Session 31.6: Fertilisation

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In this session, the Law of One contact is saying that some people choose not to have kids:

Questioner: I was wondering if there was some principle behind the fact that a sexual union does not necessarily lead to fertilization. I’m not interested in the chemical or physical principles of it. I’m interested in whether or not there is some metaphysical principle that leads to the couple having a child or not, or is it purely random?

Ra: I am Ra. This is random within certain limits. If an entity has reached the seniority whereby it chooses the basic structure of the life experience, this entity may then choose to incarnate in a physical complex which is not capable of reproduction. Thus we find some entities which have chosen to be unfertile. Other entities, through free will, make use of various devices to insure nonfertility. Except for these conditions, the condition is random.

I think it is quite interesting for a few reasons. In my understanding, from what can be discerned from living on the earth, I cannot think of a legitimate service to others reason not to have kids. Personally I have a disability that makes it unlikely. I have less energy than other people. But still it seems like a kind of pointless life to be living in the second half of it with no kids.

Secondly, one of the things about this is that it is unfalsifiable. It relies on things like “pre incarnative programmed lessons”. Which we simply can’t verify one way or the other.

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A few service to others reasons I can think of for not having biological children are 1. One desires to adopt a child without parents, 2. One decides to dedicate their time and energy to fostering the well-being and evolution of second-density entities (pets), and 3. One pursues the path of the renunciant and commits their life to mendicant service of community.

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There is concept circulating on the internet, that don’t have kids if you are dumb, ill or bad. In itself it means, that if you don’t have kids, you won’t predispose those kids to the bad life you will give them.

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I so agree
Also you may also have chosen to incarnate and experiment entering a life of being single and missing te life of having a family. A myriad of choices, perhaps. But I love your three points.

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Hmmm… I will just put my thoughts here.

I think this quote is probably oversimplified and I suspect, that a fair amount of Law of One statements were subtly modified like this due to, with “transcient” issues the Law of One contact didn’t want. Or inability to articulate issues that would have a very long answer.

When it comes to life programming, there must be different layers for different situation. I.e. a person is experiencing difficulty from a societal problem they must have back up ideas for how their energy responds to bad or good situations.

Also, women control the reproduction area a great deal I think. Since women choose amongst her options and can have a kid whenever she wants. Men have to court and petition women and if they are not accepted, as many are not, then the choice to have a child is no longer in his hands and also, mens success with women is more career and money linked.

So that leads to some questions in regards to mens “preincarnative programming” as such.

Also, this entire area can become pawns in this kind of global light and dark war we are experiencing.

I had a friend who had a lot of mental problems. I considered him a sixth density wanderer and he was really very charged. There was a lot of energy there. He wondered if he was infertile since he slept around without protection and the girls weren’t getting pregnant BUT, since he was a bit of a degenerate, they could have been using protection and not told him.

The Law of One trio didn’t have kids, Carla talked about this. I don’t know how this could have happened. So I won’t look at that any further. Another person I can think of who seems to have a “calling” but has no children is Andrew Huberman. Who seems obvious fifth density to me.

If anyone in the world does finally discover the secret to extending life span I hope it is that guy.

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How do you discern that he is fifth density ?

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I rolled a dice.

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I don’t think that women control the reproductive area a great deal at all. This is only true for the most part in developed countries in the West. The majority of women all over the world, especially in the Middle East, Africa, and some parts of Asia have no control over their bodies whatsoever. Their fathers decide who they will marry, and their husbands decide when and how often they will have sex, thus bearing children. If they are unmarriable and without a father then their brothers control them.There are young girls in Afghanistan right now, who are being married off at the age of nine who have no control whatsoever about anything in life let alone if they will have children. The Caribbean, South and Central America are also highly patriarchal societies where the women are expected to submit to their husbands. Central and South America are also highly Catholic and the women are not encouraged to use birth control or abort their fetuses. I think that the people who are born into countries from western nations, are the people who are developed enough to make their own pre-incarnattive choices.

