# Is God the same as the One Infinite Creator?

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**Created:** [December 30, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613 "2022-12-30T21:26:45Z")\
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Is God the same as the One Infinite Creator?

Or is God the Logos of just this Universe?

I believe there are millions of Universes in this Octave.

Perhaps God is the entire Octave, where the Infinite Creator is all Octaves.

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**Author:** ![Patrick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/patrick/32/5_2.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Patrick)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613/2 "2022-12-30T22:11:29Z")

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If you mean the Christian God, then yes that is the One Infinite Creator.

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**Author:** ![tadeus](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/tadeus/32/128_2.png) [@tadeus](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/tadeus)\
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The Christian god is JHWH (Jahwe) and it is an invention to keep the people from the One Infinite Creator (that has no name).

In the vedic writings there are used different names for “god” to show the different aspects that can be seen in the creation.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613/4 "2022-12-31T11:34:30Z")

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I thought of God as a universal Logos. But the One Infinite Creator beyond all Logos.

YHWH is the name that humans gave to God, but I don’t think it has a name either.

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**Author:** ![Patrick](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/patrick/32/5_2.png) [@Patrick](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Patrick)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613/5 "2022-12-31T12:57:37Z")

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“The first known thing in creation is infinity. The infinity is creation. Infinity became aware. Intelligent Infinity became aware of the concept of free will.”

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

“The 1st distortion, free will, finds focus. This is the 2nd distortion the Creative Principle or Love.”

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**Author:** ![Jasn7980](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/jasn7980/32/930_2.png) [@Jasn7980](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Jasn7980)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613/6 "2022-12-31T17:47:33Z")

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Taos is not understood, Taos is not found, Taos can’t be explained… Taos is.

Nothing exist out of infinite creator

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**Author:** ![Quid](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/quid/32/109_2.png) [@Quid](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quid)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613/7 "2022-12-31T17:49:28Z")

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The word “God” has many interpretations, so it’s best to first query what is one’s definition of the word.

However…  
There is a single definition that cannot be mistaken with something else.  
That is “Infinite”, something that is borderless has no limit or boundary in any dimension.  
Once such definition came up then it cannot be mistaken with something else.  
As there could only be one infinite as multiple/many infinite is an impossibility.

For example:  
From Wikipedia; The Hindus defined “Brahman” as:  
The pervasive, **infinite** , eternal truth, consciousness and bliss which does not change, yet is the cause of all changes.  
So yes Brahman is the same as “The One Infinite Creator”.

Yet when one mentioned the word “god” to the Hindus, they will think that it’s an English word of “Deva” (shining beings) and there are many deva (or god); Shiva, Krishna, Vishnu, Ganesha et. al.  
They are finite and not infinite given there are many of them, each have their own unique characteristics. Thus in such understanding the word “god” here is not the same as “One Infinite Creator” or Brahman.  
In Ra/Quo’s lingos such “god” or “deva” in meanings is mapped as “Entity”.  
A “Social Memory Complex” entity perhaps, either 4th, 5th or 6th density entity.

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613/8 "2022-12-31T18:28:04Z")

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The names that the Hindus use are I think more like different aspects of the Infinity though.

It’s interesting as now that I am growing ‘old’ 😂 I am in the impossibility to give Creator a face, an appearance of any sort, while when a child I had this image that I was caressing His face to make Him not be sad… lol, while now and for many years there’s no gender, no appearance, no nothing it’s just… there. that exquisite loving feeling of ocean engulfing.

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> [@flofrog](#):
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> that exquisite loving feeling of ocean engulfing.

I really love how you put that. I’m always looking to deepen the love.

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**Author:** ![Quid](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/quid/32/109_2.png) [@Quid](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quid)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-god-the-same-as-the-one-infinite-creator/613/10 "2022-12-31T21:31:46Z")

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> [@flofrog](#):
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> The names that the Hindus use are I think more like different aspects of the Infinity though.

And so does any other names that used by anyone.  
As infinity, has infinite aspects thus infinite names, if one need to named it using symbolism of sound. Yet every aspect has a boundary, that is used to define the aspect and not the aspect.  
While infinity does not have any boundary.

Interestingly, Christianity labeled such view as “Paganism”, the one that they’re “fighting against”.  
I was once asked “Do you believe Jesus is god?”, which I answered with “Yes, as godly as you and me”. Which then they will try to refute the “you and me are godly” while insisting the exclusiveness of “Jesus is godly”, because seeing that everyone (and everything) are god is a ‘Pagan belief’.

> As you look about you in your daily experience, in the meditative state, look and see the One Creator. Feel, in some essence and some degree, the Creator within yourself seeing itself through your eyes. When you see other entities moving about you, see the Creator. When you look into a mirror, see the Creator.  
> – Quo, January 11th 2020

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Thank you Quid !. I guess we are little Pagans whom I always loved !!

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Yeah…YHVH— יהוה‎  
Jehovah, said Yah-Ho-Vah  
This is but one aspect of the One in the Western Tradition; in esoteric Christianity and not exoteric Christianity.  
Also, YHSVH— י ה ש ו ה (Yehshua, Yehoshua, Yeheshua or Joshua)  
And many, many more including ADNI Adonai

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> [@anon68228247](#):
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> Perhaps God is the entire Octave, where the Infinite Creator is all Octaves.

