# Q’uotes Discussions

**URL:** <https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376>\
**Category:** Confederation Philosophy\
**Created:** [July 29, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376 "2023-07-29T11:55:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@Quan](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quan)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 2:53pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/382 "2026-03-22T14:53:49Z")

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> [@Mirror](#):
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> It seems to my dear old self that this is only true in a context where one is focused on infinity and mystery.

Yes well that is name of the game, within context of this material 😆 It all comes down to ones choice on perception..

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**Author:** ![Patrick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/patrick/32/5_2.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Patrick)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 5:01pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/383 "2026-03-22T17:01:39Z")

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A post was merged into an existing topic: [Daily Q’uote from L/L Research Channeling](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/daily-quote-from-l-l-research-channeling/90/1827)

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**Author:** ![Mirror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 5:40pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/384 "2026-04-05T17:40:32Z")

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> [@Daily Q'uote from L/L Research Channeling](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/daily-quote-from-l-l-research-channeling/90/1844):
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> “Shall you wish for a pure heart? Then, inevitably, shall you notice each and every impurity which you perceive in the self. Do you wish to be always the one who offers love? Just as strong as this desire is, so is the strength of your ability to notice unloving acts.

Basically, if you want to live in a clean space, then clean up the messes. Good advice for me, personally! It is daunting, but simple. The price of a clean heart is simple.

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**Author:** ![Quan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@Quan](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quan)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2026, 10:56am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/385 "2026-04-06T10:56:39Z")

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Thank you for the comments Mirror, the sums it up well.

Yes that price it comes down to that increasing responsibility as more is asked and received. That concept is captured nicely in this quote here from Law of One when asked about healing..

”One item which may be of interest is that a healer asking to learn must take the distortion understood as responsibility for that ask/receiving, thus healing. This is a[n] honor/duty which must be carefully considered in free will before the asking.” Simply makes it easier to keep progressing.. what you need to work on stands out more. Although may not always seem so good at the time 😆

A side note healing in Law of One speak is this “Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is no disharmony, no imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect”

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**Author:** ![Mirror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2026, 3:54pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/386 "2026-04-07T15:54:40Z")

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> .." those things which keep repeating in your life, and discovering that which is acutely new to your consciousness but which has been coming together in your subconscious mind through time in incarnation. "

It’s interesting to reflect on how the work of learning the lessons we set out for ourselves to meet up with in this incarnation first bubble around in our subconscious before the conscious mind becomes aware of this. On the one hand, this is obvious, but on the other, it suggests we could possibly sift through our subconscious content to get some sense of what lessons we are incubating. One way to do this is by subtle observation.

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**Author:** ![Lightfoot](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/lightfoot/32/3334_2.png) [@Lightfoot](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Lightfoot)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2026, 8:23pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/387 "2026-04-07T20:23:46Z")

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Thank you Mirror for this accurate understanding that through observation we can learn those subtle hints, and following them, we expand who we are, and come to greater knowing, and greater expansion of our self.   
Through that development we enrich multiple strands of energy - through cooperation with our inner dreams and soul pattern, expansion will come to our self and being of the love polarity orientation, a service to others occur simultaneously partly because we would better represent who they are - better reflect and mirror their own light, but also as an active principle, an active and conscious decision to offer service in physical realm would most probably come forth as a natural reaction to the expansion within - sooner or later. Sometimes it is delayed (The will to serve others) obviously due to blockages, bad karma (eg. greed and love of money in past life influences present day motivation), but if one was to keep following their intuition and following through with those inclinations observed then it is a natural byproduct of soul development and aligning our WILL to the will of the Light/Lord/Logos within, who was touching our heart.

Then miracles can happen.

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/388 "2026-04-09T19:13:53Z")

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> [@Lightfoot](#):
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> better reflect and mirror their own light,

So agree, Lightfoot.

And the joy of reflecting the other one’s light is pretty incredible

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**Author:** ![Mirror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/389 "2026-04-11T16:30:42Z")

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> [@Daily Q'uote from L/L Research Channeling](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/daily-quote-from-l-l-research-channeling/90/1851):
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> In the metaphysical world, time/space, all things occur in a circular ubiquity, happening all at once and tending towards being harvested, in terms of any experience that one has towards the middle or the source of your incarnation, so that things that you learn in all incarnations are being harvested into the soul stream’s center.