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Fundamentalist Christian and Mormon women in the United States also have little say over their own bodies and their marriages.

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Not that I agree or know about Mormons, but they are 1.7% of the population of the United States.

Fundamentalist Christians are just like normal woman. Even from the most orthodox church. You can see the research of Pearl Davis for this. Since family court and domestic violence laws are so completely skewed in favour of women via the duluth model (which means, the woman is always right practically. If a policeman shows up to a house and a guys girlfriend has beaten him to a pulp. The policeman arrests the man for domestic violence because under the Duluth model, the woman is always the victim). There is a saying “There are no Christian women in family court”.

Yes, the Middle East definitely has different laws. But I am not expected to go through each exception when I discuss a generality when this entire forum is Western heavy.

This is an obvious basic fact of life. Women have pages and pages, messages of attention. Between the ages of 18-30. 50% of men have not been intimate with a woman in the past year and a lot of those will be virgins. Guys simply don’t have the option in a lot of cases.

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Guys do have the option, they just need to get away from their computers and get out in the real world and actually meet a woman face to face. I am estimating that there are about 350 million adults living in the United States alone. At least 50% of them should be women. A man should have no problem finding a woman if that is what he truly desires. Just like you have to desire to seek the law of one to gain that knowledge, you have to desire to put yourself out there to find the right woman if you want to have a relationship with her. I am not blaming men at all. Relationships are a two-way street. Women also need to put themselves out there if they want to find the right guy. I think people these days are too superficial and they go off of looks on dating sites on-line. Meeting people is hard for both sexes. But if that is something that one truly desires, they may have to go on 100 first dates before they finally find the one that they feel they can be compatible with. Or if someone is doing the online thing to meet people, they need to be honest from the start about what they are looking for. They need to tell the other person I am looking for a serious relationship and then start asking each other the questions to find out if you could be compatible with each other. If the person is not looking for a serious relationship, then move on.

As far as men always being blamed for domestic abuse, and being the ones to be arrested, yes, that was true in the past, but I think in the last 5 to 10 years things have changed. I know this for a fact because I personally know a woman who got into a physical altercation with her husband. She had evidence on the cameras inside her house that he had choked her out and threw her down the stairs. Her son witnessed this and called the police. When the police showed up, they questioned both of them and the husband told them that she was physical with him as well. She denied it and the police said that because it’s one person‘s word against the other, they were both going to be arrested. She then had to prove to the police that she was just verbal with him, and he was physical with her. Because of the video evidence of her being choked unconscious and thrown down the stairs, he was the only one arrested that day. She later refused to press charges against her husband.They have continued to have numerous incidences and every time the police show up, they tell them that they are going to arrest both of them because unless someone can prove that they were physically assaulted, it is now one person‘s word against the other’s. Don’t get me started on why they are even still together. And I also know of a few other women that this has happened to as well. The police don’t want to hear it anymore and they just arrest both parties. This is all in the state of Florida. The police here say that it is one person‘s word against the others’s and both will be arrested if they are called to the home. I personally believe that when domestic abuse happens, the woman tends to be more verballand her abuse towards her partner is mainly emotional and verbal abuse. And I think the man’s abuse is emotional, verbal, and physical. I know that there are women who definitely do get physical with their partners, but because a woman tends to be weaker, she does not generally leave a mark on the Man. The man being of the stronger sex, does often leave a mark on her leading to his arrest. But in general, more men get physical during the abuse than women do which is why the arrest records for domestic abuse are skewed higher towards the male being arrested. This is also evidenced in the prison population in general in that males are arrested far more often than females are for committing crimes. This is not because men are being unfairly targeted, it is because men do commit crimes in higher numbers than women do. Yes, there are women that are capable of committing every single crime that a man commits, but they are in the minority compared to the number of men who commit the same crimes.

