# Message From Jesus

**URL:** <https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370>\
**Category:** Spiritual & Metaphysical Matters\
**Created:** [July 26, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/message-from-jesus/1370 "2023-07-26T09:29:28Z")\
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A video containing illustration of Jesus travel to Egypt, India and how his teachings transformed into a religion by Roman Emperor.

# The Lost Chronicles Of Jesus Christ

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/a/a2053478c253e0ec0246432c7a63b6d92cbf7a1d.jpeg "Yeshua: The Lost Chronicles Of Jesus Christ | Astral Legends") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQMJWMNBoX8)

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I feel they could have left out the “extra-terrestrial hybrid with connections to the Annunaki”… 🙄

Because once again he’s painted as “other than our other selves” as Ra would say.

He simply achieved union with God, as hundreds before him and hundreds after him did.

The elder race members (Teresa of Avila, saint Augustine and saint Francis of Asisi…among others…) achieved this at the end of the 2nd cycle, roughly 23 000 years before Jesus…

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The big deception is exactly this, creating the impression that he was somehow unique and special, which this video perpetuates in a way, robbing people of the realisation that this experience (union with God) is possible for them too.

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> [@Passer-by](#):
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> I feel they could have left out the “extra-terrestrial hybrid with connections to the Annunaki”

I honestly laughed when they mentioned this too… 😆  
But I like the “more middle eastern look” of Jesus, totally transformed my childhood indoctrination imagery of pale skinned and blue eyed Jesus.

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> [@Quid](#):
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> But I like the “more middle eastern look” of Jesus, totally transformed my childhood indoctrination imagery of pale skinned and blue eyed Jesus.

Ah yes, absolutely! 🙂

A wonderful book on the Egyptian initiation and what it entailed, is this one:

> **[Initiation by Haich, Elisabeth](https://www.amazon.com/Initiation-Elisabeth-Haich/dp/0943358507)**
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> Initiation \[Haich, Elisabeth\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Initiation

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One thing in the video that ‘did’ catch my eye was Jesus being referred to as “The Egyptian”, because many, many, many moons ago I read a…strange…and…wonderful…book, and in the book two “past” earthlings who are now in “higher realms” are still referred to as “the Egyptian” and “the Chaldean”.

I always kind of assumed that Jesus must have been “the Chaldean”… because Chaldeans were Aramaic-speaking people (Jesus’ mother tongue), but now I’m thinking he may have been “the Egyptian”…

It’s just a strange coincidence, that’s all…

Here’s the book:

> **[Life in the World Unseen by Anthony Borgia](https://www.amazon.com/Life-World-Unseen-Anthony-Borgia/dp/8119207521)**
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> Life in the World Unseen \[Anthony Borgia, Zinc Read\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Life in the World Unseen

> [@Life in the World Unseen](#):
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> I truly believe that the Chaldean is the merriest soul in the whole of the spirit realms. I mention this specifically because there would seem to be an idea in some minds that the higher one’s spiritual status becomes, the more serious one has to be. Such a notion is entirely false.
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> The reverse is the truth. Light hearted merriment that comes truly from the heart, that hurts no one and is directed against no one to their detriment, but that is indulged in for the sake of making others merry, such merriment is welcomed and encouraged in the spirit world.
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> There is no inscription: ‘Abandon all laughter, ye who enter here.’ written over the portals of these realms! To suggest that the greater the spirituality the grimmer one must look is altogether a horrible notion, and recalls too much the sanctimoniousness of some breeds of earthly religious piety. We know when to laugh and how to laugh, and we do so.
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> We do not like mournful countenances with no mirthfulness behind them. So that when I tell you that our distinguished guest, the Chaldean, so elevated our minds with his gaiety - and he was very ably assisted, one might say aided and abetted, by the kindly Egyptian - you must know that he lost none of the grand dignity and stateliness of his high station.

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It can be said that Jesus had a colossal experience of what is called “cosmic consciousness”.

