# Message From Jesus

**URL:** <https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370>\
**Category:** Spiritual & Metaphysical Matters\
**Created:** [July 26, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370 "2023-07-26T09:29:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:42am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/444 "2023-10-21T07:42:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Ra:
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> I am Ra. This is correct. Nearly all positive channels and groups may be lessened in their positivity, or rendered quite useless, by what we may call the temptations offered by the fourth-density negative thought-forms. They may suggest many distortions towards specific information, towards the aggrandizement of the self, towards the flowering of the organization in some political, social, or fiscal way.
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> These distortions remove the focus from the One Infinite Source of love and light, of which we are all messengers, humble and knowing that we, of ourselves, are but the tiniest portion of the Creator, a small part of a magnificent entirety of infinite intelligence.

I think if I remember correctly, the Vatican has the largest real estate portfolio in the world…

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:58am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/445 "2023-10-21T07:58:26Z")

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And of course the gem of gems:

> [@Matthew 7:16](#):
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> By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/446 "2023-10-25T20:02:28Z")

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An ex-christian arrived at the same conclusion as what’s Ra have to say about “Ten Commandment”.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/1/19acdf938b37319c1267ae9e3176d0cf37c7152e.jpeg "Deconstructing the Ten Commandments | A Perfect Moral Law?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80p3jI1PD3k)

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**Post date:** [November 23, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/447 "2023-11-23T13:43:22Z")

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Yeah

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**Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 6:05am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/448 "2023-11-26T06:05:13Z")

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> [@Passer-by](#):
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> One lingering mystery, where’s the mention of reincarnation?

> [@Patrick](#):
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> All mentions of reincarnation were removed by the council of nicaea.

I found a better explanation on Quo’s session.

> The common belief system at that time for many Jewish entities, as well as for the many other religious groups that populated that area at that time, was in reincarnation. The difficulty with a belief in reincarnation, if you are looking at that belief from the standpoint of one who wishes to get the attention of a populace, is that if an entity believes absolutely that he is part of a soul stream that will incarnate many times, then that entity is not particularly concerned with whether or not he is virtuous in this life because he assumes that he shall have another chance to make things right in his next incarnation.
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> Therefore, the concern of teachers was to focus the student on this life and the behavior that was required in order to create a shift in consciousness from the old ways of doing things to the new way of doing things.
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> For the one known as Jesus, the old way of doing things was the way of the world. The old way was the way of money, power and influence. The one known as Jesus was suggesting that it was time for people to wake up, to turn from their worldly ways and release their concepts of the importance of money, power and influence.
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> The one known as Jesus had another kingdom in mind than the kingdom of the world. He called that the kingdom of heaven. He was interested in turning people’s minds from the world to heaven, from fear to love.  
> – Quo April 16th, 2006

Note: Majority of Judaism followers today do and still believe in reincarnation.  
Jesus never explicitly denied the existence of ‘soul reincarnation’, he was just not focusing on it, he ask people to focus on this life.

Quote taken from:

> **[April 16, 2006 - Sunday meditation - L/L Research](https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2006/0416)**
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> Jim: “Q’uo, many New Age seekers and fundamentalist Christians believe there will soon be a rapture or ascension in which the true believers or chosen people will be whisked away by UFOs or angels, leaving the rest of humanity to suffer the...

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/449 "2023-11-28T08:34:47Z")

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So what did Paul teach that deviated from what Jesus taught?

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/450 "2023-11-28T11:55:29Z")

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One prominent thing comes to mind, Jesus died for “our sins”?

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**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/451 "2023-11-30T12:55:32Z")

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I stumble upon this video from Aaron on why Paul’s view of “Jesus died for our sins” is truly insane! Born into devout christian family as son of a priest it’s quite amazing how Aaron managed to turned his spiritual view around.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/d/d54537598f8987237fcd5b654ed238934c7f52a6.jpeg "God Didn't Kill Jesus, We Did | Aaron Abke") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p45D7zrZppk)

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/452 "2023-12-01T04:42:00Z")

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> [@Quid](#):
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> I stumble upon this video from Aaron on why Paul’s view of “Jesus died for our sins” is truly insane!

The Ra material was my initial panacea to the insanity. 😝🥳

This is also addressed in the book I shared - Life in the World Unseen by Anthony Borgia. It’s a total invention inserted into the New Testament.

 ![Screenshot_20230914_234838_Chrome](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/6/67282387aa37fc679da57a78487b20ca5d8eb98c.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 6:18am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/453 "2023-12-01T06:18:02Z")

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I was looking back in history when  
Pluto goes into Aquarius about the  
time Neptune breaks into Aries.  
May 4, 60 CE (death of Paul, Peter, James)  
May 7, 551 CE(Petra is sacked by Byzantines)  
May 8, 1042 CE(St Edward the confessor)  
Dec 23, 1534 AD(Henry VIII church of England)  
Jan 27, 2026 AD(Evidence of Flying Spaghetti)

My curiousity is about this idea  
that for about 10 years Neptune  
is Square the Gemini/Sag axis,  
advantage Water, then it busts  
out, advantage Fire. Then for  
about 10 years, themes emerge.  
(It seems like the old Pharo pattern,  
Government distortions for power  
over the people, or not.

To me a take-away might be the idea  
of personal sovereignty. Rely upon  
your concept of one infinite creator,  
(and celebrate with noodles.)

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 7:01am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/454 "2023-12-20T07:01:02Z")

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Hello brothers and sisters, I was directed to this channeling recently, titled Christ’s Letters. I thought I might have seen them referenced in this voluminous and insightful thread on the Message from Jesus, though I don’t believe they were.