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This does not change the fundamental point. Women have to make precisely zero effort to meet guys. They post one hot selfie and their dm’s are full. Your point here was if guys “go on one hundred dates” - I don’t agree with this I have other points against it, but just go with that to not make the analogy too long. Then they accept the women that accept them? Who even knows if that one woman wants children? A lot of women enjoy their time in their twenties travelling and don’t want to settle down. Then their biology overrules them at 30 and they desperately want to settle down. But men know to avoid women once they get to this place.

The amount of single men 18-30 who have not slept with a woman in over a year was about 33% in 2018. It is raising due to women having been given the choice via dating apps. So one guy tends to date multiple women. Or men with money etc.

In our ancestral past, 1 male reproduced ever 17 females. Which is why there are such strong limitations of female sexual autonomy. If enough men do not have access to women then the society fails.

So women are the ones that choose if children are born or not.

Well, police requiring some sort of proof is good. But as you say, last 5-10 years. That is not long. This one case does not change the fact that women are really not controlled who they date and such in any aspect of modern society. I wanted to state women have a lot of legal power.

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As far as the fundamentalist Christian movement in the United States, I am referring mainly to the people who live in the Bible belt and follow the Institute of Basic Life Principles that were given by their founder Bill Gotthard. In this religion, the man is considered the head of the family. The wife must submit to her husband in all matters. The children must submit to their parents. They pretend that their daughters have a say in who they will marry, but it is really the father‘s decision on who they will marry. So the girl is forced to submit to her father her whole life, and then she is expected to submit to her husband for the rest of her life. Because she has been so brainwashed her entire life, she does this humbly. She is told to always stay sweet and to never raise her voice. I know that these people are in a minority in the United States, just like Mormons are, but I was just listing them as an example of women living in the United States today who still do not have a say over their own bodies because they have been so indoctrinated with fear from birth. They are told to never cause dissent amongst the brethren, and if they do fall out side of what is expected of them, they will go to hell. They are so terrified of making any mistake and placing their entire salvation in jeopardy. One of the main tenants of this religion is that all women were born for men to be wives and mothers. That is why Eve was formed from Adam’s rib. She is therefore inferior to him.Children are a blessing from the Lord, and you are to have as many children as God has planned for you. Any form of birth control is not allowed at all. These women on average are giving birth to 10, and upwards of 19 children. People with larger families are given a higher position in the church. They are told to populate the world and get in to politics so that one day their religion will far outnumber everybody else, and they will dominate here in the United States. Sounds like a message from the negative Orion to me. If anyone is interested in knowing more about the IBLP fundamentalist Christian Church, they can watch the documentary, Shiny Happy People. In the fundamentalist Mormon church (FLDS), the Kingston clan, and Warren Jeffs, who is known as the Prophet to his followers have similar beliefs regarding how women are treated in their church as the fundamentalist Christians do. The main difference is they believe in polygamy.

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I agree with you that the majority of women living in modern western societies do have control over who they date and over their own bodies. And I think that it is a great thing that women are now being given the same legal power that men have enjoyed their whole lives. Men and women should be treated equally. A woman should always have the right to vote. A woman should be allowed to own her own property and to open a bank account in her own name. A woman should also be paid the same as a man gets paid for doing the same job. Things have been changing so that women are being given the same rights that men have always had. However, this has not always been the case in the history of the United States and is not the case in many places all over the world today. I do not want to bash men at all. I think every individual should be judged by their own content of their character. It should not matter what race, sex, creed, or religion that you follow. Everyone should be given the same rights in a society that every other group gets to enjoy in that society. I don’t want to see a white man being put down any more than I want to see a black man being put down.

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This is the normal feminist talking points. Firstly, when I was referring to women having more choice than men. I was referring to the current Western world, not outliers, and also, the biological reality. It is biology that women are chased. Women choose the best option out of their suitors to have children with.

I don’t believe that there are fundamentalist Christian sects in the USA. As I said, most orthodox Christian churches are full of modern women. But even if there were, as in the example of Islam. A tyranny and set of rules placed over a section of people that compels certain behaviours, is not relevant to the civilised Western world.

