# Some clear words

**URL:** <https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439>\
**Category:** Spiritual & Metaphysical Matters\
**Created:** [September 5, 2023, 10:15am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439 "2023-09-05T10:15:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [October 11, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/101 "2023-10-11T20:04:19Z")

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Well Patrick, after the last “troubles” I was sceptical if this could be pulled off, and here we are! 🙂

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/102 "2023-10-12T02:10:54Z")

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Don’t get me wrong Patrick, I didn’t say that it was wrong (or right).  
In this dance between STO and STS; 100% STO will act like a ‘floor mat’, serving the bully by being bullied, serving the enslaver by being enslaved.  
Thus a ‘healthy doze’ of STS is needed.  
The art is how to find this ‘healthy doze’ thus ‘balanced’.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/103 "2023-10-12T02:59:19Z")

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Top tier.

You’re the one creator

T masquerading as M

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**Author:** ![tadeus](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/tadeus/32/128_2.png) [@tadeus](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/tadeus)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 7:49am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/104 "2023-10-12T07:49:34Z")

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> [@K.K.33](#):
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> I perceive it slightly differently, a perspective I’ve hinted at in a previous post. For anyone cognizant of the Law of One, the objective should be to reintegrate oneself and all other dispersed parts back to the source of Oneness.
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> This can be achieved by uniting and progressing towards that Oneness.

Yes - you can integrate yourself to the Oneness, but not other self.  
Specially not other self that is not aware of oneness or does not want this.  
This is the real choice - to be part of oneness or not - and this is the reason why the negative entities are negative, not because this is the conception of the one creator but rather the own free will of some entities.

> [@K.K.33](#):
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> Another approach is, while preserving free will of others, to invite those of STS to join us on the journey towards the One, for ultimately, this is the terminal point even for those presently on the STS path.

You only invite them to harvest your energy. The STS entites are detached from the intelligent energy by their own choice and are depending on the energy of the entities who are still connected to it.

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**Author:** ![tadeus](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/tadeus/32/128_2.png) [@tadeus](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/tadeus)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 8:00am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/105 "2023-10-12T08:00:44Z")

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> [@Passer-by](#):
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> This is not a new concept in the so-called “New Age” Tadeus, it’s been around since recorded history.

One of many evidences that this is a part of the mindcontrol program.  
The relevant difference is that this old knowledge is used to keep people in passivity.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/c/c8810cebf9a20a0ed6ba5f135db06e4fa2ba2275.jpeg "Yuri Bezmenov: Ideological Subversion (GER Subs)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBbCcE91mVk)

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 8:27am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/106 "2023-10-12T08:27:14Z")

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> [@tadeus](#):
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> One of many evidences that this is a part of the mindcontrol program.  
> The relevant difference is that this old knowledge is used to keep people in passivity.

I was wondering what you were going to do with that…

Now all the Daoists, Zen masters, Hindu sages and Buddhas of ancient times are all in on the grand conspiracy. 🙃

All the best to you, Tadeus…and I mean that sincerely. ❤

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**Author:** ![K.K.33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/k.k.33/32/1845_2.png) [@K.K.33](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/K.K.33)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 9:19am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/107 "2023-10-12T09:19:31Z")

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I largely concur with your viewpoints, and you articulate truths using straightforward language, that I uphold. Our divergence lies merely in specific nuances and preserved contexts.

For instance, when I stated: “Another approach is, while preserving free will of others, to invite those of STS to join us on the journey towards the One, for ultimately, this is the terminal point even for those presently on the STS path.”

What I intended to convey was that individuals adhering to STS can be willed to adopt the STO philosophy when they experienced their personal bankruptcy (that is a plausible occurrence) something like that could served as a catalyst and open them to the light and love emanated by those of STO.

However, if we welcome them similarly to sheep inviting a wolf into their flock, the probable outcome is that they will be devoured.

