This is really where my focus is right now, actually. Ra says always begin and end in the Creator, not technique. Have faith, admit one’s helplessness, and be ruthlessly honest about the self. However, there are clearly techniques! There are skills that make a difference. Where is the balance between skill and faith?
We may be asking a question about this at our first channeling session in 6 months or so tomorrow in Richmond.
I would offer this thought. Faith is a faculty of inner knowing, based not on comparison, but arising from deep memories of unity. Skills are tools for doing work, be they used in the service of love or of indulgence.
The “balance” lies in the phrase, “I seek in order to serve.” That is, it is the work which the tools are meant to expedite which is important, not the tools themselves.
Clearly.
Point taken.
Have you ever felt the sanctity of a holy place? Or the creepiness of a former deadly crime scene? Have you felt the collective dread, say, after the World Trade Center collapsed? I’ll bet you have.
This level of perception can be cultivated and, ahem, refined.
Yes, you can. If it interests you, just do it slowly over time. In fact, you already are, as you mentioned a bias towards honesty. In a simple sense, that sums it up. The hard part, I dare say, is being honest about the things you don’t want to know about. This requires courage as well as faith. And this, in my experience, is where most of us get bagged down.
I just want to add, @Phoenix, that one effect of balancing love with power could be learning lessons of self acceptance and self love, and this could possibly help lift an immense burden off your back. But you probably already know this.
I wasn’t going to continue any further, because to me, you seemed happy with your own answer here. But, since you tagged me again, I assume you wanted or at least would be fine with additional comment on this.
My life isn’t really much to do with the balancing of love and power. In my view. It is in a vague, tangential, natural way, but not in the real life terms that the sixth density does.
On a side note I was thinking the other day how the people I have identified as sixth density people that I have known have been some of the flat out maddest people I have ever met. I don’t know if anyone holds this idea, but the idea they are on a level above us is flatly wrong. One was my ex best friend, massive muscly guy, constant joy, constant energy to a huge extent (a rotation of three different girls in a week). Just so incredibly crazy. A lot of drugs. Not averse to violence. Gets strange ideas and messages people with strange things. Being considered for a diagnosis of bipolar.
Another girl that seemed sixth to me. Massive [edit, Massive-ly as in massively emotional. She had a perfect figure], deeply emotional person. Pretty sure should have had a borderline diagnosis as she herself commented. Was just this massive tangle of unbelievable neuroticness. Not able to sleep. Incredible anger. Killed herself.
The former is immature power and the latter is immature love. I know, and have seen modelled from characters on the internet, real adult versions of both that are endlessly positive of course. Just do the real work they are here to do and help a lot of people daily. The ‘skilled nurse’ or whatever.
The balancing of love and power, at least in how I’ve seen it done from the sixth density. Is … "no f’n joke’.
What we are talking about here is an exploration of wisdom. Power people don’t talk about things that much, they just go out and do things.
Secondly, I just thought I would mention. I am thinking things through a lot recently. My energy field is keyed to producing wisdom. There is some variance as to where that wisdom gets produced. Like, posting on here or playing music, as a possible example. But not a lot of variance in truth, it doesn’t matter what I do I will probably still get insights into the human design chart. That is my “channel”.
I have had an insight recently. I feel it to be a powerful insight, but I know that, in general, the world is not that interested in these insights. It is strange, it puts me in the position of constantly “potentiating” information, but not having anywhere to explain it. I feel that having low status does in fact have benefits. There are a lot of things I don’t want to do and people I don’t want to spend time around. There is a lot of benefit I get from solitude. But not being able to express the wisdom I think is a drawback.
Recently, I have figured that there are important elements in a chart. One being the conscious north node here, one being the unconscious, and the other being an undefineable north node that is what might be called the spirits north node.
Everyone’s “spirit” north node is what they are learning, then the conscious and unconscious are the two missing elements. So here, Carla has a spiritual North node of Love. She then has a wisdom north node (Gate 4.5. very cerebral, this accounts for her skepticism on some things, despite being in the new age by trade that is not always good with skepticism) and a power North node (gate 7, the energy of leadership, which is responsible for her leadership status in llresearch).
Of note in Carla’s chart is that she stated in book 5 that she felt she had worked on her spiritual gifts and neglected her animal self. We can clearly see this here in a split definition.
What I’m saying is that these things can easily be plotted and shown as to how they work through a persons life.