I don’t agree with any of these points here. DEI has forced women into jobs when they do not have the same skills and qualifications as the men they are replacing. Women work less hours than men. In many of the fictitious persistent women wage gap myth stories (which is so persistent, that anyone now repeating them is willfully ignorant or lying), it was proven that when fewer hours were controlled for, they get the same. Also, in America almost every single company is filled with women in HR who decide wages who simply wouldn’t stand for it.

A CEO in a place I used to work at worked consistent fourteen hour days. Women simply are not built for that.

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Think of a company like Ubisoft. That had to admit a lot of women (via DEI policy, about 95% female) to make the video game then, because these women were so obsessed with liberal politics (that they are for some reason, you can’t take the desire to nurture out of women even if you create fake jobs to decrease the birth rate) the entire company failed. Or at least is nearly done. The market wouldn’t accept their black samurai game.

Back before DEI, a game like Tekken 3. With white autist coders with heaps of talent who make level design in their spare time. The games were actually good.

In many jobs standards are relaxed in order to get women into said roles, and these lead to bad consequences. For instance, in policing, fitness standards and various other things were relaxed. Since women simply physically are not men. This lead to a lot more people getting shot because women have less physical control over dangerous situations.

Men work the most dangerous jobs and account for a huge amount of workplace fatalities.
Men are now far behind in University enrolment.
Men getting convicted far more harshly for the same crimes.
Many many men have been made destitute in divorce court.
Male suicide is extremely high, and many think this is correlated with divorce court.

And very very few women are standing up against any of this. In fact, they tend to aggressively socially shame anyone with this perspective (as “incels”). The first domestic violence laws were passed during your famed “patriarchy”. Women, in general, don’t lift a finger on this sort of stuff when the shoe is on the other foot.

And onto bank accounts. Now I am not saying women should not have bank accounts. But they now have 80% of consumer debt. They tend to pay off 3% of their student loans (because they often choose things that are unemployable, like animal studies or some other redirection of their need to nurture), men pay about 33% in the same 10 year period. (After studying to be an engineer or something to keep the water running).

So there might have been some inherent wisdom in that.

We will find out though. Now Trump is getting rid of all the DEI, we will see how things go from here. There is no inherent discrimination against women. Most men are soft, simp like creatures that do anything that women want and always have. The market will do what it does, and if there are women that are useless workers like the Ubisoft women, then in the free market without DEI policies, they will lose out to the Tekken 3 coders. - THAT is equality. A raw meritocracy where the market decides value.

Also, to say men are inherently domineering and just want to enslave women is against the Law of One.

Then if we move into a golden age where the US is far more productive. Then we will all see what a lie that all was.

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As far as women not being built to work 14 hour days, that is simply not true. I work in a hospital and the nurses work 12 1/2 hour shifts. Because they are forced to come in early for the change of shift report and have to leave late due to the change of shift report, they are in actuality there for 13 hours. If they are stuck with a complicated patient, and are unable to leave, they are there for even longer. I myself have worked these 13 hour shifts for many years. A lot of these nurses have children and families and they still show up every day and work their full 13 hour shift. I have seen in the last 15 years a lot of more doctors are female now. These female emergency doctors and female surgeons are working upwards of 16 hour shifts. They also are called to come in and work extra shifts on their day off because a lot of people have left the workforce during the COVID epidemic and hospitals all over America are dealing with short staffing.

As far as women not being qualified to do certain jobs that men do, I absolutely agree with you there. Women do not have the same capabilities as men to be as an example,a navy seal or fulfill other such combat roles. I do however feel that there does need to be women in the police force because the women should be attending to the women in society. If you only allow men in those roles, then that is a recipe for abuse of women. Correction officers should not all be male. There needs to be female correction workers in the women prisons. I would not have a problem saying that females should not be correction officers in a male prison unless they are performing secretarial duties or such because I agree that they cannot get the men under control like a male correction officer could. And this does jeopardize the male officers if they cannot rely on their female partners. When I referred to equality, I am referring to women getting the same treatment as men as long as they are able to meet the same requirements as the man does.