We wonder on this.. perhaps here/now in this space/time, any “word” is within limitation due to matters like “confaion” and such…

I ask; if no word here/now can describe this wholly, then the essence betwixt the thought and the word is something to observe? correct?

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As for “entity” called “Yahweh” Ra did mentioned them on some occasions.

> **[How Negative Forces Uses 'Fiery Phenomenon' to Fool Ancient Prophets to...](http://lawofonesociety.com/index.php/religion/item/384-how-negative-forces-uses-fiery-phenomenon-to-fool-ancient-prophets-to-portray-them-as-god)**
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> How Negative Forces Uses Fiery Phenomenon to Fool Ancient Prophets to Portray Them as "God"

> **[The Law of One Search Results for ‘yahweh’](https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=yahweh)**
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> Lawofone.info is a website dedicated to the study of the Law of One material channeled by L/L Research in the 1980s.

So does Jesus or Yahshua… (4th density positive entity)

Ra refers to them as “entities” and rarely or never uses the term “god”.  
Thus in such context, the term “god” is not the same as the one infinite creator.

A good additional depiction given by law of one society website editor is as follow.

> The “prophets” (individual or subject), ‘sincerely’ believing that they were actually speaking to, or getting a message directly from a “Loving God”, or to be more precise, from ‘The One Infinite Creator’. This, for the most part, was emphatically not the case.
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> A great example of this type of mind manipulation was the “burning bush”, as witnessed by Moses. It is to be noted that the so-called ‘Ten Commandments’ was passed-on to Moses via this type of ‘thought-form’ manipulative method.
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> Any entities of ‘Positive’ orientation would not use such method due to few reasons, and some of these are mentioned below:
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> 1. No Positive Entity will give any command to control, enslave or to manipulate other Being.
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> 2. With Positive Entities, Freewill of the Contact (Individual/Prophet/Messenger) is extremely paramount.
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> 3. No Positive “God” will tell/instruct/command you to kill, or take the life another living Thing, it’s virtually impossible, unless you’re dealing with a Negative force, who requires, for the most part, perverse of nature, blood and sacrifices of all kinds.
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> 4. The One Infinite Creator is full of Infinite Love, Compassion, Understanding, Peace and Harmony. Negative Entities are basically the total opposite of these.
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> 5. No Positive Entity will think to portray to you (objectively or subjectively) that you’re better than another person (or Entity), good or bad .
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> 6. When dealing with Positive Entities, there’s absolutely no feeling of elitism or the enslavement of other Beings. In Unity there’s no concept of separation .
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> 7. Positive Entities are extremely humble.

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> [@Quid](#):
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> There is a single definition that cannot be mistaken with something else.  
> That is “Infinite”, something that is borderless has no limit or boundary in any dimension.

enjoyed/enjoying, this/that.

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What if our solar system was one cell in our creators infinite body as above so below….it answers all the questions  
In love and light  
Bob

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I pondered the path of Buddhism in this regard, and resolved that likely in a perspective of all as divine, the word god as inseparable in all regards seems to offer  
little utility - hence the conspicuous difference with  
other spiritual practices.

However the practice of  
recognizing another as an infinite creator seems  
to accelerate growth in the law of one.

So this subtle  
difference may distinguish law of one practice from  
Buddhist practice, even though I believe the eight  
fold path perspective offers advantage over others  
in offering more neutral perspectives observing  
creative manifestations with minimal distortions.

I believe Buddhists seem a minority within the  
spiritual world, and law of one seekers an even  
more extreme minority, hence some alienation.

A density challenge may be salt and water,  
how the infinite creator resides in ways that  
foster spiritual experience. It’s easier to  
recognize divinity in higher densities.

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> [@soup](#):
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> I believe Buddhists seem a minority within the spiritual world, and law of one seekers an even more extreme minority, hence some alienation.

I don’t think so, the first time I heard about “reunification with the entire universe” was from a Buddhist. When we talk about “Nirvana” vis-a-vis “Heaven” in Christianity. I was deeply entrenched in Catholicism during that period.  
And when Ra mentioned about 8th density / Octave I instantly recall the conception of “Nirvana” and Dharma Chakra with it’s 8 section. And the number 8, symbolize “infinity” (∞)  
From my personal point of view, Siddhartha is a teacher of Yoga, a sanskrit word for “Unite”. He teaches the way / method for ‘self discovery’ and not ‘what you will discover’ nor “What you must believe”.  
Thus the reason why he never mentioned anything about “God” or “Deva” or any ‘God/Deva/Deity worshipping practice’.

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God or god is just a word, don’t go crazy on a word. It’s a human thing.  
The One, The One Infinite; they’re all just words to describe something that is abstract.

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> [@Dieu9](#):
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> God or god is just a word, don’t go crazy on a word.

Yes of course, that’s why need to deep dive on the actual meaning.  
Word is a symbol, sequence of audio frequency referring to a meaning.  
And then compare whether the meaning is the same.

The word; El, Elohym, Yahweh as written in the Tanakh is referring to a finite entity, based on the description. Israe-El, those who wrestle with El, quite literally a wrestling match. Yahweh, the story is well known and I have quoted above and what Ra (another finite entity) have to say about it. Those hebrew words is then translated to either LORD or God on english bible.

Yet when one uses word to refer towards the infinite, then there will be no mistake as it refer to the only one who has no border. Example of such ancient words are Brahman in Hinduism or Tao in China.

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