In the book Cosmic Consciousness by Richard Maurice Bucke, such an experience is described thusly:

> [@Cosmic Consciousness - Richard Maurice Bucke](#):
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> It was in the early spring, at the beginning of his thirty-sixth year. He and two friends had spent the evening reading Wordsworth, Shelley, Keats, Browning, and especially Whitman.
> 
> They parted at midnight, and he had a long drive in a hansom (it was in an English city). His mind, deeply under the influence of the ideas, images and emotions called up by the reading and talk of the evening, was calm and peaceful. He was in a state of quiet, almost passive enjoyment.
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> All at once, without warning of any kind, he found himself wrapped around as it were by a flame-colored cloud. For an instant he thought of fire, some sudden conflagration in the great city; the next, he knew that the light was within himself.
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> Directly afterwards came upon him a sense of exultation, of immense joyousness accompanied or immediately followed by an intellectual illumination quite impossible to describe.
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> Into his brain streamed one momentary lightning-flash of the Brahmic Splendor which has ever since lightened his life; upon his heart fell one drop of Brahmic Bliss, leaving thenceforward for always an aftertaste of heaven.
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> Among other things he did not come to believe, he saw and knew that the Cosmos is not dead matter but a living Presence, that the soul of man is immortal, that the universe is so built and ordered that without any peradventure all things work together for the good of each and all, that the foundation principle of the world is what we call love and that the happiness of every one is in the long run absolutely certain.
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> He claims that he learned more within the few seconds during which the illumination lasted than in previous months or even years of study, and that he learned much that no study could ever have taught.

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> [@Passer-by](#):
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> The big deception is exactly this, creating the impression that he was somehow unique and special,

Jesus was unique and special just like any entity (you, me, anyone) is unique and special.  
The ‘side effect’ of ‘pedestalizing’ is that one shall have the needs to feel superior to others or see others as inferior to balanced it out.  
By ‘pedestalizing’ it means seeing Jesus (or any other concept which the entity has identified with) as ‘superior’.  
This then formed a ‘hierarchy’ of superiority (and inferiority).  
And such is how “Service To Self” tried to realize as such hierarchy will be beneficial to create a sense of ‘separation’ between entities.

1. Jesus is superior than me. me #inferior
2. Jesus is my savior/God/Idol. me #assocatiing to something superior / pedestalized
3. As thus I am superior in comparation to those who do not see Jesus as his/her savior. me #superior in order to balanced out the sense of me #inferior on step 1.

The understanding of the above mechanism is beneficial when one faced / encountered somebody with superiority / inferiority complex.

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> [@Quid](#):
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> Jesus was unique and special just like any entity (you, me, anyone) is unique and special.

For sure!

> [@Ra](#):
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> The indigo ray is opened only through considerable discipline and practice largely having to do with acceptance of self, not only as the polarized and balanced self but as the Creator, as an entity of infinite worth. This will begin to activate the indigo ray.

> [@Quid](#):
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> This then formed a ‘hierarchy’ of superiority (and inferiority).

Well the way I see the formation of Christianity and the shenanigans of the Catholic church is very similar to the 5th density entity trying to end the Ra contact.

An immense amount of light came into the planetary sphere, and the darkness got to work. And hierarchy is of course the hallmark of negativity.

Carla called the Ra contact a “blinding cynosure” attracting immediate attention from the dark side, and Jesus would have been the same, becoming a high priority target.

Buddha as well, he had the demon Mara to contend with on a regular basis.

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> [@Matthew 6:25](#):
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> Jesus: “Take no care for the raiment”

![images (2) (9)](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/5/57afee7a9d306be5e6c37c5cca41e4cf1b5ecb2f.jpeg)

🙃

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> [@The Way of Zen - Alan Watts](#):
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> Hindu mythology elaborates the theme of the divine play on a fabulous scale, embracing not only colossal concepts of time and space, but also the widest extremes of pleasure and pain, virtue and depravity.
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> The inmost Self of saint and sage is no less the veiled Godhead than the inmost Self of the debauchee, the coward, the lunatic, and the very demons.
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> The opposites (dvandva) of light and darkness, good and evil, pleasure and pain, are the essential elements of the game, for although the Godhead is identified with Truth (sat), Consciousness (chit), and Bliss (ananda), the dark side of life has its integral part in the game just as every drama must have its villain, to disrupt the status quo, and as the cards must be shuffled, thrown into chaos, in order that there may be a significant development of the play.
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> For Hindu thought there is no Problem of Evil. The conventional, relative world is necessarily a world of opposites. Light is inconceivable apart from darkness; order is meaningless without disorder; and, likewise, up without down, sound without silence, pleasure without pain.
> 
> In the words of Ananda Coomaraswamy:
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> “For anyone who holds that “God made the world,” the question, Why did He permit the existence in it of any evil, or of that Evil One in whom all evil is personified, is altogether meaningless; one might as well enquire why He did not make a world without dimensions or one without temporal succession.”

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Staying on the theme of the opposites…

> [@Ra](#):
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> Even the most unhappy of experiences, shall we say, which seem to occur in the Catalyst of the adept, seen from the viewpoint of the spirit, may, with the discrimination possible in shadow, be worked with until light equaling the light of brightest noon descends upon the adept and positive or service-to-others illumination has occurred.