As far as DEI goes, I agree with the basis of it being created because black and brown people and women have been excluded from certain jobs that they are capable of doing. And I think that there are white men in power who do exclude these groups from their ranks. As long as there is a proven fair system, where everyone is hired based on their merit alone, and not to meet a quota due to their race or sex, I would have no problem with the fair merit based system. But it is a fact in America, that racism still exists, and black and brown people are being excluded from certain things. I work in a very diverse workplace, and I listen to people. I overhear conversations or have my own conversations with people from different races. Sometimes white people will think that I am a sympathizer to their white racist beliefs because I am white, and they will say something in front of me because they think that I agree with them. But then when they talk to our fellow black or brown coworkers, they act nice to their face and pretend that they don’t make racist comments behind their back. There are police officers that bring in patients to the hospital all the time. These patients are people that are under police custody and have to have medical clearance before they are taken to jail. I have overheard several police officers make racist remarks so racism is still alive. This racism is alive in the workforce, which is what DEI was created to combat. But if this racism is able to be completely rooted out, then I agree that DEI should not exist.

As far as Donald Trump goes, I believe that he is creating America to be a service to self country. I even find it ironic that he is orange from head to toe, which is likened to the orange ray energy center, and orange ray blockages. Just like everybody in Germany loved Hitler in the 1930s because he was doing great things for the German economy, I think that history will prove Donald Trump to be the same way. He may do things that people think are great for them in the beginning, but ultimately, he only cares about himself. We will not enter a golden age with Donald Trump, we are going into a downward spiral with him that history will show. I absolutely hope that I am completely wrong about Donald Trump, and that he surprises me and does not run America into the ground.

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I notice this was ignored and because it was ignored, it was confirmed:

Did you know when globalists tried to bring in feminism, which was extremely top down. Their biggest opposition was the regular grassroots women called the anti suffragettes. They had very good arguments against women getting the vote.

Yes, because nursing is caring for people. It is mostly caring and then a lot of clinical knowledge. Being a CEO of a company is JUST technical stuff. It is spreadsheets all day. In general, women when subjected to those kinds of roles, as in the example of female lawyers, will burn out and feel that there is something “more” they are missing. They can’t live in the emotionless void that kind of work entails. But they want the status of being CEO so they support DEI policies. So DEI puts them in those positions and the company suffers.

This is the theory but it is not the practice. The second this actually happens women cry that they are being discriminated against, which is why the policing fitness standards and other such things are then relaxed. Otherwise, these problems wouldn’t be happening anyway. And all feminists say this. ALL of them say they are looking for fairness. Then when you bring up information and statistics that they are a female supremacist movement. They ignore it.

Because it is a lie.

Right, so you are saying that the police officers coming in are real world men that have had to deal with violent criminals and they have a poor opinion of certain races. Who according to FBI crime data cause a significant amount more crime than average. But it hurts your feelings so its racist.

“DEI was created to combat”… You don’t know that as you didn’t design the policy. In the last jobs report from the outgoing Biden administration. There were something like 8,000 jobs going to Americans and 1,000,000 going to immigrants. So what you are basically saying is that you support the discrimination against your own countrymen. And ignorance is no excuse here. The fact you perhaps “didn’t know” about this jobs report, is the result of you not looking into this side of the argument, and you have had many years of exposure to it, so you have consciously rejected it.

But the thing that strikes me. The thing that has got me thinking in this entire conversation. Is how cookie cutter every womans opinion is on precisely these matters. Of course there are some actual right wingers. But the liberal is strong and amongst the liberals. They all seem to have precisely the same thoughts. It is the same. It is just the same. I could substitute another woman here and it would just be exactly the same; it is not the same with some small differences it is EXACTLY THE SAME. Whether 16 or 60. I have had these conversations in real life with women. This vague, determination to a spiritual egalitarianism (“equality”) and no research at all.

This is from a guy that is a 30 year old, 8 figures net worth, handsome Jew who posted in a forum recently. It says what it say. Listening to womens “political feelings” and not “political thoughts”.

