The debate on how 3rd density is repeated

So there are two theories as to how people believe 3rd density is repeated.

Group 1 believes at the end of a 75,000 year cycle, those who have not polarized will go to a planet which has progressed to a point in 3rd density that is most suitable to their goals. Ex) someone who has very little in the way of preventing them polarizing might be sent to a world nearing its final harvest, while one who might be halfway there could be sent to a world 40,000 years into its cycle.

Group 2 believes at the end of a 75,000 year cycle, all who do not polarize must begin a new cycle starting at the beginning.

I find this whole thing very confusing. What does a cycle even mean? Clearly harvest itself is a continuous process, and any entity can be harvested at any time they polarize, and that the 25k, 50k, and 75k points are just eras in a planet’s history in which there are a greater number of catalysts allowing more to polarize. So then surely, the whole idea of having to repeat a whole density is a bit…extreme? I thought the material said “no progress is lost” or something like that. And having to repeat a full density, or being sent to a planet far less advanced to your spiritual level sounds a lot like progress being lost.

Anyway, thoughts on this?

Why are there only two theories on this subject, according to you?

16.39 Questioner: I am assuming it is not necessary for an individual to understand the Law of One to go from third to fourth density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not of this density.


Do you have another idea?

I’m not saying anything definitively.

My understanding is that this ‘cycle’ is attached to the ‘realm’ and/or ‘planet’ and not the ‘entity’.
The ‘entity’ might ‘logged in’ to the respective realm (space) at respective time to rejoin the ‘next cycle’ of ‘that realm’.

Some example might be:
Entity A failed to be harvested (positive or negative) in earth’s cycle will ‘logged’ in to 3D planet “Kuldadak” (it’s a made up name) for estimated 3 incarnating session there prior to “Kuldadak’s” 3D harvesting cycle.


They are probably furries and plant people. We now have people in our society who would rather be a dolphin or a tree. So this is not surprising.

Both groups are valid.

Repeating high school after 18 doesn’t mean you are “18” again. You are a fully grown adult and will receive a GED.


Like NASCAR, you either think it’s boring or see the intricate complexities behind their strategies.

Although, this is not a race against time or others. You are pacing yourself.

The concept of “heaven” and “hell” is also extreme. Until one realizes that heaven and hell are the space of one’s own creation.

I think that

The less you understand, the better. Like sillyharold’s comment with 16.39

The information could deviate one’s growth to focus on the “destination” of an infinite “journey.”

I usually ask “are we there yet?” when I am bored.


“ They are probably furries and plant people. We now have people in our society who would rather be a dolphin or a tree. So this is not surprising.”
Are we sure dolphins are not third density? I don’t personally want to have sex with one, I just don’t find them attractive, but unfortunately I’ve investigated strange phenomena in general on the internet long enough to know that both genders of dolphin will occasionally have consensual sex with humans…. and even kill themselves due to separation after long term bonding with a human.
Larger brains, language, a more complicated environment with more movement options in many ways, I don’t know. Can they think abstractly? I think it’s a reasonable possibility. Here’s holes for your white rabbits:

I wish I could get government funding to take lsd and ketamine and try to talk to dolphins like Lilly had at one point…

I’d try being a tree for a bit. Probably only a week at most though. As much as our extraterrestrial friends love their meditation, meditation and not much else would quickly become boring, for me at least.

As for furries, that’s a bit much, but just the ears and tail of a cat? The Ctarl Ctarl Empire don’t look half bad in that hot springs episode I watched repeatedly when I was eleven years old…

Obviously reincarnating as a hot 4th density catgirl would be choice though. So I could spray the Orion Empire with green love lasers since the densities above that are too wise to engage in the thought war.

I’m assuming Star Trek would not lie about the appearance of the Orions I’d have to love into not enslaving us; I’m sure the universal muses thrust an accurate description into the minds of those working on that show, right? Right!

“ I usually ask “are we there yet?” when I am bored.”
Well, hopefully my higher self isn’t shaking its… headlights… at me for my current thought patterns. I like to see progress, and once I found out and confirmed it to my satisfaction via various modalities, that we fragments are living in an illusion, while I have my own critique of the mechanics, if the infinite wants to code games for itself, what is the game?

Questioner: You mentioned the word “Empire” in relation to the Orion group. I have thought for some time that the movie Star Wars was somehow an allegory, in part, for what is actually happening. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct in the same way that a simple children’s story is an allegory for physical/philosophical/social complex distortion/understanding.”

So by learning love via suffering and all those mechanics I’m not the biggest fan of… I’m leveling up my spirit in Spiritual Knights of the Old Republic!

Knowing how to help others without abridging their freewill is a trickier mechanic than simply incarnating in a position ripe for power and hoarding influence, money, and illusion wealth and selfish pleasures. Ra states the negative starts off quick but then gets very difficult, or something to that effect. So the KOTOR games are both third density, act cartoonishly evil and you can beat the games with lightning hands alone, easy. But apparently my spirit is more whatever the Jedi that healed stuff with the light side was called, now that’s a puzzle, beating the game as THAT!

Anyway whatever happens to me when I die… I better get to keep my xp points! Yeah, sure positive polarity feels better, but one can gather xp points in the service of love!

As to the thread, if I have to repeat the whole of third grade, I better at least get to pick the school. Because conditions of our society make playing as a Jedi class rather than Sith really, really difficult in comparison.

Are we there yet?

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