How will you appreciate and enjoy that moment, without the foregoing suffering to compare it with? It would be completely meaningless.

When Buddha was asked “what is Nirvana?” he answered “the end of suffering”.

Without suffering, there can be no Nirvana (cessation of suffering).

Without dukkha, there can be no sukha.

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> [@Passer-by](#):
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> Well the way I see the formation of Christianity and the shenanigans of the Catholic church is very similar to the 5th density entity trying to end the Ra contact.

> **[Pope Francis Says Yoga Doesn't Lead Us to God - Health & Wellness - News...](https://www.catholic.org/news/health/story.php?id=59107)**
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> New Exercise Movement SoulCore, however, strengthens both body and soul In a recent homily, Pope Francis reminded listeners that practices like yoga aren't capable of opening our hearts up to God. ...

> Pope Francis reminded listeners that practices like yoga aren’t capable of opening our hearts up to God. “You can take a million catechetical courses, a million courses in spirituality, a million courses in yoga, Zen and all these things. But all of this will never be able to give you.freedom”, he explained.

If only he knew what Yeshua did as part of his own spiritual journey 😉

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You know what I sometimes think of…my mind goes all over the show. I truly admire anyone who has awakened in a Catholic “environment”, they did so “in spite of” it, not “because of” it.

But of course they had to become renegades. Meister Eckhart was excommunicated by the Catholic church…

> [@The Golden Age of Zen - C.H. Wu](#):
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> The immense variety of forms taken by thought, experience, worship, moral practice in both Buddhism and Christianity make all comparisons haphazard, and in the end when someone like the late Dr. Suzuki announced a study on Mysticism: Christian and Buddhist it turned out to be, rather practically in fact, a comparison between Meister Eckhart and Zen.
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> To narrow the field in this way is at least relevant, though to take Meister Eckhart as representative of Christian mysticism is hazardous.
> 
> At the same time we must remark that Dr. Suzuki was much too convinced that Eckhart was unusual in his time, and that his statements must have shocked most of his contemporaries.
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> Eckhart’s condemnation was in fact due in some measure to rivalry between Dominicans and Franciscans and his teaching, bold and in some points unable to avoid condemnation, was nevertheless based on St. Thomas to a great extent and belonged to a mystical tradition that was very much alive and was, in fact, the most vital religious force in the Catholicism of his time.
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> Yet to identify Christianity with Eckhart would be completely misleading. That was not what Suzuki intended. He was not comparing the mystical theology of Eckhart with the Buddhist philosophy of the Zen masters, but the experience of Eckhart, ontologically and psychologically, with the experience of the Zen masters. This is a reasonable enterprise, offering some small hope of interesting and valid results.

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And you know what’s also interesting, so you know Teresa of Avila was known for her spontaneous levitation, about 1.5 feet above the ground, sometimes lasting more than an hour…

And when D. T. Suzuki was asked what it was like to have experienced satori (enlightenment), he said “it’s just like everyday ordinary experience but about two inches off the ground”.

And of course, if gravity is diminished for these people, then walking on water is not so unusual. 🙂

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St. Francis of Asisi also levitated. He was often found floating in the air during spiritual ecstasies. Reports from later writers echoed and expanded on these claims, saying that St. Francis would soar to the treetops and sometimes into the sky, where he could barely be seen.

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And Joseph of Cupertino, these people were known as the “flying saints”.

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> [@Ra](#):
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> I am Ra. The metaphysical and physical are inseparable. Thus that of which you spoke which attempts to explain this phenomenon is able to, shall we say, calculate the gravitational force of most objects due to the various physical aspects such as what you know of as mass. However, we felt it was necessary to indicate the corresponding and equally important metaphysical nature of gravity.

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Very well stated! My slant, so to speak, is exactly this. There IS no separation. We create that when we compartmentalise and perpetuate the us’es and them’s.

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The only thing I can say about Christianity as it stands today, and I can only say this in hindsight, because back then as a teenager the only thing I knew was that “I didn’t want to be there”.

Now all these decades later, I know what it was; it felt heavy.

I believe there’s a spiritual principal with these so-called [flying saints](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levitation_of_saints) … and these tales of levitation and “flying” can be found across all the wisdom traditions.

Lieh-tzu (c. 398 B.C.), a famous Daoist, was celebrated for his mysterious power of being able to ride upon the wind. He said “I know not whether the wind was riding on me or I on the wind.”

In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahamsa Yogananda discusses Nagendranath Bhaduri, a saint said to levitate in India.

In the words of G. K. Chesterton; “angels fly because they take themselves lightly”.

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