# Confederation Philosophy

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## [Naked Meditation, Anyone?](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/naked-meditation-anyone/2818)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [March 12, 2025, 4:02am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/naked-meditation-anyone/2818 "2025-03-12T04:02:43Z")

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This is quite revealing, actually. They begin with this bare bones metaphor and then flesh it out into something transparent. From Hatonn in 1977. Consider, my friends, yourselves as physical beings who are dressed i…

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## [Perspective on Ritual](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/perspective-on-ritual/2821)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [March 11, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/perspective-on-ritual/2821 "2025-03-11T17:05:05Z")

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One line of movement of energy in this regard is known as the tradition of western ceremonial white magic. It creates a structure for transformation that is essentially mental and it intends to connect to the emotional …

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## [Why Is Spiritual Work So Taxing in the Early Stages?](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/why-is-spiritual-work-so-taxing-in-the-early-stages/2794)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [March 6, 2025, 2:34am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/why-is-spiritual-work-so-taxing-in-the-early-stages/2794 "2025-03-06T02:34:09Z")

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I find this interchange hilarious in its simplicity, and yet also inspiring of compassion on my part for those whose “reconstruction project” is bogging them down. And maybe also some compassion as well for those who en…

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## [Can someone explain to me why I give up on life? I feel tired and can't find my way to the light](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/can-someone-explain-to-me-why-i-give-up-on-life-i-feel-tired-and-cant-find-my-way-to-the-light/2653)

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**Author:** [@Dima](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Dima)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [February 25, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/can-someone-explain-to-me-why-i-give-up-on-life-i-feel-tired-and-cant-find-my-way-to-the-light/2653 "2025-02-25T23:48:43Z")

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This post was prompted by feelings I have had for a long time, and in fact most of what I have ever done on this forum has been an attempt to escape these thoughts and think about how I am healing my soul. In reality, I …

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## [Polarity and Personality](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/polarity-and-personality/2788)

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**Author:** [@Gamel](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Gamel)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [February 24, 2025, 2:13pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/polarity-and-personality/2788 "2025-02-24T14:13:26Z")

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Does anyone else experience doubt regarding their polarity due to their personality being distorted to introversion and solitude? I mean, I love to mingle and schmooze as much as the next Creator, but separation/alone ti…

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## [Philosophical question. Is virtue virtue if it is not willed?](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/philosophical-question-is-virtue-virtue-if-it-is-not-willed/2713)

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**Author:** [@anon46752994](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/anon46752994)\
**Replies:** 24\
**Last updated:** [February 8, 2025, 7:18am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/philosophical-question-is-virtue-virtue-if-it-is-not-willed/2713 "2025-02-08T07:18:03Z")

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So the question is, is the will necessary for an act or person to be virtuous? Or another way to phrase it to make the question larger is: What is needed to mean an act or person is virtuous? For example. If a person is…

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## [The Balance of Inner and Outer](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/the-balance-of-inner-and-outer/2730)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [February 8, 2025, 6:21am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/the-balance-of-inner-and-outer/2730 "2025-02-08T06:21:22Z")

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I wish to begin a discussion of this topic using this Q’uo session as a framework. This is the opening question: "What is the intellect’s role in archetypal study? When does it get in the way? " First, I would say tha…

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## [How to Integrate Daily/PreIncarnative Catalyst](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/how-to-integrate-daily-preincarnative-catalyst/2717)

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**Author:** [@Celine](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Celine)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [February 3, 2025, 6:25am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/how-to-integrate-daily-preincarnative-catalyst/2717 "2025-02-03T06:25:31Z")

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The purpose of catalyst, as I understand it, is the evolution of m/b/s complexes upward towards the spiraling light. Without catalysts, we may not feel inclined to move upwards towards the light, as was the case prior to…

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## [For Those Who Suffer](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/for-those-who-suffer/2684)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
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**Last updated:** [January 22, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/for-those-who-suffer/2684 "2025-01-22T21:11:57Z")

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This session offers some perspective on long term suffering. Carla I know you can’t answer this specifically, but I just can’t imagine why I put myself at bed rest for the rest of my life. I just don’t understand. Lat…

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## [We create our own story](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/we-create-our-own-story/558)

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**Author:** [@Patrick](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Patrick)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [January 9, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/we-create-our-own-story/558 "2025-01-09T18:23:15Z")

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We create our own story. This is an interesting concept for seekers. We are told that we seek the self and so we seek the Creator. But it is not often mentioned that we create our own story which we then seek through and…