I would normally ask you how you are doing with the love and power balancing, but I know from experience that on this forum people do not like that kind of line of questioning. Very often I have started threads with ‘how do you experience’ this kind of questions but people do not answer that and inevitably take the thread in their own direction. I wanted to explain so that doesn’t seem rude.
It’s certainly a fair question, and one with many answers on my part.
On a simple level, I’ve wasted a lot time holding people to their own standards or correcting them when they might purport to be knowledgeable. Most pointedly, I will hold people in authority to account for their actions, all of this with little regard for the concerns of their personality. I feel the principal is more important than the relationship much of the time.
I once asked a clairvoyant about this, and she said that I had been in a position of authority and had made some very bad decisions, in part because no one dared to show me where I was screwing up.
Over time, I’ve learned that people are more fragile that I think they are, and that kindness is a very important element in discourse. This, in turn, has helped me become more kindly towards myself. I continue to work on this in various ways because I know that I will be far happier than I am now when I become much more loving towards my own self. So, I’m wise enough to know this but, as yet, am only learning to be loving enough to practice it with skill and consistency.
This thread reminds me of a couple of quotes from the ‘Surfing change’ track I published a while back,
Characters of life
are polished through the ages.
Stumbling and tumbling,
finding our place in stages.
Shaped by needs
in body and soul,
Some make perfect sense
others puzzle, until we foldSome needs make perfect sense
others puzzle, until we fold
every color, shade of white
every individual,
prism for inspirations light
in appropriate conditions
as life unfolds,
we blossom in this world
with a heart of goldblossom in this world,
with a heart of gold
Thanks for that, definitely needed context for a productive discussion.
Yes, I understand what you mean here. I have not spent a lot of time thinking about how to communicate with ‘fragile’ people. But I understand what you mean. A lot of people that take an authoritarian stance are seemingly incapable of receiving pushback. I say seemingly, because we can never really know, and if they did realise they were completely wrong on something it might just be more convenient to play the victim. But it is definitely sometimes real. BPD girl I described in the last post wanted to hold political viewpoints and not have them challenged.
There’s also a bit of a wheat and the tares thing going on there in my perception. A lot of relatively positive people accept mainstream authoritarian viewpoints. Then a lot of others use those viewpoints to back up seriously unpleasant beliefs and real life behaviours. It’s not particularly clear which is which I think often.
One of the things that has become big for me recently as a workable strategy is ‘faith’. I received unbelievable, and I mean unbelievable synchronicity to back up the “Q” perspective. (I am an honorary “Q- tard”). I still have the relevant screenshot. But one of the things it means, this worldview, is that there will come a time in the future where a lot of things will become publicly known. Such as the presence of negative ET’s, and other things more intimately connected to our everyday lives. When that happens I wonder what will happen to all these “fragile authoritarians”?
Also, just another point, not really directed at you per sey. I have been thinking of the channeling of this thread. It strikes me that prayer in almost all cases, unless very specifically worded otherwise, is as the contact has described here.
I have just reworked a lot of my prayers. I have a half sister that is a ‘modern woman’. In order to route around the very complex feelings involved. Childhood stuff, her (perceived) disrespect, vulnerability, own choices, never knowing which way she’s gonna go etc. Properly wording a prayer is extremely helpful. It is effectively what is being described in this excerpt.
It is another thing I use AI for. I cannot always word my own prayers I tend to change my mind on what I want from it after a short while, I have one page of my own and one from and LLM. The way Grok phrases things tends to hit all the right notes, and avoid any of the wrong ones, and I rarely go back to it. This from Grok:
Teach me to walk with kindness, knowing your hands hold us both, in our separate paths, yet ever near.
These kind of statements definitely can route around approving of the relevant persons behaviour and/ or choices.
Definitely have (well not the former crime scene–that I know of). That’s great advice and a good starting point for me for sure. Not sure why I hadn’t thought of it in that way before. I think of something like my experience of what Catholics call the Real Presence. I spent many hours alone and present in a holy place and below the surface emotions of those moments I can recall a kind of steady-state, soul-expanding hum.
Thank you for pointing out the sign post I overlooked:)
Yes, true for me. I think I labeled it as a desire for safety and security, but definitely a form of control at the end of the day.
Thank you for the invitation. I’ll mark it on my calendar and reach out for more info as the date gets closer.
That sounds wonderful, Melissa.
One further comment, if you have a bias towards efficiency in your working. Doing this as a general experience is very helpful. At a point where you want to move more deeply into it, begin to filter out the extraneous observations and experiences, and allow your awareness to move to where you sense the love most purely. This will conduce to a deeper experience of the consciousness of love which, of course, is what we all seek. It’s another term for the One Creator.
