# 5th Density/Dimension and 4th **URL:** \ **Category:** Strictly Law of One\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843 "2023-03-09T01:49:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1

**Author:** ![AAR](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/aar/32/891_2.png) [@AAR](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/AAR)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843/1 "2023-03-09T01:49:20Z")

So Earth is/has shifted into 4th density. Why do some spiritual types talk about Earth shifting into 5th dimension ??? These are the same people that seem to skip over talk about 4th density/dimension. They say that we are going from 3rd to 5th. Also, I’m assuming density and dimension are kind of used interchangeably??? ---

**Author:** ![Quid](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/quid/32/109_2.png) [@Quid](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quid)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843/2 "2023-03-09T06:56:31Z")

Ra uses density rather than dimension. In meaning density has different meaning to ‘dimension’. Previous thread on the same topic: > [@Question regarding densities and dimensions](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/question-regarding-densities-and-dimensions/482): > > Ra describes that it is their understanding that there are 7 densities all having 7 sub-densities that each individual fractal of infinite consciousness that is us experiences throughout our evolution towards Unity. Ra also states that they come from the 6th dimension, but perhaps they state density - I’ll have to check unless someone can clarify for me - in the the first or second channeling session. I have heard other channeled perspectives stating they come from dimensions as high as 13 and as far as they know from their perspective, after that u can return to Source that is becoming that which we can best describe as Unified-Infinite Intelligence, and possibly this means doing the whole thing over again but possibly as a completely different Universe unlike the Creation we here are experiencing. I know dimensions typically refer to a mathematical/geometrical state of composition and densities are more metaphysical(quantum)/intelligence realms. So finally my question is: what is the relationship between these two frames of reference or are they interchangeable in definition? My lack of understanding stems from the little knowledge I have in this life experience of the mathematical dimensions beyond 4th or possibly 6th if it is as time as an infinite line as a quantum has infinite variations which we can call timelines and the 6th dimension is where all possible quanta are assimilated into a singularity. From there I have no clue or as Ra would say, “Your definition is mostly incorrect.” # The Difference Between Densities and Dimensions [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/bring4th/original/2X/d/d6fe21a22f8eeff3b6e58dc0f6e5f651482cd626.jpeg "The Difference Between Densities and Dimensions (Raise Your Consciousness)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gBCKUNtfs) ---

**Author:** ![anon68228247](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@anon68228247](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/anon68228247)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843/3 "2023-03-09T12:37:30Z")

Bashar has said that the 4th density is the fifth dimension. ---

**Author:** ![up1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@up1](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/up1)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843/4 "2023-03-10T13:35:17Z")

I’m satisfied with my 3rd grade/level of understanding right Now. My mind tends to wander outside the Now when I spend my limited space/time in the past or future, especially when I try to define and explain things I can’t possibly understand at this level. My lesson here Now is always to LOVE One another. Jim Upperpenni ---

**Author:** ![anon68228247](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d78d45/32.png) [@anon68228247](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/anon68228247)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 4:43pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843/5 "2023-03-10T16:43:57Z")

> [@AAR](#): > > So Earth is/has shifted into 4th density. Does this mean we can feel fourth density? Because I have bliss in my heart, and I think it’s that. ---

**Author:** ![up1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@up1](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/up1)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 11:06am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843/6 "2023-03-22T11:06:02Z")

Here’s a Ra quote from season 14.4: “We have never been gone from your fifth dimension and have been working in this last minor cycle to prepare for harvest.“ From researching the science about the fifth dimension, I’ve concluded that this fifth dimension Ra speaks of is outside of our horizontal space/time and exists Now in the time/space perspective. We cannot grasp this dimension from our third level, but if we trust Ra’s words, the fifth dimension seems to be the office from which Ra works with the callings of human Beings. I imagine Ra resides is sixth density but does their work with Earth from their fifth dimension office. ---

**Author:** ![AAR](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/discourse.bring4th.org/aar/32/891_2.png) [@AAR](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/AAR)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/5th-density-dimension-and-4th/843/7 "2023-03-23T14:49:03Z")

Since 4th density is associated with the heart center, I would think that the feeling of bliss would be there. But my understanding of what 4th density if for is living from a heart centered place. Service to others. The true expression of the Law of One.