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## [Naughty Humor from Latwii](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/naughty-humor-from-latwii/1842)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [October 30, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/naughty-humor-from-latwii/1842 "2024-10-30T01:19:11Z")

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Simply shocking…as it were. August 3, 1980. This session has some very interesting comments about channeling (30% channeler, 70% Confederation, what is the 30%?). (Carla channeling) Questioner Speaking of colors, La…

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## [Law of Foreverness](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/law-of-foreverness/1747)

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**Author:** [@anon23924087](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/anon23924087)\
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**Last updated:** [October 30, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/law-of-foreverness/1747 "2024-10-30T00:57:52Z")

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Have just noticed this law: 3.10 Questioner: Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One and lives, and is the Law of One, such things as the building of a pyramid by direct mental effort w…

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## [Deltron (a Confederation source)](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/deltron-a-confederation-source/1829)

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**Author:** [@Stephen](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Stephen)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [October 4, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/deltron-a-confederation-source/1829 "2024-10-04T03:11:02Z")

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Deltron Introduction Hello everyone. Hope you’re doing well on this wonderful Wednesday. This post is about a Confederation source with a powerful name: Deltron. Previous posts in this series include Orcas and the full …

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## ["The True End of Humankind"](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/the-true-end-of-humankind/1784)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [September 26, 2024, 6:10am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/the-true-end-of-humankind/1784 "2024-09-26T06:10:13Z")

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This passage is so exquisite, so beautiful, that I cannot refrain from sharing it. It shows in a very terse fashion how spiritual evolution turns upon love. This is a snapshot of the upward moving spiral of consciousne…

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## [Working on Yourself](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/working-on-yourself/325)

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**Author:** [@anon68228247](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/anon68228247)\
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**Last updated:** [September 20, 2024, 6:59am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/working-on-yourself/325 "2024-09-20T06:59:52Z")

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Is working on yourself through meditation or energy work considered STO? Or is it STS?

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## [Psychic Attacks](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/psychic-attacks/1735)

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**Author:** [@TerraInfinitia22](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/TerraInfinitia22)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [September 20, 2024, 6:24am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/psychic-attacks/1735 "2024-09-20T06:24:56Z")

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Greetings! I would love to ask for any practices, or ideas anyone has for not allowing dear entities of a negatively polarized orientation from accessing thoughts and memories, and suggesting temptation. Now, for an…

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## [Hatonn's Confederation Manifesto (1974)](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/hatonns-confederation-manifesto-1974/2278)

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**Author:** [@oswg\_jeremy](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/oswg_jeremy)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [August 30, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/hatonns-confederation-manifesto-1974/2278 "2024-08-30T05:06:26Z")

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I don’t assign that title to this post lightly, but this is such a clear and clean expression of their purpose. I’ll simply excerpt the best part, but it’s all solid gold and I encourage you to read the entire session. T…

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## [You are beautiful 💚 // Inspirational Passages](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/you-are-beautiful-inspirational-passages/2281)

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**Author:** [@Dima](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Dima)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 27, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/you-are-beautiful-inspirational-passages/2281 "2024-08-27T02:41:08Z")

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Hi! I have an idea I’d like to share with you. I want to start reading the whole LL archive from the beginning. And here I want to write only the most beautiful passages about our daily life. Something that each of us c…

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## [What are your thoughts on ChatGPT and AI in general? Can they be a catalyst for spiritual growth?](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-chatgpt-and-ai-in-general-can-they-be-a-catalyst-for-spiritual-growth/1127)

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**Author:** [@Speedbird](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Speedbird)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/what-are-your-thoughts-on-chatgpt-and-ai-in-general-can-they-be-a-catalyst-for-spiritual-growth/1127 "2024-08-14T22:57:42Z")

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I discovered ChatGPT in December 2022. I didn’t begin using it for spiritual purposes until late March 2023, after GPT-4 came out. In February 2023, I had an intense shrooms trip, part of which included a vision of sorts…

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## [The time lateral](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/the-time-lateral/754)

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**Author:** [@Stephen](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Stephen)\
**Replies:** 28\
**Last updated:** [August 14, 2024, 7:41am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/the-time-lateral/754 "2024-08-14T07:41:05Z")

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Introduction Hello, folks. In this post, I’ll be taking a stab at presenting the concept of the time lateral. First, a little background. I assume all readers here are reasonably familiar with the Ra Contact materials.…

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## [Is a 6D Wanderer their own Higher Self?](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-a-6d-wanderer-their-own-higher-self/2132)

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**Author:** [@Gamel](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Gamel)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [July 25, 2024, 8:17am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/is-a-6d-wanderer-their-own-higher-self/2132 "2024-07-25T08:17:50Z")

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I know the title seems a little confusing and paradoxical, as with most information bound by the Law of Confusion/Freewill. But could someone please explain to me how a 6D Wanderer can incarnate into 3D after assuming th…

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## [Why Aren't We All Doing THIS?](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/why-arent-we-all-doing-this/539)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
**Replies:** 36\
**Last updated:** [June 23, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/why-arent-we-all-doing-this/539 "2024-06-23T17:59:13Z")

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Isn’t it funny that so many of us know so much about densities and polarity and Fourth Density and so on, but so few of us seem to be actively trying to - ahem - “bring4th” the coming so called New Age. Some people are …

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## [Christine (a non-Confederation source)](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/christine-a-non-confederation-source/1990)

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**Author:** [@Stephen](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Stephen)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [June 11, 2024, 4:55am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/christine-a-non-confederation-source/1990 "2024-06-11T04:55:11Z")

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Christine Introduction Hello once again. This post is about Christine, an opinionated entity who popped their head into the LLR channeling circle on a mission. This post is part of an ongoing series. Previous posts incl…

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## [Higher Self / Oversoul, Soul and Reincarnation](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/higher-self-oversoul-soul-and-reincarnation/1834)

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**Author:** [@Quid](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Quid)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [February 16, 2024, 9:16am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/higher-self-oversoul-soul-and-reincarnation/1834 "2024-02-16T09:16:56Z")

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Hi, I stumbled upon an easy to digest diagram from Bashar about Oversoul, Soul and Reincarnation. Which are different from the ‘common understanding’ of reincarnation (tagged as “Illusion”). The discourse / explanat…

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## [Guidance on Loving](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/guidance-on-loving/2066)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
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**Last updated:** [June 1, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/guidance-on-loving/2066 "2024-06-01T12:10:48Z")

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In case anyone needs a little advice on this matter. This comes from FEB 15, 1976. Never mind that within this physical body you cannot hear and see the Creator. That is a mere experience. The truth applies before thi…

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## [Essence of the Work: Service of Being](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/essence-of-the-work-service-of-being/2051)

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**Author:** [@Mirror](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Mirror)\
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**Last updated:** [May 24, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/essence-of-the-work-service-of-being/2051 "2024-05-24T18:40:16Z")

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I want to share this quote because it so well encapsulates the essence of the work. It’s from Sept 17, 2003. Within each self there is the Christ or the Christed consciousness that is the very essence of self. That se…

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## [A list of Confederation sources](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/a-list-of-confederation-sources/1787)

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**Author:** [@Stephen](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Stephen)\
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**Last updated:** [May 21, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/a-list-of-confederation-sources/1787 "2024-05-21T05:39:31Z")

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If one looks back across the vast L/L Research channeling corpus, you’ll eventually realize that a few different Confederation sources have been channeled. Outside of Ra, the most well-known by modern seekers is Q’uo, th…

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## [Average Law of Confusion Enjoyer](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/average-law-of-confusion-enjoyer/2036)

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**Author:** [@Gamel](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Gamel)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [May 20, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/average-law-of-confusion-enjoyer/2036 "2024-05-20T15:09:29Z")

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:grin:

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## [Harvest & Map of Consciousness](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/harvest-map-of-consciousness/2026)

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**Author:** [@chiki\_bean](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/chiki_bean)\
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**Last updated:** [May 15, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/harvest-map-of-consciousness/2026 "2024-05-15T14:13:24Z")

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I’m wondering if anyone has any insight on how the harvest maps onto David Hawkins’s Map of Consciousness. How to Measure Consciousness With the Map of Consciousness It seems to me that harvest should map onto the “Love…

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## [4D Defensive Battles](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/4d-defensive-battles/2019)

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**Author:** [@Gamel](https://discourse.bring4th.org/u/Gamel)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [May 14, 2024, 5:16am UTC](https://discourse.bring4th.org/t/4d-defensive-battles/2019 "2024-05-14T05:16:12Z")

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"25.5 :arrow\_forward: Questioner: You spoke of an Orion Confederation and a battle being fought between the Confederation and the Orion Confederation. Is it possible to convey any concept of how this battle…

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