I find this passage surprisingly comforting. I guess it brings to heart the Home Team and makes me a bit nostalgic for the camaraderie. It gets lonely, playing way the hell out in left field in a stadium with no limiting walls, no scoreboard and no clear boundary lines. It feels good to be reminded of my buddies waiting in the dugout.

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**Author:** ![Mirror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 6:34pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/390 "2026-04-12T18:34:10Z")

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> [@Daily Q'uote from L/L Research Channeling](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/daily-quote-from-l-l-research-channeling/90/1852):
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> "…Many entities, having made contact with a consciousness of love, are then capable of keeping that relationship with direct perception of the Creator as a part of the point of view which is used to evaluate all those things within the illusion. May we suggest that this is indeed a worthwhile process. It will intensify experience from the point of view of generating more catalyst for your heart to digest than meditation in a cave would. "

The term, “a consciousness of love,” perhaps could use some elaboration, because to a being operating primarily with a personal consciousness (using energy centers 1, 2 and 3) it might suggest simply an awareness of love. Another way of viewing it is that, when a person shifts from living for mainly personal-reactive purposes to being guided to act for the common good, a shift in consciousness may occur that opens the possibility of regarding all things for symbolic-impersonal purposes. This shift allows one to engage with " more catalyst for your heart to digest."

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**Author:** ![K.K.33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/k.k.33/32/1845_2.png) [@K.K.33](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/K.K.33)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 8:07am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/391 "2026-04-13T08:07:05Z")

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Another way to express this, in the context of the quote, is that “a consciousness of love” involves elevating and centering one’s perception within the part of one’s mental life that blends with the perspective of the Higher Self, and then with that of the Creator. This, in turn, allows for more effective processing of catalyst in material daily life.

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/392 "2026-04-16T03:43:16Z")

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> [@Mirror](#):
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> a shift in consciousness may occur that opens the possibility of regarding all things for symbolic-impersonal purposes

But parhaps those symbolic-impersonal purposes are still 'melted’t together in some sort of loving embrace for each soul

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**Author:** ![Mirror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 5:47am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/393 "2026-04-16T05:47:19Z")

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> [@flofrog](#):
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> But parhaps those symbolic-impersonal purposes are still 'melted’t together in some sort of loving embrace for each soul

Yes, I would hope so. The point is the development from growing due to the impulses of nature (feeding, sex, social climbing, need for deeper understanding) to growing because one is propelled to serve and to love. This is related to Q’uo’s description above: “…capable of keeping that relationship with direct perception of the Creator as a part of the point of view…” The heart guides the actions.

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**Author:** ![Quan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@Quan](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quan)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 10:32am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/394 "2026-04-17T10:32:38Z")

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Great discussion.. now to tie it back to a couple of Law of One quotes, that I have been meditating a lot past few days and synchronistic link to this. Subject of Catalyst and the energy centers..

First.. is

"[54](https://www.lawofone.info/s/54).[17](https://www.lawofone.info/s/54#17) **Questioner:** I would like then to trace the evolution of catalyst upon the mind/body/spirit complexes and how it comes into use and is fully used to create this tuning. I assume that the sub-Logos that formed our tiny part of the creation, using the intelligence of the Logos of which it is a part, provides, shall I say, the base catalyst that will act upon mind/body complexes and mind/body/spirit complexes before they reach the state of development where they can begin to program their own catalyst. Is this correct?

**Ra:** I am Ra. This is partially correct. The sub-Logos offers the catalyst at the lower levels of energy, the first triad; these have to do with the survival of the physical complex. The higher centers gain catalyst from the biases of the mind/body/spirit complex itself in response to all random and directed experiences.

Thus the less developed entity will perceive the catalyst about it in terms of survival of the physical complex, with the distortions which are preferred. The more conscious entity, being conscious of the catalytic process, will begin to transform the catalyst offered by the sub-Logos into catalyst which may act upon the higher energy nexi.

Thus the sub-Logos can offer only a basic skeleton, shall we say, of catalyst. The muscles and flesh—having to do with the, shall we say, survival of wisdom, love, compassion, and service—are brought about by the action of the mind/body/spirit complex on basic catalyst so as to create a more complex catalyst which may, in turn, be used to form distortions within these higher energy centers.