In such a context as in above paragraph, your words…

> [@tadeus](#):
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> You only invite them to harvest your energy. The STS entites are detached from the intelligent energy by their own choice and are depending on the energy of the entities who are still connected to it.

…are completely understandable to me and I support them.

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**Author:** ![Patrick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/patrick/32/5_2.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Patrick)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 10:50am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/108 "2023-10-12T10:50:11Z")

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> [@Quid](#):
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> In this dance between STO and STS; 100% STO will act like a ‘floor mat’, serving the bully by being bullied

Oh I see. 🙂 Well then I do not believe we can ever be STO enough to have that problem. It seems to me that even wanderers struggles to keep above 51%.

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**Author:** ![Patrick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/patrick/32/5_2.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Patrick)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:01am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/109 "2023-10-12T11:01:57Z")

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I think that childish/foolish faith is not given enough space in our lives when it comes to interpreting the surface events taking place on this planet.

It’s possible to both be aware of the puppet strings and still see that all is well. There is a perfect plan and we can have faith in it.

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**Author:** ![tadeus](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/tadeus/32/128_2.png) [@tadeus](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/tadeus)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:07am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/110 "2023-10-12T11:07:07Z")

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> [@Passer-by](#):
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> Now all the Daoists, Zen masters, Hindu sages and Buddhas of ancient times are all in on the grand conspiracy. 🙃

The word conspiracy has been established by the same forces.  
Everyone who is compromised to wake up shall sit there, consume drugs, dream from oneness and has no interest to take position what is happening in the world.  
Just isolate, split, passivate.

> [@K.K.33](#):
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> What I intended to convey was that individuals adhering to STS can be willed to adopt the STO philosophy when they experienced their personal bankruptcy (that is a plausible occurrence) something like that could served as a catalyst and open them to the light and love emanated by those of STO.

This may happen to the clerks of the real STS entites, but not to the real STS entities themselves.  
The Kali-Yuga is the time when it is possible that individuals from other STS densities can incarnate here.

Everyone has to choose if it is the will to feed this with the own energy.  
They can only be stopped by truncating them from our energy.

> [@Patrick](#):
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> Oh I see. 🙂 Well then I do not believe we can ever be STO enough to have that problem. It seems to me that even wanderers struggles to keep above 51%.

We have to be very cautious and be aware what we are supporting.

> [@Patrick](#):
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> There is a perfect plan and we can have faith in it.

The plan of the STS entities is admirable perfect.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:16am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/111 "2023-10-12T11:16:18Z")

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> [@tadeus](#):
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> The plan of the STS entities is admirable perfect.

Do you have more faith in their plans than in the Creator’s plan?

It’s only one plan. There is only One. 🙂

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/112 "2023-10-12T11:23:51Z")

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There is really an old plan, you can find it in the bible, specially for the last 1260 days.

> **[Bible Gateway passage: 2 Thessalonians 2 - New International Version](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%2BThessalonians%2B2&version=NIV)**
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> The Man of Lawlessness - Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of...

> **[Die Bibel - Zweisprachig | Deutsch - Englisch | Lukas 21 - Luke 21](https://www.transcripture.com/deutsch-englisch-lukas-21.html)**
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> Die Bibel - Zweisprachig , Deutsch - Englisch, Lukas 21 - Luke 21.

> Luke 21:8[^](https://www.transcripture.com/deutsch-englisch-lukas-21.html)
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> And he said, Take care that you are not tricked: for a number of people will come in my name, saying, I am he; and, The time is near: do not go after them.
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> And when news of wars and troubled times comes to your ears, have no fear; for these things have to be, but the end will not be now.
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> Then he said to them, Nation will be moved against nation and kingdom against kingdom:
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> There will be great earth-shocks and outbursts of disease in a number of places, and men will be without food; and there will be wonders and great signs from heaven.
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> But before all this, they will take you and be very cruel to you, giving you up to the Synagogues and to prisons, taking you before kings and rulers, because of my name.
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> And it will be turned to a witness for you.