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It is an interesting thing because it shows the scale of the change that will happen when significant enough catalyst is applied that effects these beliefs. What that would look like?

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#1 as far as me ignoring the comments about labeling people as incels, and thus confirming it to be true, I was just too tired last night to address every issue and thus only addressed the ones that struck me the most. I do have a problem with men being unfairly treated in divorce court. I have a problem when men are forced to pay so much money out in child support that it doesn’t even leave them with enough money to pay for their own housing and basic necessities. I care very deeply about men who commit suicide in higher numbers and especially from the veteran community. My brother is an army vet who served in the recent war in Iraq. He has been traumatized by what he saw, and what he was forced to do. Five of his close army buddies have already committed suicide. He is the only one left of his close group of friends. All of those points that you mentioned about the men I am disturbed by and wish it would change. The only one that I am not bothered by as much is about university rates among men dropping. I believe that school children in America (boys and girls) have the exact same opportunities and if the boys are not choosing to attend university as much as the girls are, then that is their own fault. I also don’t believe that everyone needs to go to college or to a university for higher learning. I think that a lot of people would benefit from going to trade school. However, most trade school jobs are geared more towards employment opportunities that only men are interested in. You are right that women love to enter jobs in the care field. Women are just not interested in becoming electricians, plumbers, AC repairman, etc. The lower university rates may be reflecting that more men are not going to universities because they are entering trade school jobs. I don’t know this for a fact because I have never looked into it.
#2 As far as witnessing firsthand police officers being racist,I stand by this. I am going to say a comment that I hate to say because it disgusts me but this is the type of racist comment that I am referring to. A police officer will be standing outside the room because some sort of procedure is happening inside and the room is not big enough for everyone to be inside of it. And the police officer will comment to his fellow officer who has just come up to the scene, and within earshot of other people, he will make the remark that this man is a monkey and should be sent back to the jungle. I don’t care how awful a person treats you, you still do not denigrate another human being and refer to a person of a particular race as a monkey. I have seen drunk white men who get belligerent and abusive with their language who are also under police custody, and the officer does not refer to them as a monkey. So yes, these types of racist comments do hurt my feelings because it hurts me to know that other people in society are treated this way. I have an idealistic view of the world in which I wish everyone in the world lived. I don’t care if you are from Haiti, from Vietnam, from Iran, from Mexico, from the state of Georgia, or from the state of California, I want every single person to be treated with the same dignity. If someone of a particular race is rude to you, or does not act by the same rules, I don’t think that we need to resort to violent acts towards them. Two wrongs do not make a right. I have been cursed out by patients more times than I can count. I have had overt and lewd sexual comments made to me, I have been slapped, scratched, attempted to be bitten, attempted to be punched, grabbed at, and spit at. But I have never once resorted to cursing back at the patient or mistreating them afterwards because of their treatment towards me. I am professional at all times and I expect police officers to do the same. They chose that line of work where they know that they are going to deal with the worst of society on a daily basis. If they can’t handle it, then they need to find a different job.
#3 As far as all of your comments about the history of feminism, and DEI, I will admit that I do not care enough to fact check you on them. You could be absolutely right on your facts, but unless I do my own research and fact check it for myself, then I will not believe it. But I am concerned with other things and my interest lies in different areas and so I am not going to fact check it. If you want to call it willfull ignorance, then that is what it is. But there are so many issues in this world to be concerned with, that I do not have the time or the energy to look into every single one of them and have an educated opinion on all of them.
#4 I think it would be a helpful exercise for you to imagine that you are a woman living in today’s world. Forget that you are a man and completely immerse yourself in the thought that you are a woman with all of her hormones, thoughts, and feelings running through her. Try to imagine how you would feel about every facet of your life if you were a woman. How would you approach dating and trying to meet a decent man from her point of view. It is a fact that women do operate off of their feelings and emotions.
#5 I don’t believe that women control the relationship and that all men will do anything for them. I think it is closer to 60-40. There are alpha males out there who absolutely control and dominate their females. They put them down so much that the woman is left with no self-esteem. I do think that the woman is just as much at fault for allowing this to happen. She should not jump into a relationship so quickly that she allows the other person to dominate her. The red flags are usually always there if you choose to see them. The women that I feel sorry for with falling into this type of trap are the ones who have been sexually and emotionally abused since childhood. When they grow up to be adults, they expect people to always treat them this way, so they don’t have a problem with a man treating them this way because they are just looking for some form of love. I also know several women who are just as controlling and manipulative, and sometimes even more so. These alpha females will emasculate their partner and humiliate him on a daily basis. They force him to hand over his paycheck as soon as he gets it, while they sometimes do or don’t have a job themselves. They treat him like a child and control his every movement in and out of the house. He is not allowed to have any friends of his own, and the only friend he can have is his wife or those that she approves of. In the beginning of the relationship, these women tend to be super sweet and loving. The man feels like he has finally found someone who loves him and so he slowly agrees to all of her controlling ways over him. These men don’t want to leave because they don’t think that they will ever find another woman who will love them, and at least, they falsely think, that their woman does love them. And then there are other men who find themselves in relationships where it seems like they are always giving more to the woman than she is giving back to them. These women will withhold sex, and demand presents and jewelry In order to get what they want. These women know what their men want, and so they are using every manipulative idea that they can think of in order to get what they also want out of the relationship. This is why every couple needs to fully vet their partner and not jump into things. Put yourself in a lot of situations when you are dating so that you can see how that person will react. Do not jump into a situation quickly where you are living together, have children together, or are relying on them for your basic needs until you fully know that person. It is your own fault for not doing your own homework. And I am not referring to you personally here, I am referring to “you” as being any general person. Of course, there are the outliers who are psychopaths, who are able to completely hide their true self from another person until it is too late for them to see it. I think most people can see all of the red flags early on, they just choose to ignore it or think that they can eventually change that person.
#6 I think that I have fully gotten off topic here since this whole forum is supposed to be about the law of one. And at this point, the only way it is related to the law of one is in how selves are treating other selves, so I will just end all of my comments here. Well, maybe one last comment, I do notice that you post a lot of topics on this forum and I appreciate all of these topics that you bring up. Knowledge sharing is great and I appreciate that you are constantly thinking about new topics of discussion and like to share your ideas with other people.