The more advanced the entity, the more tenuous the connection between the sub-Logos and the perceived catalyst until, finally, all catalyst is chosen, generated, and manufactured by the self, for the self."

Now the all important one..

"[54](https://www.lawofone.info/s/54).[25](https://www.lawofone.info/s/54#25) **Questioner:** Then it seems that those on the positive path, as opposed to those on the negative path, would have precisely the reciprocal objective in the first three rays; red, orange, and yellow. Each path would be attempting to utilize the rays in precisely opposite manners. Is this correct?

**Ra:** I am Ra. It is partially, and even substantially, correct. There is an energy in each of the centers needed to keep the mind/body/spirit complex, which is the vehicle for experience, in correct conformation and composition. Both negative and positive entities do well to reserve this small portion of each center for the maintenance of the integrity of the mind/body/spirit complex. After this point, however, it is correct that the negative will use the three lower centers for separation from and control over others—by sexual means, by personal assertion, and by action in your societies.

Contrary-wise, the positively oriented entity will be transmuting strong red-ray sexual energy into green-ray energy transfers and radiation in blue and indigo, and will be similarly transmuting selfhood and place in society into energy transfer situations in which the entity may merge with and serve others and then, finally, radiate unto others without expecting any transfer in return."

The whole discussion of 54 is a great one, (if more reading is desired an to bring it all into context).. That last paragraph above though.. is just such a treasure chest to meditate on, and come back to in future and rinse and repeat for more to be found, especially when bringing int into context with the above 54.17 quote..

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 4:55pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/395 "2026-04-19T16:55:28Z")

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> [@Quan](#):
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> The whole discussion of 54 is a great one, (if more reading is desired an to bring it all into context).. That last paragraph above though.. is just such a treasure chest to meditate on, and come back to in future and rinse and repeat for more to be found, especially when bringing int into context with the above 54.17 quote..

thank you Quan I will revisit that one , or just happily visit if I havent visited before !!! 🩷

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/396 "2026-04-19T16:56:59Z")

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> [@Daily Q'uote from L/L Research Channeling](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/daily-quote-from-l-l-research-channeling/90/1856):
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> that each of you may enjoy a leisurely, organic and natural ascension

leisurely ? leisurely ? 😂 thank you Quan !!!

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**Author:** ![Quan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@Quan](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quan)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 10:35am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/397 "2026-04-20T10:35:25Z")

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Haha yes an interesting word choice

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 2:26am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/398 "2026-04-21T02:26:25Z")

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> [@Daily Q'uote from L/L Research Channeling](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/daily-quote-from-l-l-research-channeling/90/1864):
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> “That is how powerful you really are.”

I remember reading a long time ago discussions between the Maharishi and students, and to the question , " how do you make the world better ?" He answered, " I put myself in order and the world rearranges itself around me " which I thought at the time, as I was very young… whoa isn’t that a bit presumptuous ? lol, as missing the point totally !! 😅

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**Author:** ![Quan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7cd45c/32.png) [@Quan](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 8:07am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/399 "2026-04-21T08:07:37Z")

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Haha well thats a perfectly normal reaction for ones rational mind 😆

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**Author:** ![Mirror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 5:55pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/400 "2026-04-21T17:55:20Z")

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> [@flofrog](#):
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> …which I thought at the time, as I was very young… whoa isn’t that a bit presumptuous

How do you regard his comment now in your present stage of life?

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2026, 7:49pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/q-uotes-discussions/1376/401 "2026-04-21T19:49:22Z")

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> [@Mirror](#):
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> How do you regard his comment now in your present stage of life?

It makes total sense.

I in fact made a spelling mistake of his name, the person I was referring to is Ramana Maharshi, not the person called the Maharishi… my mistake, sorry.

The ‘order’ that Ramana spoke about effectively starts inside and the world as we experiment it indeed changes

He was also such a kind man. My sister travelled to Arunachala, but he had passed away years before. Her husband had in fact met Ramana during WW2 and it changed his life, or rather my sister 's husband decided to change his life.

The Maharshi was a lovely sage.

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