The letters purport to be channelled through an anonymous instrument, by means of the social memory complex that formed as Jesus all those years ago. The entity seemed to speak in 4th person at times, indicating what i believe would be congruent with the now graduated consciousness of Jesus working in 5d. Much of what was said seemed to echo Ra’s discussion of Jesus, though with a more human quality. Won’t offer much opinion on the content at this time, but for those with the time to listen to the series I would be interested in your impressions. Best wishes, this is my first post in the forum.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/7/7856a5b6fc4ad12dbb4f7d9e0e44df3659d4da48.jpeg "Christ's Letters - Letter 1 of 9") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wnLPc2WDZg)

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/455 "2024-01-28T13:26:59Z")

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Here’s a short little video that succintly explains many topics in this thread. While I come from a zen perspective, and he comes from an Advaita Vedanta perspective, it’s pretty much the same.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/5/5e3a681c74af3a522877d91087e01fedca57b080.jpeg "The Stupidity of EGO Exposed in the GREATEST Spiritual Story Ever Told") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaUSfWJdHz4)

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 12:50am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/456 "2024-03-06T00:50:54Z")

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I found these letters several years ago, and I though they were helpful. I’d say they’re worth a read, or you can listen on YouTube.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/457 "2024-03-21T17:10:24Z")

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Quo mentioned Jesus was trained in the Essenes mystical way during his teenage/childhood.

> It began in the mysticism of the Essenes. The one known as Jesus the Christ was trained and trained in the Essene way as well as in the scholarship of Jewish religion.  
> – Quo, Feb 18th 2008

Aaron discussed the proof of it here..

# The Proof that Jesus was an Essene

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/1/1ab831c364674ad4560de2bb35ff3f955a3d8735.jpeg "The Proof that Jesus was an Essene | The Way Forward Podcast") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7lSh_O2eZQ)

One thing for sure; Jesus was not a Catholic or a Christian.. 😉

> Jesus asked entities to care for each other and to hold all things in common. There was not in any of his teaching instruction on making a church. Indeed, this entity had no home, and during his peripatetic ministry, he walked on dusty trails with very little of worldly goods at all.
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> In his name, and in his memory, humankind has created a monstrous, rich, arrogant, political organization with many beautiful buildings which reach to the heavens with their spires and their crosses. Yet within them there is no virtue, except in the hearts of those who still seek the infinite Creator and use those sacred spaces to do so.  
> – Quo, Feb 18th 2008

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There’s a sacred rock in the Church of Tabgha,  
on the Sea of Galilee. This is where the loaves  
and fish multiplied to feed the people.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/6/6acd4f7b3159f82b79e2b69e837e1ee89073277f.jpeg)

There are a series of heart shape stones  
leading from the sea to the church.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/f/f4811d2ec5a71d4e3e69d693726e90b17e51f63f.jpeg)

You can feed a hungry cat some  
fish of St.Peter not far away.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/7/740a60b526cbd9a8ab2fe820c063fa0a90509d15.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2024, 6:36am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370/459 "2024-03-23T06:36:50Z")

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This reminds me of Mary’s house in Nazareth.

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/4/45cedc6ff733d55643eeed18253f9af23bbfe46a.jpeg)

And thinking about that, reminded me of a song.

This is a lyric improv for session 88, which then  
might tie back to the discussion, or not.

TRUTH TO SEEK  
(Song beat similar to  
Paul McCarthy, Let It Be)

Long before this day,  
before known history,  
there was a race,  
that understood;  
realized timeless wisdom,  
truth to seek.

And called to help  
from darkness,  
they shared their light  
in ancient language speak,  
to share timeless wisdom,  
truth to seek.

Truth to seek, truth to seek,  
truth to seek, truth to seek.  
Sharing timeless wisdom  
truth to seek.

Yet over time  
that light grew fainter,  
lost from teaching  
most to see,  
old words fell forgotten,  
truth to seek.

And then some  
wandered careful,  
and they found  
that ancient light to see,  
wisdom rediscovered,  
truth to seek.

Truth to seek, truth to seek,  
truth to seek, truth to seek.  
wisdom rediscovered,  
truth to seek.

There is a path recorded,  
to learn this light  
that shines within,  
shinning forth the hidden,  
truth to seek.

This light embodied helpful,  
supports the lives  
of those that seek,  
realize timeless wisdom,  
truth to seek.

Truth to seek, truth to seek,  
truth to seek, truth to seek.  
realize timeless wisdom,  
truth to seek.

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> [@Quid](#):
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> It began in the mysticism of the Essenes.

With the emphasis on began, because they were nearest. The four major Jewish sects known to flourish in the Holy Land at the beginning of the first century were the Sadducees, the Pharisees, the Zealots and the Essenes.

The Pharisees were the money crowd. The Sadducees were the party of high priests, aristocratic families, and merchants - the wealthier elements of the population. I can only assume the Zealots behaved in such a manner, as the word has survived today. 😝

And the Essenes were generally a peaceful sect, although they also had their schisms.

I wouldn’t say Jesus was an Essene, I would simply say the Essenes gave him his first introduction into mysticism, which served as the impetus for him to travel to the Far East.

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I am re-reading , for an Nth time, Autobiography of a Yogi because I love Parramahansa Yogananda , and there are often quotes by Sri Yukteswar of Jesus, being named as one of the Rishis.

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> [@flofrog](#):
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> ften quotes by Sri Yukteswar of Jesu

Very interesting. I have never read that book, even though it’s so often mentioned in these circles. Maybe it’s time to read it. I’ve just started reading The Interior Castle by Saint Teresa. I’m very curious what this “elder race” member has to say, who was eligible for graduation at the end of the 2nd cycle.

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Perhaps now is time ☺

You might find it so peaceful and hilarious at times as Yogananda had a great sense of humility and humor… I mean learning humility at first, quite funny !!!

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