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Great post Harmony.
I think in fact your post fully addresses the Law of One as it refers to choice. Every choice we make is important, and so is the choice to get into a relationship.
Thank you. :kissing_heart:

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It took me a few minutes to get out of “fight mode” to respond to this.

I think that this politics stuff is actually very closely related to the Law of One in fact. It is the technical rules surrounding politics and misrepresented “facts” that lead to a lot of real world “distortions” between people. I.e. racism and reasons people might have for it. The history of feminism. These things change a lot about how we relate in real life.

I will give an example. I remember in the UK I was on facebook groups back around the time that “UKIP” was still a thing. There was a woman that was putting really racist stuff on this group. Most people in these groups are not racist, but every so often you see something really nasty from someone that really takes that stuff seriously. Anyway, eventually the story came out. The musllims in her area had started a sex trafficking ring and were turning the town into a crime ridden hell hole. I relaxed a lot more after that.

I will skip over answering your question/ thoughts directly. I will bring in an example of mine to illustrate something about gender dynamics in my own life. I think it will say more of what is relevant.

This is the basis of the red pill. It is it’s theoretical root. This one graph is a big thing that explains the world. Important to note is that women uniformly refuse to see this often:

women and men 1955 to now
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What it basically says, as is the pattern with my parents and my half sisters parents relationship as well. Is that a lot of women sleep around a lot in their twenties with the top tier guys shown. What you would call the “alphas” - that have so many options they usually go through these girls quickly. “Pump and dump” so to speak. Then once their twenties are over, they try and find a guy to settle down with in their thirties. But the guys they can get in their thirties are not at all the same guys that are available to them in their twenties.

