# My insights about Tao and Firstborn Evil

**URL:** <https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152>\
**Category:** Spiritual & Metaphysical Matters\
**Created:** [July 6, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152 "2024-07-06T16:10:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Dima](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Dima)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/63 "2024-07-10T22:08:04Z")

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> [@TerraInfinitia22](#):
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> It is as you have said in a post, the negative entity tries to get it’s way however it can.
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> This is not because they are bad or evil but because of frustration.

agree. I like how you were able to condense my thoughts into a short passage.

> [@TerraInfinitia22](#):
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> No one is permanently always in pain forever from the beginning of their existence.

agree. I believe that souls begin their journey without joining anyone at first. They simply explore the world using their uniqueness. And then, experience corrects you.

> [@TerraInfinitia22](#):
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> If I were a negative entity or something as such, this is the advice

> [@TerraInfinitia22](#):
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> keep going.

I think this is the best advice you can give to a negative entity. But it is only advice. In addition to advice, take action. Try to be warm to this entity. But if this entity is extremely unpleasant to you, then do not dare to force yourself, it is better to be sincere.

> [@TerraInfinitia22](#):
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> Tao Te Ching tells us that it is common knowledge that more fluid things, like rivers, erode rock, yet no one seems to make use of this knowledge

because there is no point in this “knowledge”. the higher self has already taken care of what needed to be taken care of. it’s like running next to a cyclist, trying to speed up his bike, while you were not asked to do this acceleration, the cyclist himself is able to take care of the speed of movement. in general, i think you understand me.

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**Author:** ![Dima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Dima](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Dima)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/64 "2024-07-10T23:20:07Z")

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Since I have been talking a lot about God here, I would also like to include here this wonderful answer from our brother.

> [@Is a 6D Wanderer their own Higher Self?](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-a-6d-wanderer-their-own-higher-self/2132/2):
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> According to my understanding of the Confederation’s teachings, the situation is as follows: Consider a spiritually healthy native 3D person (not a Wanderer), fully equipped with all energy centers. This being is present across all density levels from the 1st to the 7th (and even the 8th, though we can set that aside for now). Such a person is both their Higher Self and the Creator, existing on every density level. However, their conscious attention currently manifests at the 3rd density level (in the mind/body/spirit complex). A 6th density STO Wanderer is in a similar position, existing across all density levels but currently manifesting in 3rd density. Let’s consider the moment of creation and the beginning of a new octave. Densities form from the first density upwards as containers for consciousness, while consciousness is seeded from above. The Self as Creator (7th density) separates and becomes the Higher Self (6th density), then this Higher Self further separates to become the Light Self (5th density), and so on, down to the 1st density. On this prepared ground, maintaining some connection with the Higher Self and the Creator, consciousness begins to evolve from a stone to higher levels, eventually becoming an individual self-aware entity, making choices, reaching the Higher Self, and reconnecting with the Creator. Progressing towards connection with the Creator is akin to climbing a tightrope. Consider a person on Earth who has only experienced from the 1st to the 3rd densities and is now close to transitioning to 4th density STO. This person, a 3rd density native, has knowledge, habits, and experiences from the 1st to the 3rd densities, integrated at the 3rd density level. Their connection with their 6th Density Higher Self is limited to communication. Now, consider a 6th Density STO Wanderer. This person not only communicates with their Higher Self (6th Density) but also possesses experiences from densities 1 to 6. Unlike a native 3rd density person, the Wanderer has lived, worked, and experienced life at the 6th Density level. After death in 3rd density, a native 3rd density person merges with their Higher Self (6th density), plans further incarnations based on recent experiences, and reincarnates into 3rd Density. The 6th density Wanderer, already at the level of the Higher Self, reincarnates as 3rd Density, bringing with them their 6th density experiences. Both the 3rd density native and the Wanderer are subject to the veil of forgetting, experiencing separation from their Higher Self, which they can only communicate with. For both, the Higher Self is their future self, with which they will reconnect. The difference lies in the soul’s experiences at various density levels, stored in the subconscious. The 6D Wanderer has more extensive experiences than the 3D native. In practice, this means that a 3rd density native person, for instance, might have lived as a Christian in medieval Europe. Their Higher Self programs them to continue a spiritual life focused on choices of love in modern times, feeling natural in a religious context. On the other hand, a Wanderer, with 6th density experiences, is programmed by their Higher Self to align with teachings and ways of life consistent with 6th density. For example, they might find resonance with the Ra material and feel an innate understanding and acceptance of it because their Higher Self sees it as beneficial. In summary, in 3rd density, both the native person and the Wanderer are separated from direct connection with their Higher Self. The native connects with their 6th density Higher Self without having 6th density experiences, while the Wanderer connects with their Higher Self and has 6th density experiences stored in their subconscious. This makes it easier for the Wanderer to see through the veil and understand 6th density teachings intuitively. I hope this has brought you closer to understanding the process. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I will try to answer as clearly as possible, trying to remain consistent with the teachings of the Confederation.

