# Humility/Meekness and Pride/Entitlement

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**Category:** Confederation Philosophy\
**Created:** [March 20, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/humility-meekness-and-pride-entitlement/912 "2023-03-20T00:19:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quid](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/quid/32/109_2.png) [@Quid](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quid)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/humility-meekness-and-pride-entitlement/912/1 "2023-03-20T00:19:32Z")

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This is among the gem of Quo’s channeling touching the topics of humility vs pride.  
Based on my observation so far; Humility/Meekness is the key characteristic of STO, consequently Pride/Entitlement is the key characteristic of STS.

First about the definition.  
Humility = “meekness or a lack of holding to the self a sense of entitlement or importance.”  
But it is NOT “quality of being low in self-worth or unable to stand up for the self”.

The feeling of “low opinion of self” is actually the trigger for “egotism and pride”, thus humility / meekness is NOT the same as “having low opinion of self”.

As Quo mentioned:

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> It is often thought that humility partakes in a low opinion of the self. However, we do not believe this to be so. If one gazes at the working of the personality shell or ego-self, one can see that if there is a low self-worth, there is also a tendency to respond to this feeling of the lacks of the self by defending against notice of these lacks, or even by creating a persona or mask which compensates for these feelings, thusly resulting in an appearance of egotism or pride.

However humility is NOT necessary to advance spiritually, just like being STO is not necessary to advance spiritually. Advancing spiritually can also be achieved through Pride and choosing the STS path.

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> It is not necessary to be humble in order to advance spiritually. The quality of humility is a quality which is enhanced by the same energies which create of the spiritually mature seeker the awareness that he is the Creator. And while this seems a paradox, the two awarenesses are two sides of one coin.  
> If an entity is aware of the quality of Creator-ness or Creator-hood that he has found at the very center of the depths of his heart, he is aware that this quality of Creator-ness or being part of the creative principle is specifically that which is not of the surface self. True to the task set before him to know the self and accept himself, he will necessarily and automatically have attained a genuine humility. For he has experienced the state of the small “I,” the ego self, becoming transparent before the power of unconditional love as it flows through him.

The awareness of “I am the Creator” is shared between the two opposing path.  
Yet what differentiate STO and STS is how they see the ‘other self’. Do they see the ‘other’ as “also the creator” thus part of “me/us” or they see the ‘other’ as ‘things that must be controlled and be put in order by me/us’.  
Yet STO and STS are actually two side of the same coin. The path of “unifying” or “(continue) separating”.  
As without “separation” the process of “unifying” is not possible to exist.  
Without the “IS NOT” the “IS” cannot be recognized.

The entire dialogue:

> **[April 25, 2009 - Saturday meditation - L/L Research](https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2009/0425)**
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> The question this evening, Q’uo, is concerning humility. We’d like to know if humility is an automatic manifestation of evolution into higher states of consciousness, or if it is a quality which must be consciously cultivated as one progresses along...

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:47am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/humility-meekness-and-pride-entitlement/912/2 "2023-03-20T02:47:12Z")

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Lol, Quid …  
How about this paradox of feeling deep humility and at the same time recognizing the divine sparkle inside , bring whole with Creator or Creathrix, then again at the same time feel deeply humble… how about the complete existence of both, lol ….

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**Author:** ![Quid](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/quid/32/109_2.png) [@Quid](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quid)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/humility-meekness-and-pride-entitlement/912/3 "2023-03-20T13:44:17Z")

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Yes that session also address such inquiry.  
You are divine, yet others are also divine and part of you.  
You will then ponder “how am I best to serve you”, since you are also a part of me.

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> If an entity is aware of the quality of Creator-ness or Creator-hood that he has found at the very center of the depths of his heart, he is aware that this quality of Creator-ness or being part of the creative principle is specifically that which is not of the surface self. True to the task set before him to know the self and accept himself, he will necessarily and automatically have attained a genuine humility. For he has experienced the state of the small “I,” the ego self, becoming transparent before the power of unconditional love as it flows through him.
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> We may say that the more deeply and completely the seeker knows himself, the more humble he becomes. While this is true, it does not infer that the humility comes as a result of seeing the worst of himself and feeling rueful that so many seemingly erroneous qualities exist within him. Rather, humility comes as one is aware more and more of the true worth of the self, for that true worth lies in becoming an ever more well-tuned instrument for the spirit to play.

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/humility-meekness-and-pride-entitlement/912/4 "2023-03-20T14:19:15Z")

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Yes, exactly

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**Author:** ![flofrog](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/flofrog/32/149_2.png) [@flofrog](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/flofrog)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/humility-meekness-and-pride-entitlement/912/5 "2023-03-20T17:43:28Z")

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In fact I find this strange, lovely humility brings such freedom as we feel so connected to everyone else