I have seen sets of tweets from women saying “Women don’t want to have to settle down, it’s a boring slave existence” in their twenties. Then 5-10 years later “Hook up culture is disgusting and I hate that I ever engaged in it”.

The point being, going to your point number four now. I have a half sister. She is attractive and in her twenties. She is the kind of person I prefer to not have to deal with to be honest because she is deeply disrespectful. Just cancels things out of nowhere and makes no effort to maintain the relationship.

Speaking to her only briefly I know though that she has this mindset. She has had the option of literal millionaires. But she really likes being incrediby flaky and enjoying the status she has.

So what is going to happen? She simply doesn’t believe emotionally life will ever change. The world, seeming as much biology as propaganda, does a lot to keep women ignorant of a lot of truths. Men don’t come up to them and say, “damn, you are really hot, my heart rate goes up by 10bpm when I am in your presence, I want to breathe in your fertility and my desire has overtaken my rational faculties”. No, they say “Wow, your opinions and such are very interesting”.

A lot of women think they are more interesting than they are for this kind of reason. So they are utterly unprepared when the attention starts to trail off as they age. For instance, it probably would never happen, but she is not prepared for a future where she would have some need of me and having behaved with disrespect, probably due to the attention she gets, has not served her well.

She is also not prepared for not having the attention of literal millionaires that she currently doesn’t particularly appreciate. Also, and this is important. In the past women did have men to settle down with in their thirties. But now men are vicious, vicious against that. So when I go on red pill content and see them talking down 304’s I know that if this were the case, my half sister will be subjected to that.

So, this feeling I have towards her is the root of this patriarchal tradition you’re mainstream thought has taught you to dislike. But is it really controlling in an unloving manner?

I know, that she doesn’t know, that the emotional commitment she has that everything will work out and things won’t change isn’t actually true. I know what men are like and this dynamic exactly. I also know that men now have sayings such as “Women give as little of their youth and fertility to their husbands”. That the very good suitors she currently has, she could very well pay deeply for not taking them seriously.

She doesn’t have family to fall back on. Her ability to find a partner is really important for her to not stay at the lower classes.

In this instance, even though I can’t exercise this power. I am in the position in a sense of “patriarch”. I want to control her in a sense, sit down with her and make sure she understands these realities. That she does not want to look at as they are “bad vibes”.

If I did that and she listened she might settle down with a millionaire and escape the life she is heading down. I would be happy to never see her again if this was the case as he probably would not want to relate to me. But the path she is headed down since she has the ‘freedom’ and encouragement from “friends” to be feminist and progressive, is one of likely misery.

Unless she gets lucky, which is rare. She will flutter around in the shallow waters, jumping from relationship to relationship to enjoy the first few years of courting. Then start to feel real panic when she gets to say, late twenties, and settles down with a guy, (or in modern days with the red pill, perhaps not). Either way bitterly regretting not taking her options seriously in her twenties and the life she could have had.

So, since this perspective sounds like it is outside your experience. I thought it might help you to see where I am coming from. I am not saying you should agree but I am saying that this is the point of the traditions where the men controlled the women a great deal. Is it control? If I was to speak to my sister I would not say that she had to marry so on so. But I would say this is what might happen if you do what you are doing. This is your potential future. I get if you are not in love with the rich guy and that was just a “sleeper” or “situationship”. Maybe not that one. But you should take your life damn seriously and attempt to move up in social status by marrying and having children young.

I would say that a lot of the motivation in those patriarchy’s you talked about, from the men, is more loving than you are perceiving. Mens love and womens love is not precisely the same.

Also, one thing I just thought to add here. These traditions didn’t just “control” women. In the Wild West, in the brief period between the freedom first enjoyed and when the Federal government moved in. About 30% of weddings were shotgun weddings (and sometimes that meant a literal shotgun at the wedding). If you get the girl pregnant in the Wild West, you had to get married. I think a lot of girls today would appreciate that.