And, naturally, you can do this at home as well. Personally, I still find a week visit to a sacred place to be quite helpful.
Best wishes, indeed.
I came across this excerpt which touches on this topic.
The self then is seen as personality, with characteristics of the personality, with a certain kind of mental ability, with certain culturally conditioned and educated biases, with certain physical work that is done, with certain hobbies and interests and the whole gamut of human identity.
However, each who has awakened spiritually knows well that that is only the surface of self and all of society and its biases, that all of the social arrangements, economic plans and schemes for attaining and maintaining comfort and health and happiness do not identify the self or exhaust its beingness. As spiritual seekers move more and more into consideration of the self as a spiritual being there grows an awareness that the self within is not even a person, that the personality is truly a shell but that what it holds is infinite. There is no bottom to the roots of consciousness. The roots move into infinity. There is no limitation upon the self, the “I” that lives within, and that is one key that the one known as Jesus of Nazareth offers: the redefinition of self, that movement from the “I” of the personality to the “I” of “When you hear me speak, you hear not me but the Father who sent me.” For each of us was sent into this illusion. Each of us, indeed, has sent itself into the illusion to serve as the lighthouse for the source of light moving into the Earth plane. It is not that the “I” of self has the fuel to burn an infinite light eternally. Rather, the spiritually awakened self becomes more and more aware that the “I” that is truly the self is simply moving through the vehicle of personality in infinite energy. What the “I” of personality may do to express the true “I-ness” of the Creator within is to allow and bless the energy that moves through the being. For each of you is as a receiver and a sender of energy. Each of you receives infinite light and love in a steady and continual basis, both from the Earth energy itself moving up through the vehicle and from those sources of inspiration which each calls to herself from time to time that move down into the self from above.
All of this energy can be held, or it can be allowed to flow. And each serves by allowing that energy to flow through with as little distortion as possible. And not simply allowing but blessing it on its way. Each has outer gifts, and these gifts are there for each to share. However, the one known as Jesus is that perfect example of one who laid all gifts before the Creator and simply said, “What is your will for me?”
Later, referring to the challenging process…
This instrument asks us, mentally, and we repeat it that we may answer for each of you, “How can you say that Jesus is Lord if you say that Jesus can be replaced with another of the same consciousness?” and we say to you that it is our experience that selfhood is far less personal than it seems within third density. It is a matter of breadth of experience, of seeing into the illusion which within your incarnational experiences is such a perfect and complete illusion. Jesus, indeed, is Lord. Christ, indeed, is the highest and most pure and perfect love, that love that destroys only to transform, that kills only to raise and move onward. Whereever we see the Christ within incarnation that consciousness held by that entity is Lord. One recognizes it as one would recognize an oak tree or a brand of food in your marketplace. It is distinctive. It is perfect of its own kind. And it is a deeply impersonal, infinitely true consciousness in metaphysical location of quality and essence that transcends personality and reidentifies the individual as love.
This state of consciousness lies within your awareness even in incarnation, in potentiation, and the thirst for that state of consciousness draws you onward.
Thank you for this addition.
To be clear, I am not denying the reality of the deeper self or placing primacy on the personality. I can see the personality clearly functions as a tool for the work we do here. I suppose the thread I am specifically pulling on is this “distinctness” mentioned that is a part of the impersonal self. It seems to me that that distinctness partially forms with the aid of the personality within the illusion–how we orient, informs the information we receive, process and integrate. And I think a part of that orientation lingers or grafts onto the deeper self.
I’m sure with a more time and marination what I am looking at or trying to define will come into focus. It is a part of the mystery that pulls me in. Maybe I’m being blinded by the Leonian aspects of this particular personality I inhabit:).
I think you’re on to something Melissa. Hold on to what feels true and ask for guidance in meditation. If this personality—however astrologically oriented 
—can learn to bend as the reed in the wind, I think we’ll find that distinctness plays perfectly with the unity in ways we don’t usually consider.
Yes.
One little point to toss into the mix is this. A characteristic of manifestation (the realm of the outward looking personality) is that we eventually become separated from everything we care about, except those things which are eternal. So, the “color” of the outward looking personality is created by that seeking for the imperishable within the context of illusory permanence. Methinks this is where the personality begins to tune the soul stream. That is, that seeking exercises the soul in a way that reshapes or realigns it slightly.
Wow, what could be more beautiful than that?