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**Author:** ![Dima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Dima](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Dima)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/65 "2024-07-10T23:22:25Z")

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i know that our true 7th density essence, our unique “creator” of us that we are, comes from 8th density. in fact, all i have been doing is studying what we (our 7th density creator) were like within 8th density, being a 3rd density human now 🙃. I was sort of connecting the Ra material with Seth material.

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**Author:** ![GoldenRTriangle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GoldenRTriangle](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/GoldenRTriangle)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/66 "2024-07-11T02:31:44Z")

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To better understand what “Heaven” or “天” represents in China, let me give a few examples:

In Chinese folk culture, if someone enjoys life immensely, they might say, “I wish I could borrow another 500 years of life from heaven.”

If someone is in great distress, they might curse, “Heaven, please open your eyes and see all this.”

If someone chooses a path of separation, they might say, “I won’t let the heaven cover my eyes again.”

If someone decides to defy fate, they might declare, “My fate is determined by me, not by heaven.”

In China there isn’t a concept of God as in Western traditions, but rather the concept of heaven and earth. To some extent, heaven is regarded as a sort of God or creator.

Certainly, you can interpret this passage in another way. You are free to interpret the meaning of the “straw dog” and why heaven and earth are not humane. After all, words are just tools, and everyone can have their own understanding.

I say it has negative implications because of its impact in China.

Many Chinese works like to use this sentence as the central theme of their stories. When I was young, I read a novel called “Zhu Xian”, in which the protagonist had a very tragic background. In the end, the author used this sentence to declare the “operating rules” of this world, conveying a central idea of survival of the fittest and self-service. The core of the entire novel is about constant upgrading, becoming stronger, conquering others, and achieving one’s own goals. The novel conveys the meaning that “heaven and earth are not humane, treating all things as straw dogs, so we cannot rely on heaven’s mercy and must become strong enough to achieve our goals ourselves.”

However, this novel was very popular in China and sparked a wave of cultivation novels, whether it’s “Fan Ren Xiu Xian Zhuan” or “Xian Ni.” All are based on this core idea, expressing a worldview of survival of the fittest, where the protagonist continuously grows stronger, conquers others, and achieves their own goals.

Yes, you could say that Laozi’s original intention wasn’t like this. But from my personal viewpoint, what matters isn’t Laozi’s original intent, but how people interpret this passage. The general public doesn’t have very profound analytical abilities; they tend to interpret things literally. At least in China, this passage is widely understood in a very negative light.

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**Author:** ![soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@soup](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/soup)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/67 "2024-07-11T06:04:44Z")

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Chinese language and literacy seems awesome.  
A dictionary may contain 40,000 characters,  
and common people recognize a few thousand.  
Longer than any other culture, people have  
tempered their minds by basic literacy and  
and average intelligence seems very high.

I wonder if Law of One is available in  
a Mandarin version, and if something like  
that would be permitted and find an  
audience receptive. My impression is  
that Chinese government seems less  
oppressive for things of this nature.

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**Author:** ![GoldenRTriangle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GoldenRTriangle](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/GoldenRTriangle)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 9:42am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/68 "2024-07-11T09:42:11Z")

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There is indeed a Chinese version, and there is a Chinese translation team.