et cetera …

Everyone has the choice to accept the sign of 666 or to reject it.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/113 "2023-10-12T11:42:13Z")

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> [@tadeus](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > Luke 21:8[^](https://www.transcripture.com/deutsch-englisch-lukas-21.html)
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> > …when news of wars and troubled times comes to your ears, have no fear; for these things have to be…

This is what I mean when I say there is only one plan.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/114 "2023-10-12T11:55:19Z")

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> [@Jesus](#):
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> Take therefore no thought for the morrow.

🙂

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/115 "2023-10-12T14:04:52Z")

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> [@Patrick](#):
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> This is what I mean when I say there is only one plan.

Maybe - but this does not include that you should ignore the warmongers.  
And no prophecy must fulfill - a prophecy is a chance to choose and act in another way.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/116 "2023-10-12T14:11:20Z")

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> [@Patrick](#):
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> It seems to me that even wanderers struggles to keep above 51%.

I’ve witnessed quite a few of those, in planet earth.  
Sacrificing self interest for the sake of others.  
Although the ‘others’ are continuosly abusive.  
Whether they’re ‘wanderer’ or ‘not wanderer’ to me it doesn’t matter.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/117 "2023-10-12T14:23:00Z")

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> [@tadeus](#):
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> The plan of the STS entities is admirable perfect.

By “perfect” you mean that it will eventually returned to be “balanced” back towards STOs?  
That’s how I define “perfect”.  
Illustration of “perfect” a.k.a “balanced” state.  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/5/5cc1c190b08c7ef2e97b7736dd2cbfeb76d2c861.png)

The dance of STOs and STSs, or in Star Wars lingo, jedi vs sith, light vs dark side of the force, is an eternal dance.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/118 "2023-10-12T14:33:05Z")

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> [@tadeus](#):
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> Maybe - but this does not include that you should ignore the warmongers.

Having faith does not mean that one is ignoring those. It means having faith that whatever one can do to help will happen in exactly the best way for each.

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**Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/some-clear-words/1439/119 "2023-10-12T16:22:27Z")

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Carla’s comment in book 5 when Don asked a conspiracy theory related question:

> [@Carla](#):
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> I think it is important, in the context of this little volume of fragments we kept out of the first four volumes of The Law Of One, that we look straight and hard at the tendency of UFO researchers and people in general to see conspiracies and treachery behind every bush and gossip item.
> 
> When I first started reading in this area, in the late sixties, there were prophets claiming a near future in which war, catastrophe and desolation would reign. In the years since, nothing has changed but the dates.
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> Always this great trouble is seen to be coming a couple of years from now, and the call is to put all else aside except for preparing for this time of trial.
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> I have known people of sound judgment who have basement walls lined with freeze-dried food, proof against disaster. Let’s call it the bomb shelter syndrome.
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> The thing I wish to emphasize is that these thoughts do harm to the innocent future. They take present energy away from the immediate happenings of the day, and sap it with chronic fear and fear-based planning.
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> Disasters do occur, indubitably. And when they do come, we can hope simply to meet them with some grace. In that day, it will be the people who have learned to live from a loving heart that will be able to help the most, not the people who have barricaded themselves into a mind-set based on fear.

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> [@Carla](#):
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> In that day, it will be the people who have learned to live from a loving heart that will be able to help the most, not the people who have barricaded themselves into a mind-set based on fear.

Through the “Is Not” one will uncover the “Is”.  
The opposite of fear is acceptance and understanding. These begin with curiosity, which initiates an investigation, which leads to learning, which, in turn, creates knowledge, understanding and acceptance.  
Key & Peele sketch: Bully On Truth Serum

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/0/0cd4282be73b42c6053ef7756f4f94292c51261c.jpeg "A Wise Bully - Key & Peele") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwvqCIAAd-M)

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