# STS and STO, are twisted?

**URL:** <https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/sts-and-sto-are-twisted/2842>\
**Category:** Strictly Law of One\
**Created:** [March 17, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/sts-and-sto-are-twisted/2842 "2025-03-17T14:12:58Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/sts-and-sto-are-twisted/2842/5 "2025-03-19T14:52:30Z")

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Thank you for so patiently sharing your thoughts on this,

I have been pondering the subject with this additional context and now the idea of sts and sto feels more relatable to me.

I understand that verbal language is rather clunky and we apply it to the best of our ability in regards to referring to and describing reality.

a conceptual framework can be helpful to some degree, while there is the risks of misleading inaccuracy within any such framework

I think most people can relate to what is described in sts and sto, and I wonder if the titles can be tweaked for easier understanding of what they are pointing towards outside of the context of their descriptions, that is, being negative and positive

as I find that simply painting sts as inherently negative, is somewhat confusing, I would suggest a re-categorization of STO and STS as follows:

P-STS: Positive-Service To Self  
win/win oriented(?)

Example: Self care can be of great service to others who care about you, hence positive-sts. win/win

and,  
N-STS: Negative-Service To Self  
win/lose oriented(?)

Example: Lifting myself up by pushing others down, Negative-sts  
win/lose

Thoughts?

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