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**Author:** ![TerraInfinitia22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9f8e36/32.png) [@TerraInfinitia22](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/TerraInfinitia22)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/69 "2024-07-11T14:27:58Z")

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> [@Dima](#):
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> because there is no point in this “knowledge”. the higher self has already taken care of what needed to be taken care of. it’s like running next to a cyclist, trying to speed up his bike, while you were not asked to do this acceleration, the cyclist himself is able to take care of the speed of movement. in general, i think you understand me.

Ohhhh…

So that is what you meant that the Tao Te Ching has lines which are perhaps less fully deep than others, or which are perhaps there to fill in for something else.

In other words, the greatest flow in the world, the Tao, is unknowable.

Yet this is not guiding you from that way of telling this truth that is available, perhaps.

  
That does feel like a more nice way to teach it.  

> [@Dima](#):
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> I think this is the best advice you can give to a negative entity. But it is only advice. In addition to advice, take action. Try to be warm to this entity. But if this entity is extremely unpleasant to you, then do not dare to force yourself, it is better to be sincere.

I will always be warm to all folks that want to change as long as there is an “I” to be warm.

As for those that don’t…

That truly is a choice, I would suppose, in the end.

Mysterious, but I will not judge that way.

> [@Dima](#):
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> agree. I like how you were able to condense my thoughts into a short passage.

It is a gained ability. No one is born powerful, I believe, since the Universe is for all.

No one is “weak” or “powerful”, but because of what they are, the Universe can be said, if you would, to be for the weak to become powerful if they wish.

  
There is a lot of talk about ancient spirituality in magical circles, and I believe that the ancients before written History had active methods for self-transition that were truly remarkable, although they somehow used them for power and delusion, getting very into that, from what the tales and stories tell, at least - which may be inaccurate..  
  

> [@Dima](#):
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> If you really want to know what condition I’m in, I have problems with my blood pressure now. It’s constantly going up. And if I’m nervous, it goes up even more. When my blood pressure is 170, it feels really bad and my body hurts. I take a few pills a day so my heart doesn’t hurt, and I do this every day. I take about a regular box of pills a week. And I’ve been doing this for a year now. I can’t live without pills. Of course, I try not to get nervous and all that, but now my body just can’t handle the stress. So take care of yourself and your health. But don’t overdo it in taking care of yourself. A year ago, I was addicted to sweets, I ate a lot of sweet buns, muffins, chips, and sugary drinks every day. It was hard to stop.

I feel like sometimes a light addiction to sweets is related to your feeling through a lot of stuff.

I congratulate you for being here with us, no matter what it took to get here and speak.

  

> [@Dima](#):
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> Well, if you think so, you are very much mistaken. I was extremely inquisitive as a child, I spent almost all my free time reading books, from morning until noon, with short breaks. I was not interested in communicating with children. I think it’s because of bad experiences in communication I had. So I did not go for walks. I was sitting at home. Most of all I liked encyclopedias, where various interesting facts from various areas of life were briefly given. I had encyclopedias on space, anatomy, even gardening. There was no father from birth, there was a mother. I asked my mother too many questions, she did not like it. And when I came and started to tell about something fascinating that I read in the encyclopedia, she shut me up and asked me to go to my room. I think you don’t need to be a genius to understand that I was upset about this. Loneliness with hugging books, and no one to talk to. I talked to myself out loud, as strange as it may sound.
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> my mother liked to criticize me even when i showed that it hurt me. and when i started getting older i just closed in on myself. and with each passing year i wanted to live less and less. criticism from loved ones breaks you. especially when there is no one around to say warm words to me. i don’t remember any warm moments from my childhood. only my tears.

I will just say that this is exactly what an angel’s life would sound like.

Edit: And even if not, it’s also super cool!

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**Author:** ![TerraInfinitia22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9f8e36/32.png) [@TerraInfinitia22](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/TerraInfinitia22)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/my-insights-about-tao-and-firstborn-evil/2152/70 "2024-07-11T14:29:45Z")

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I will try and write in lyrics style…

There is a version, two -  
Traditional one  
And Simplified Chinese.

And our dear friend  
GoldenRTriangle said  
There is a translation team

As well.

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