was taking time off from work to recover. We never dated.

I have been helping others with their dreams on Reddit since last year. I have learned that we are all basically dreaming about the same thing. Some people seem to be having trouble about what they are being guided to where others connect with the information almost immediately. There have been a few here and there that are having specific dreams as if a door is open with the choice to take the next step to a higher level of understanding. It is best not to say what I mean by this because again dreams are open to interpretation and I may be wrong about what I am connecting with. The Law of Confusion in this case has much to do with how we all can look at the same picture and describe it in different ways. The confusing part is that we are basing our descriptions on this life experience and not thinking about alternate views.

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I’m wondering if the difference lies in the inner planes entities perhaps being karmically entangled due to their incarnation. Having “the right” to offer personal material seems to imply an agreement being fulfilled. Then again, the word “masters” makes me think those Quanta is referring to would be beyond karmic unraveling.

Couldn’t an “inner plane master” be an entity that is still working to polarize? Therefore the veil would not be fully penetrated and the free will infringement less obvious to and less impactful on the “infringer”.

I could be wrong in my understanding of these concepts (I hope someone will correct me, if so:)

Thanks for this series of posts, Stephen. It’s very interesting and helpful in gaining a grasp of the breadth and varieties of contact made with the Confederation.

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It’s funny because Stephen asked me just this question in a private chat. I’ll leave out references to non-LLR Confederation information since that’s frowned upon, but here’s the gist:

Inner planes entities don’t have a lot of Ra’s clumsiness and naivety about how we think, what we value, how we react, etc. They also lack the wider perspective of higher density at the same time that they have a wider perspective on the totality of third density that we don’t easily see in incarnation. So it’s not so much that they aren’t infringing when they share details about incarnate folks – it’s still potentially an infringement. But basically within a density, it goes without saying that we’re going to share amongst folks in our density as much information as we can, because evolutionarily we’re all in the same boat with the same perspective and concept of self. It’s higher concepts of self that really unnerve us, I think. I think Ra’s points about infringement in 18.6 can be read with profit in this particular area of inquiry.

The point being: I’m not sure karma is the sole underlying force creating this situation, but I think you’re right that there is an important insight into the Law of Confusion here.

I don’t think karma plays a special role here. It’s more like a 3D inner planes entity is held to more or less the same rules as a 3D incarnate entity. For example, if you received a premonition that I will die soon, you telling me might or might not be infringement, but it’s not the same kind of infringement as Ra telling me that.

EDIT: I’m open to ideas about karma playing a special role here, I just don’t see it. It could be a matter of degree of karma for outer planes entities, for all I know.

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I will happily correct you.

Just kidding, of course. Ahem.

I would suppose that an inner planes master is called a master because the polarization is solidified, that is, the person is “living” in service to her higher self all of the time. Therefore, karma is not a salient matter.

As I understand it, what is salient is the perception of authority. If I tell you that I think you should do “xyz,” you can take it or leave it because I’m just some regular guy. But if something with seemingly god-like powers advises you to do something, there’s an imbalance there where you could feel that your free will choice is trivial compared to the directions of a god-like being. This (perceived) squashing of the apparent value of your free will is what is taboo because free will is the first distortion of Divinity, prior, even, to love. So, it’s a big deal in this ideological structure.

Getting to the point now, an entity from an higher density is much more likely to be perceived having an opinion which trumps your own, in a manner of speaking, than a being who has lived on Earth and so has some “regular guy” credibility. Possibly that makes some sense? Connecting to an ascended master feels more like connecting to a high level human as compared to a higher density cosmic wonder.

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Nice point to balance

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That makes sense. If entity “belongs” to a collective (=is in distortion there is a difference between entities from the collective and not), it means entity differentiates entities from the collective and not (by definition). If you’re in distortion of Law of Attraction you should admit entity from Earth have specific “rights”. It is in general about “rights”. As for the specific right to offer material concerning past or future actions I tend to agree because from the timeless point of view entity always “belongs” to the collective.

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And I am happy to be corrected:). For some reason, I had limited the idea of the inner planes in my mind to third density inner planes and not greater time/space.

I think the rest of your comment wasn’t directed to me in particular, but since i’m here:) Makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you. It’s not just the information being relayed that could act as infringement but the dynamic between entities, particulary of different densities, that complicates things.

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This makes sense. People existing on the inner planes are likely still members of the Earth Life School (ELS), especially if they’ve lived on Earth. You and I have no rules prohibiting us from helping each other with “personal information,” the future or past life info. Psychics, tarot readers, etc., do this all the time. Disincarnate persons are no more restricted on helping each other, or us, in accordance with the same social norms we have “down here” about butting into other peoples’ business. We are all in the ELS together.

That said, those inner plane people have the ability to correct mistakes in, shall we say “oversharing”, by getting entangled with the recipient. They might have to incarnate back down here to try and correct their error in judgment. Karma. Higher vibration entities, like the Confederation, don’t really have a very effective way to instantly pivot and to correct oversharing. Ra is a good example; they got “stuck” helping everyone down here for millennia . . . with evidently no end in sight. Their stakes are much much higher for errors in judgment in oversharing.

It all seems very “Star Trek” and “prime directive” to me.

Thanks for sharing this information.

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ARE WE NOT ALL ONE, MASTER OR NOT. :heart: