What is meant by "learn to become each archetype"?

For me there is no ‘goal’ at the moment, because my study of the archetypal mind is coming along at a good pace. In the human design as I have summarised, there is so much information that it is easier to compare something to another thing. There is so much to compare all the time that once a fair bit of the system is understood. The rest of the process is automatic.

So one of the thoughts I have been having recently is about Prometheus and the several different planets I have in Promethean themes hexagrams (ref the earlier chart). The top right of the chart, Hades and Prometheus, has the bottom trigrams as Heaven and the top as follows:- Heaven, Lake, Fire, Thunder, Air, Water, Mountain, Earth. Half of the chart has that pattern and on the second half they are reversed.

So hexagram 5 which is something I am experiencing in a very grounded way. Is Lower trigram Heaven and Upper Trigram Water. The reason this is a Promethean point is that it is about cycles. A positive higher and masculine thing (lower trigram), has been pointed in the direction of water which has made it patience and inner cycles and such.

The reason this is Promethean is that someone that is aware of their own inner cycles might have this knowledge and the world isn’t necessarily going to like it or agree. To truly know ones own cycles means these won’t necessarily move in concert with others. The reason the entire thing is Promethean, Is because Prometheus is the result of the “heaven” made manifest on earth.

The reason I bring this up is that it is relevant to the point of the intuitive vs. the rational. When I looked into the tarot and studied it from a Law of One perspective. I realised that my tendency towards a more rational approach was a barrier because you really need an inherent emotion to understand the tarot as there is simply not enough information. My mind is intensely rational (if that is the best descriptor) and I feel comfortable being that person. I am distinctly off other people often since I don’t have a great deal of emotional connection with others sometimes, due to this tendency.

But with the incredible amount of information I just described. At the very end of that process I can find an emotional connection. With enough of a background, with enough context and substance I do start to pierce the tendency to look at things very rationally and start to be able to feel my way through a bit.

I will be living alone for the next seven days or so. When this happened before is when I studied the archetypes before, and made a lot of insights into the tarot. I try and keep my study of such things away from other people since there was a line in the Law of One that said don’t practice the archetypes around other people since free will can be seriously abridged.

I might be able to experiment with putting on ‘Hades’, ‘Lakshmi’, ‘Harmonia’ etc. Over the next few days and actually begin investigations into these practices in earnest.

Hmm, it is reminiscent of what you quote in that both passages put weight on the need for purity of being during such explorations.

Discussing these things is cumbersome because we are unconscious of both the energy bodies and the deep mind. And yet, “geographically,” if you will, they are not co-located, so far as the way the Confederation folk use the terms, so far as I can perceive. A body (for instance, the causal body) is a vehicle for consciousness or a particular modality of consciousness for an individual. The deep mind, on the other hand, is a mass-created strange land containing progressively deeper levels of group consciousness, until opening up to the ground of consciousness itself.

This passage speaks to the first.

As you think of yourself, you think of your physical body with your eyes, your nose, your mouth, the way that your body is, how much it weighs, what color the hair is, what kind of texture your skin has, and so forth. These are the considerations which come to your mind when you think of who you are.

In fact, there is a part of your body which exists in time/space. It is the metaphysical or the time/space portion of your physical body. In some systems of philosophy it is called the chakra system. In others it might be called the electrical body. There are many names, in fact, if one examines the terms used in religions and systems of spiritual seeking for this unseen but causal body. It is, shall we say, the repository of the default settings for the body which was born into incarnation at your birth. The chakra-[body] or the electrical-body contains the ideal or perfect system settings for your entire body system. These settings exist in the memory in each of your chakras.

Interesting, so it seems this is the body that healers work with. Since it is “repository of the default settings for the body”

The body is the instrument for consciousness and the archetypical mind is one of the homes of consciousness. The cosmic mind of the Primal Logos being the ultimate Home of Consciousness. So that is why it is geographical in nature. Since you have your subconscious mind, the planetary/racial mass mind, and the Infinite mind. You have to travel these hierarchies in order to contact intelligent infinity.

It is strange because it contains other planetary minds which are difficult to explain in our language. The Infinite Mind is a repository I believe of all Creation. It is completely possible it contains experiences of the Creator beyond mind/body/spirit complexes.

And then the Spirit is Infinite but is configured or reflects the state of your current mind and body.

There are sessions that say this is so, but only in the healer is capable of working at that level. Work at lower levels is less efficacious.

Who, exactly, is the “you” in your statement? Is the everyday conscious mind capable of doing this? If not, what “you” might be so?

Thinking about this, I feel I should add on that I am not holding an answer behind my back and hoping you will guess it. I just thought this made an interesting query.

I do not study with the Rider Waite deck.
If I recall, I said that one deck will resonate with one person while not at all resonating with another. I do not resonate with the Egyptian deck at all. It does not mean this deck is at fault or I am at fault, it means my subconscious mind resonates with the images that comes from my School system which has used the Rider Waite images but not it’s total system of thought.

I’m not entirely sure, I would use the term Soul. But I have not heard that term used in the Ra material often.

I would think in this instance it would be your Higher Self which is capable of doing this work. Of becoming an Archetype or fully embodying it. Since that is our ultimate Self before we return to the Creator. In everyday life it is your Higher Self which is capable of being pure, since it has access to all our lives and has gone beyond polarity and learned all its lessons. From this vantage point it is able to discern the appropriate response to a situation in the present moment that would lead to further polarization along your path. Balancing intuition and intellect could allow a mind/body/spirit complex to know in the present moment what decision its Higher Self is intuiting to make and would lead to polarization. However, it can only guide.

“It means that you have hollowed yourself with enough clarity, honesty and purity that you have made room within the dedication of your seeking for your experience to be filled with the resonance that moves from finity to infinity, from specificity or locality to universality or non-locality.” This implies to me essentially becoming your Higher Self in the moment or attempting to invoke it. Connecting to our deepest Self, which is the most wise allows oneself to know or atleast attempt at navigating the hierarchies and geography of the deep minds. Ra did say they used tarot on Venus to develop their magical personality.

However, I feel I may have this backwards lol

I’m guessing that Prof. Elkins didn’t have a lot of interest in that area, therefore the usage of the term is limited. This is one instance that caught my eye, from 54.15.

Each energy may be activated without the beauty that is possible through the disciplines and appreciations of personal energies or what you might call the deeper personality or soul identity.

I would suggest that, in the way you are intending, the better term would be “soul complex.” This is the element of soul which learns about its self and its ways in the incarnation just as the personality does.

True, but are we here to become our Higher Selves? What would be the point of that when our Higher Selves already serve that function?

In order to contact so called intelligent infinity, our conscious mind must be alert, or else we would know we were doing it. But the conscious mind can’t go there simply by volition. I think you put your finger on it when referring to hollowing ourselves out with clarity, honesty, purity and dedication of seeking. This allows the spirit complex some room to join us in the moment, each moment of our creation.

Well, in reference to that quote in session 5 and geography of the inner minds and such. Do you find this specifically relevant to your path?

I don’t feel I am someone that is naturally a healer. Even though I liked the idea and fantasized about it when I was younger. As I alluded to in previous posts my lack of “emotional empathy” with others, and my tendency towards solitude in general, I think means it is unlikely that I will become a healer. I have no particular emotional energy that allows me to care for others. I can do nice things for others from a very logical place. But there is no heart chakra type of stuff there.

I do actually focus on healing for myself though. I do energy work or work with a pyramid sometimes, and I have a lot of knowledge about various things gained from having bad health. If I gained a job and/ or disposable income, I would likely prioritise diet and supplements etc.

But I strongly doubt this will ever be a discipline that is turned towards helping others. I can pray and help others, I have done that. But as far as energy work goes and the path of a healer I just don’t think I am that person and don’t think it is possible for me to energy heal others on a service to others path.

I think my deal here is to do music, and to use/ apply, have insight into, and communicate spiritual information/ spiritual teachings. There may be elements of my talents and such as yet not understood and used.

The reason I bring that up is to explain that on my path I don’t think I am doing any of these steps. I mean, the second stage seems kind of universal that everyone would do. Maybe the third.

But when the idea of ‘geography’ is brought in to me that has a Shamanic understanding to it. I feel I am getting to the point now where my dreams are starting to deepen and are feeling a bit different. I have noticed with NoFap, which I have only done a little. That I have more grounded dreams. Dreams that are more intent on convincing me they are reality and that feel more real, and that are longer.

On my sixth year of dream interpretation. I have put together a model of psychology that has six sections to it. Four of them are our Good light, Bad light, Good darkness, Bad darkness. So the bad light are negative side effects of the good light, so things like perhaps having too high standards. The bad darkness are dark things that cannot be changed. Like health issues and how people will perhaps subconsciously respond to someone different due to those. The good darkness is your classic psychotherapy sorts of paradigms. Knowledge of childhood influences etc.

I am behind on interpretation, haven’t done any for quite a while now because I am still trying to apply my fifth set of interpretation. My life is chaos it is hard to get things in order. I will sort my life out, apply the fifth sets of interpretations, and then continue on with the sixth.

Are you intending on travelling the path of a healer and practically using the understandings of this LoO quote?

Well said!

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I work with what I have. I will say that the intellect has one real advantage in spiritual seeking: it can positively exhaust the seeker because of how discretely it meters out its energy. So the intellect gives me walls, traction, boundedness that then helps me see the negative space of intuition and appreciate it better on its own terms, instead of simply as “that other thing one does”. I can feel into it almost in a “via negativa” (apophatic) manner.

But my heart opening is a work in progress, coming soon.

That’s a smaller space than I’m able to squeeze myself into, I’m afraid, so I cannot join you there. But I can offer this perspective.

L/Leema

Let us then swim into the sea of intuition. My friends, you will find that total dependence upon intuition is a total dependence upon a portion of your deep self which is unreliable. Much comes through the intuition which is of extreme merit. Much occurs by seeming intuition which is in fact a product of deep fears, experiences from previous incarnations which have not yet been worked out, and the phantasmagoria of static, shall we say, as if you were between radio stations, as this instrument would call them, and were picking up no clear signal, but a babble of varying messages. So you see that the mind is to be taken as a whole thing and not split, for the intellect and the intuition are both portions of the mind.

You are not your mind. Your mind is a kind of information processor which works for you as a tool. It is well to understand that the mind has great value in your seeking. It is well to balance your seeking, not shutting out the loud voice of intellect when it offers you new ideas, new questions, new waves of skepticism. It is wise to listen to your intuition, to quiet yourself, so that you may feel and be in a more whole and entire sense, for the heart of yourself is being—not thinking, not feeling—but being.

You are consciousness, and that consciousness creates. It has created this moment for you by the work it has done in the past. It will create what you call your future as the work that you are doing at this moment comes into manifestation. The tool of intuition is one which may be applied by the remembering and recording of your dreams and visions, by the listening to what this instrument would call the still small voice, the voice that says, “This is good; this is not so good. This feels right; this does not feel right.” An intuitive person often has no verbalized reason for these feelings. It is always well to recognize them and give them respect. It is also well to use the tool of the intellect insofar as that skill is a portion of your native character, for the intellect can analyze dreams and visions, can examine thoughts and find from them the harvest of love therein, can temper the feelings of “should” and “could” and “yes” and “no” with sometimes an encouraging and sometimes a cautionary analysis of those intuitions. Many a baseless fear has been removed because of the work of the analytical portion of the mind.

However, neither analysis nor intuition can offer the heart of seeking, for the heart of your seeking is found in that fathomless portion of yourself which seeks and wills to know and has the faith that there is something to know. These things are gifts. The mind has been earned. It is a product of many, many incarnations, and it reflects your biases. Neither intellect nor intuition often reach deep enough to uncover faith and will.

Good on you for this work, by the way. There, transparent to both intellect and intuition (to some degree), you may uncover more “faith and will.”

The following passage brought to mind your comment quoted above.

The love coming to you can be thought of as the light of stars. The light of the nearby star which is your sun burns hotly from such a relatively close distance, and, perhaps, within the wisdom of this light, there seems also a danger. But the light from the distant stars is cool and moves through your time to shine upon your upturned face years after that star has disappeared.

The gift of love and light radiates to you from elsewhere and from other selves. You, in turn, radiate in essential being and in your thoughts and actions to serve as a channel for that light and love that inspires, comforts and soothes others. There is no way to keep an account ledger to be sure that what is given out is again received—not because there is not balance, but because love and light do not contain in themselves quantity but only quality. They are essences, not things to be measured: infinite qualities, rather than finite forces of a certain magnitude.

The intellectual perspective does keep us (what we call) sane in the face of potential infinity. In order to digest the meal, we have to cut it up into sizes smaller than our mouths.

This gives us perspective as we then may slowly begin to feel our way into what we are: our infinite essence.

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OK, so I did a bit of an exercise putting on the various Godheads. The effect was surprising. I only did four and for thirty seconds each.

In my opinion, it is worth the study.

Obviously, mostly we are stuck in our own archetypes and when I did this exercise. It felt like I was able to perceive something that was kind of stagnant before because it was my normal way of looking at things. One of the four godheads I did I don’t have a single hexagram in.

Professor Elkins was very actively interested in regressive hypnosis. This becomes obvious if you read the first books of Don and Carla. Love and light are described as influences between incarnations in the literature devoted to the study of regression. I went in this direction to learn more about spiritualism and hypnosis. Ra also spoke quite clearly about Kabbalah. Given Don’s interest in English esotericism, I came to the conclusion that Ra is talking about archetypes from the point of view of the four Kabbalistic worlds. And yes, if you look at the Tree of Life, this scheme is very similar to the Indian sushumna/ida/pingala system.

Hello there. I’d be very interested to read what you learned from your study of hypnosis. Where I live, in the USA, hypnosis is dramatically misunderstood and under utilized. Part of the problem, as I see it, is that the outlay (or so called geography) of the various parts of self which are unconscious to us is so poorly mapped out.

If a person could learn to create a better partnership with their subconscious self, why would they not jump at the chance for all manner of reasons?

What did you learn?

Very little, actually. But it seems to me that I have gone through the process of individuation and now I can understand some things better than before. As for hypnosis, especially its deep stages, it takes two people to create the right rapport.

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